9 goals and 6 assists in 21 games. In 211 games in the League, 52 goals and 76 assists. West Brom have loads of players that score and assist. Phillips, Diangana, Pereira, Austin etc. We have/had Dack.

Yeah I agree. If we hadnt have blown so much money on Brereton and Gallagher I wouldnt have been against hitting his buy out clause which would have reduced the inevitable competition once he is on a free. If he had a bad reputation and hadnt have been still so regular in his goal contributions recently then maybe not but if he does have a bad reputation then its not stopping him from performing.

I dont know how much substance there is to the bad attitude rumours, although didnt Dack have a similar image? The question you ask yourself is, do you want a player with a "bad attitude" who consistently contributes with goals and assists or a player like Bennett with a "good attitude" who doesnt contribute anything?

Evans playing alongside Travis is far from the weakest part of our team to be fair. Evans has shown competence there, whereas we are lacking up front, in net, at left back and then at centre back and out wide. Central midfield is potentially our strongest area! To be fair, we shouldnt have gone near either player. Both dreadful!

Walton is nowhere near the best, closer to being one of the worst. Dack or Downing although the former will be ruled out in terms of winning it across the season.

Definitely agree on the strangeness and costliness of the Brereton deal. But you are massively limiting yourselves when you are so keen to sign players you have worked with or know from the past. They tend to be the type of signings you make when you just have taken over a side and need 1 or 2 that you can trust to help to rebuild. 3 years in we should be far more creative and proactive than that. Signing Gallagher sums up Mowbrays transfer limitations, a poor player who hasnt improved us but of course has played for Mowbray in the past. He said last year that he was interested in Lucas Joao, a player who ended up being dropped under him last time!

Dont get why these conversations waited until January to be honest, if we are dependant on shipping players out especially in Mulgrews case one already out on loan it would have surely been a better plan to have these discussions and finalise any potential permanent move in advance of the window. Poor planning. Mowbray doesnt seem to see transfer business as an urgent matter based on those quotes, downplaying expectations. But he does mention players settling in which is why the Schmidt rumour in particular doesnt tally up.

Not sure that is a fair comparison necessarily; Robinson even at his peak often had an issue with long shots but that was made so much worse following his long spell out following complications with a back operation he had, subsequently getting a blood clot and putting on quite a bit of weight. Somewhat of a unique situation. I am not sure that Walton is a particularly good shot stopper to be fair, Raya had good reflexes but I dont think Waltons compare.

Our attack is statistically worse than our defence this season and that is with Dack included.

Bennett is not a competent Championship central midfielder. Evans is nothing special but is far more capable there. Bennett is far too rash and is poor on the ball.

Only problem is we cant spend any money on these players as we already pissed it down the drain and/or FFP wont let us!

Surely you judge a manager on the signings he DOES make, not the ones he doesnt? Otherwise Arsene Wenger would have built the best team ever! https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-2923275/Cristiano-Ronaldo-Lionel-Messi-Zlatan-Ibrahimovic-superstar-XI-players-Arsenal-nearly-signed.html

I just find it very difficult to get excited about reverting back to the bargain bin after Mowbray has blown all of our money on rubbish. Putting the injured Dack to the side, his transfer record is absolutely dismal. Is that suddenly going to change? The German player was a vague rumour by one person without a name and then sort of puzzled together by another. We may well be about to sign him, I dunno. But for me it would seem a strange one for so many reasons. We need major reinforcements at both ends with Dack out to even think about the play offs. Will that happen? Seems not.

I stand by my views on Schmidt, a player loosely linked to us so may be untrue, and one I suspect neither of us has seen. I am almost sure that the 2nd Division in Germany is of a lower standard. But i stand by my other comments in terms of position, type of contract/duration of loan, settling in and inexperience. That doesnt mean I wont judge if and when he comes and plays. Why are we unable to compete financially with teams like Brentford or even Forest? We may as well give up if thats the case. We have spent over 15m this season and last and only made 3m-4m back. That said Mowbray seems to be of the opinion that money is scarce. With a flimsy defence and more pressingly an impotent attack, that is a worry. The season is likely to shortly fizzle out. You seem to be accepting and comfortable with us being uncompetitive in the market and bigging up every linked player.

Charlton are open to offers for Lyle Taylor, would be a very good signing if the coffers hadnt been emptied signing 2 clowns. Would love to sign both him and his manager but suspect we wont be near the Taylor queue with us instead focusing on a 19 year old central midfielder plying his trade at Fylde.

Just a very unexciting potential signing. A young kid playing in the lower leagues in Germany in a position well down the priority list in terms of what we need, on a short term loan baring in mind Mowbray and his reluctance to play new players for ages even if they are domestic players. I will give him a chance but on paper it is not a signing that in any way excites me. Just feels very flat. Our squad is lacking in a number of areas and our lack of inspiraton and attacking threat is magnified with the unfortunate loss of our talisman. Bundled out of the cup, our form spiralling in the League following Dacks injury and seemingly penniless, I am not sure what there is to be excited or enthused about. Teams around us seem to be adding quality or making a conscious effort to improve, with Preston signing Sinclair, Bristol City signing Neketiah, Swansea signing Brewster, Boro signing Roberts, all the while Mowbray says he has no money after blowing 12m on shite.

After a period of natural scepticism you have returned to being an apologist and/or attempting to justify everything that the manager does or is rumoured to do. Sinclair would be a far better addition in that he has proven that he can contribute to goals from that left hand side position, something Rothwell for example has struggled to do, and Downing is better served playing central if possible or may be needed at left back. Schmidt is a strange one, one I am unconvinced regarding whether it will happen, but hes not played that many senior games, he will take time to settle which for a 6 month loan he doesnt really have, plus we have Holtby for that role. Sinclair isnt my suggestion, its Alex Neils. Rhian Brewster is going to Swansea, now I appreciate that he is raw but maybe he could have scored some goals for us? Neketiah at Arsenal? And Bundesliga 2 I doubt is the same level as the Championship.

Do Forest pay their players in Euros? ?

Focusing on the fans is a perfect smokescreen regarding the main reason that Brereton needs to leave, because he offers nothing as a footballer.

We cant sell Evans, pretty damning but with Johnson yet to perform he is a first teamer. Sinclair a very good addition for Preston while we sit on our hands. Bialokowski wouldnt come here over Millwall where he is now who are better than us sadly at this time and Cardiff who have a manager who have already has signed him this season. Nothing to get excited about a young United full back playing for Morecambe or a young german number 10 on loan. Penniless seems to be the key to this windowm

Mowbrays wage is a total guess but I suppose that proves that you get what you pay for!

I wouldnt be surprised if a mutual decision was made baring in mind his reluctance to commit to the area. With Whittingham I didnt quite get the same vibe, it seemed that he was much quieter and for him it may have simply been age catching up on him. With Johnson not being willing to commit and looking at him seemingly carrying a bit of weight you do queston his professionalism from afar. I havent lost all hope for Johnson but I really have been disapointed by him so far.

Undoubtedly he was better.

He was important and certainly a success, I dont doubt that. (Although I am not sure his presence would have jeopardised our promotion chances too much, we went up 9 points clear with a massively superior goal difference) He shouldnt have been "rewarded" with a new deal as that was short sighted and he is now deadwood but he undoubtedly did what we needed from him. Again, as a short term deal, Antonsson was a good signing, not brilliant but chipped in and played a part. I said Johnson is between average and flop. In most of his games he has been poor and I thought he was far and away our best summer signing (bar Cunningham who obviously got injured) but aside from 2 or 3 very good performances notably Bristol City away he has IMO been poor more often than not and often a liability with his inability to take the ball off the defence often seeing him regularly dispossed, and also his mobility is questionable. He cant argue with being dropped as he has been.

Smallwood and Downing were essentially temporary signings, who contributed when we needed them, in terms of the squads shape at the moment, Smallwood overall was a success as part of the initial process to get here but is now lingering as unwanted deadwood for the next 6 months, of no use to the first team as many of the hangers on where when Mowbray returned. Antonsson too. In terms of a squad rebuild, add Reed who has gone and Adarabioyo and Downing who are short team deals and you would say all 6 are fairly successful to varying degrees in terms of doing a job short term but dont contribute towards a rebuild. @JoeH most of them look correct, Leutwiler has been a definite failure who has let us down basically everytime he has come in, Bell has been a weakness throughout his time here and Samuel (some for reasons out of his control) has not scored a League goal for 2 years. All 3 have to be failures for me. Rodwell had a few decent games but would do well to cling on to average status. Johnson has been a big dissapointment but has had 2 or 3 good games so is perhaps in the grey area between average and poor. Rothwell is similar, has talent but an enigma with no end product, and Holtby I think should be a regular now but again as of yet hes got it all to prove.