Again I think this is a myth. I cant really remember him coming on and having a massive impact very often, whereas when he was starting games consecutively last season he very much was having a massive impact. Totally agree on Buckley. As much as I was happy for him as a young Academy lad scoring on Saturday, I have only seen evidence to suggest that he is quite a way off our first team.

He did get a run last season and he was outstanding so im not sure that is a fair comment at all. He in that last 10/12 games regularly was a key player for us. He this season was undeservedly dropped at the start of the season despite this, with Mowbrays favourite Armstrong preferred. He has started 3 games, all in isolation, all away from home in difficult games.

No, you drop Bennett who contrary to what you keep saying did not do a Makelele like job on Gallagher, and play our best central midfielder Travis with another, Downing, Johnson or at a push Evans. The fact that you havent taken that as the joke it clearly was is funnier than the actual joke.

Would bring in Rothwell for Armstrong and Graham for Gallagher. And make sure Dack is back in his natural position.

Travis can match Bennetts energy and accompany it with ability but he was dropped as a result. Net effect of a weird blind spot and overriding loyalty was another penalty conceded. In regards to Mowbray as a manager, I dont doubt the general issues that people have regarding his management as I have the same. I just dont think its fair and indeed tarnishes any other opinions when people refuse to credit him for a decision he actually did get right in favour of focusing solely on a decision he may or was going to (but didnt) make in a different scenario.

To be fair, Mowbrays substitutions or selections have often warranted the criticism they have got. Only last week, his strange decision to start Bennett in central midfield who obviously conceded another penalty was one thing, but his inactivity in terms of not utilising the experience we had on the bench that the team was crying out for was stupidity. This week however, I think its totally unfair to focus solely on the subs he would have made in a different situation (if they didnt score) and as a result totally dismissing the fact that as the game did unravel, he did make the sub that won us the game, as you personally do give credit for. We can do that without changing your overall opinion of whether we are best placed to progress under his management, which again I dont think we are. As a side note, he is bleating on again about the performances against the likes of Luton in the Lancashire Telegraph today as if they warranted more points than what we got. Just opening old wounds with that because we didnt deserve anything, we were shite.

Why sadly regarding Stoke? The more clubs in disarray, the better for us surely.

Stoke can do miles better than hasbeen no marks like Pardew or O'Neill whose day was with Celtic close to 2 decades ago.

Was you not quite scathing of Leeds decision to sack Heckingbottom despite piss poor results at Leeds before appointing Bielsa?

To be fair, I dont think anyone has "repositioned" themselves, indeed people including chaddy have said that they are still of the opinion that we need a change of manager.

Do you give any credit to Mowbray for, regardless of what subs he would have made had the score stayed goalless, bringing on the man who got the winner?

The thing is, youve gone out of your way to discredit the manager on the rare recent example when he actually deserves a bit of praise. Even @Paul Mani who you are responded too has said in the post you are quoting that he doesnt think that Mowbray is the man to take us forward. I even managed to get out of @chaddyrovers that his opinion of wanting the manager replaced from last week hasnt changed on the back of one win. I have been very critical of Mowbray myself. What sub Mowbray was initially planning on making is totally irrelevant. No one is saying that bringing on Buckley proves that he has learnt or that he is the man to take us forward, or that he is going to be "let off the hook again." When I saw the sub being made, Buckley who has always looked a little out of place playing Championship football for Downing, I was a bit underwhelmed by it. But ultimately, the sub he did make yesterday did work and did help to get us the win. Do I think that this sub is the bringing of a new dawn? No I certainly do not. Has it changed by mindset on Mowbrays ability to take us where we want to go? No. But is it fair to discredit successful decisions based on decisions he perhaps would have made had a different situation arisen, ie had goals happened or not happened? Definitely not.

Whilst I agree with the notion that Mowbray is overly conservative at times, that he has favourites who play undeservedly and those who dont get the chances they deserve etc, again some of these individual cases are myths. Travis got into the team, and we all thought that as soon as Smallwoods suspension had ended, he would return to the bench. Since, Travis has been a regular and Smallwood cannot get into the squad. Holtby took longer than I'd like to be given his first start, but since hes had it, he has since been injured and as soon as he has got back to fitness, he started again. And Adarabioyo was very good yesterday, but up until then he has looked quite flimsy IMO, would like to see him next to Lenihan with Williams and Nyambe at full back. No way will Bennett ever be squeezed out under Mowbray, he cannot bear to leave him out for one single game regardless of performance and regardless of what position he has to squeeze him into, he is and will forever be first name on the team sheet.

He was run ragged. He is quite simply not good enough yet is clearly undroppable.

Bennett wasnt solid, everything came down his side with Sheffield Wednesday realising where we are weak. With Cunningham out for the season, when Lenihan returns our defence must be Nyambe, Lenihan, Adarabioyo and Williams up until January.

Was a general question, I am enjoying the win too. So you are still of the opinion that Mowbray needs to go? I dont think Dack playing further back is good for the team either, he doesnt affect games from there.

Obviously a goal has an impact on what subs a manager will make though. Subs that the manager would have hypothetically made in alternative scenarios are irrelevant, he didnt bring on Evans, he changed to Buckley and he got the winner. It was done to change the game positively following the goal.

Whether it was lucky or not, and whether the goal changed the decision or not, you cant refuse to give him credit for decisions that worked out. It is the same as when he started playing Travis and it was put down by some as if Mowbray had no choice after Smallwoods suspension, but he did and he chose to continue with Travis. There are things even about today that you can question the manager about, Bennetts continued selection, Mowbrays inability to sign a competent keeper leading to another mistake, and Armstrongs repeated selection being 3 things. But even if it was prompted by the Sheffield Wednesday goal, he then obviously changed his sub to try and force the issue and it paid off. I dont even think Mowbray is the correct man to take us forward either, but if you cant credit him for decisions that have been proved right, then you arent being fair. You also said that Buckley (and Adarabioyo) will soon be dropped, but Buckley didnt even start so how can he be? I still wouldnt start him, he still looks a bit off, and his goal had an element of fortune, as happy as I was for him.

Walton mistake every day of the week. Mowbray in or out as it stands tonight? Still out for me, as much as I enjoyed tonight. Would you agree that Dack deeper doesnt work?

What a brilliant end to a game, first half was yet again incredibly boring, felt like watching paint dry, second half we did create a few more chances, not the best performance by a long way but enjoyed finally getting a late win and a sign of some spirit. Walton again with another huge error leading to a goal, not up to it sadly, a very poor signing. Made a good save at the end to be fair but still, 3 major errors in 4 games is unacceptable. Bennett absolute crap yet again, must have naked pictures of Mowbray, its the only explanation for his constant selection when he is so consistently poor wherever he is played. Their threat was basically solely coming down his side. Adarabioyo with a very good display, great header for the goal (although Westwood was at fault with some terrible positioning) but in general he was far more dominant than he has been previously. Nyambe was decent too although as we know, hes not a centre back, and Williams was fine at left back. When Lenihan returns, our back 4 should be Nyambe, Adarabioyo, Lenihan and Williams. No room for the managers favourite. Travis was decent again, good at what he does, Downing very composed and picks the right passes more often than not but I do feel he needs to stamp his authority on games more in terms of adding a goal threat or chipping in with more assists. The formation didnt work because it means Dack is far too deep to be at his best, and he was rather quiet. Holtby was decent, not as good as v Huddersfield but played the pass of the match to Gallagher and has to play every week. Armstrong again flatters to deceive in the main and should have scored. Gallagher I thought was better than usual, few bits of good hold up, great ball to Armstrong across the goal, and decent enough header in the first half. Doesnt really offer much goal threat though. (apart from last week of course) Subs wise, Graham looked a little rusty, he needs regular games to be at his best, but he knows what he is doing and undoubtedly gives us more of a threat than Gallagher. Rothwell made a big impact and nearly scored with a header, and Buckley didnt do much bar of course get a very lucky winner! So a big contribution.

You have to say that as many predicted, that Parker and Woodgate are 2 managerial risks that have backfired with both out of their depth.

This desperation to shove Bennett into whatever position possible is absolutely scandalous, hes absolute shite! Glad to see Holtby back though.

Out of interest, if Rovers decided to make tickets for any games next season £100 but announced as such early in the summer, would this be acceptable?

Nice of them to admit that they are going to rip off our fans and focus purely on punishing away fans in advance, I must say. As @MCMC1875 suggests, say Rovers state in pre-season that they will charge £100 or £200 for certain games, would that still be commendable in your eyes due to it being honest and announced early?

If you though he was that good you wouldnt have dropped him from your team. Stop being so patronising, I watched the game once which was more than enough, the main takeaway from his performance was yet another penalty given away. He is not good enough, hes a liability that the manager has an unhealthy blind spot towards. Sticking him in midfield and dropping Travis to squeeze him in was stupid. You keep saying this about Rothwell but he hasnt played successive games! He had a run in the side at the end of last season, did very well, yet was predictably and undeservedly dropped at the start of this season. He has been given isolated starts against 2nd, 7th and 8th away from home then instantly dropped straight after. Its funny how a player isnt half as influential when he is dropped for no reason. My main point was that Buckley isnt ready for our first team. Every time hes played hes looked nowhere nesr ready. Chapman and Rankin Costello have been scoring for the Under 23s, and I liked Chapman last time he was here and my main worry was injuries which barring a head knock seems to be much less of a problem at the moment. I dont see the point in signing him and giving him zero chances in the first team.