roversfan99

Thats one hell of a desperate assumption to justify the managers position in absence of any reasoning to suggest that we are progressing under him, purely based on thoeretical fear.

The Irish bit was a joke. At his best he was on his day a good Championship centre back, albeit rather error prone, culminating in costing his side the Play Off Final a few years back. Never very fast and with a year out the game injured, it would be a desperate signing. Ayala was of a higher standard, had less time off, is younger and is still not the answer due to lack of reliability.

I think a 34 year old Richard Keogh would be beyond a desperate act to put a sticker over our defence. Irish or not.

I dont understand what style he has in mind, he mentioned being reluctant to go direct but we dont have a competent target man anyway.

No one to our knowledge. There are the usual suspects, Pearson, Howe, Hughes, Wagner, Cowley etc but even if we wanted someone outside of those, there are plenty of talented coaches abroad and in the lower leagues assuming that the powerw that be put in the relevant research that may be beyond our immediate knowledge.

Bit late.

People tend to use the "give x a chance" line as a last desperate argument. People have given Buckley a chance and he to many has shown up as well off the standard. What is the difference between writing Trybull off as "awful" after even less appearances?

Mowbray has typically ranted about the state of the pitch post match. To say that the owners supposedly never refuse to write a cheque im surprised the pitch has been treat with such negligence...

And if you try to define such improvements to infrastructure, even if they exist why cant a new manager use these improvements? A supposed quality scouting network that has plucked a solitary goalkeeper and analysis boots which seem to br par for the course these days and as you say havent resulted in any improvement.

Do you think there is a realistic chance of that changing? And if not, surely it makes sense to build with half an eye on next season, building around the players mainly that will be around then. Mowbray is stumbling between systems just hoping something sticks.

The flaw regarding such a want is the assumption that a loss would lead to a change, when there is no suggestion of that.

He has never directly clarified. More deflections than a Corry Evans highlight package.

Ive not seen a replay from a good angle of either incident but it is of little surprise that you only chose the incident in which Mowbray can claim a hard luck story about.

You cant sack a manager after a successful season in which on the back of a shall we say experimental start managed to regularly win game after game to get to 96 points, comfortably clear of the play offs. Football is about results which is why his job was rightfully safe then and his time should be up now.

Ive still to see any constructive reasons as to why he should be kept on. Signs of progress, things to cling on to. The closest is the fear of "another Coyle" which is flimsy at best.

He scored the goal and fair play to him for being in the right place but be didnt do much otherwise. He is rather languid on the ball and everything is at walking pace. Fantastic is very extreme.

Plenty of business talk and intangibles as always. Proof of the pudding is on the pitch where progress can not be seen. He has done a good job overall but that journey stopped taking us forward a while ago.

Absolute shit yet again, no plan, no structure, constantly hopping between formations out of desperation. Only performance that would get 6 out of 10 was Davenport, why he was dropped I have no idea.

Decisions even themselves out. Armstrong maybe was onside but the ball seemed out of play for the equaliser which has been excluded from your analysis.

We could do with those 10-12 points right about now. Absolutely dismal, no excuses, shambolic.

Decent side but surely Travis and Davenport should play in CM? The shape makes sense, suits our main players more than 433. Magloire on to chase the game?

Nyambe is far better defensively, Rankin Costello cannot really defend and that is the primary need for a defender so I would question the competence line, but even going forward, Nyambe whilst it very much being a work in progress purely via his athleticism has started to assist goals this season, v Bournemouth, v Barnsley and v Norwich, as well as a great cross for Gallagher v Swansea in the last home game last season before lockdown. Best left back is not a compliment with our squad but I would probably go for Douglas, just. That is again not an insult to Rankin Costello as he is blatantly not a full back, never mind a left sided one.

He is not a competent right back defensively though. In those games he wasnt tested defensively but if you cant defend one on one you shouldnt be a full back. Well, indeed he isnt.

Im unconvinced that there is a consistent criticism to be had for Mowbray's treatment across the board. I do think for some of these players there is criticism to be made but I think equally there is perhaps some praise to be given. On Travis, he gets some unfair stick. He came in and did well for the three games that Smallwood was suspended in but he could have easily reverted back to the limited but experienced player. Travis has played basically every single game possible ever since and I think any talk of him stunting his development is totally unfair. Nyambe is a more complex one. Most of the time he has been first choice, but there was a decent sized spell to which Bennett was preferred despite never showing competence there. There was a game at Millwall in which Mowbray publically said that he dropped him for "lacking confidence" before putting him back in. There was also a couple of games in which Rankin Costello despite being inferior was preferred. There has also been the inability to get him to sign a new deal. So there has been plenty of game time and obvious improvement but also some scope for criticism. As for the others, the signing of Davenport has been particularly curious. Wharton has been loaned surprisingly with success (unlike many others loaned out) and had he started this season in the first team, we would have correctly questioned recruitment. After recovering from concussion, he was also preferred to a fit Ayala before getting his injury. I think with Wharton again there seemed to be a plan and some unfortunate luck. Rankin Costello has probably played as much if not slightly more than his performances have merited, and Buckley has played far more than any promise shown. I feel like Mowbrays faults and limitations lie elsewhere in the main.

I want a change of manager but for me it is a huge exaggeration to imply that Mowbray as a "football dinosaur" is going to help "kill off our club." Covid is the main protagonist that will cause all Championship clubs (and below) serious problems. I take on your board about Waggott too, all of his pricing policies and marketing strategies have shown a clear lack of understanding as to our fan base and that will only exacerbate the problem. All of this stuff about needing to rise from the ashes, on the back of some of the doomsday scenarios that you have dreamt up in the past, the club going under, the club selling its best players every summer etc before going onto the next match thread and telling people to lump on a comfortable Rovers win is what makes you somewhat of a parody figure. I also dont feel comfortable with implying that Mowbray is merely topping up his pension and cant believe his luck. He is a manager who overall has done a decent job but has clearly IMO gone as far as he can, but he seems a decent enough bloke. It is of course a job to him as it would be any other person but there is no need to question his integrity, merely suggesting that we should change manager is adequate.