Yeah we dont need both.

Agreed on Windass. Looks like that one might be too late if the rumour is true. Both him and Freeman would be exciting signings though.

Dominic Shawcross tweeting that Josh Windass is going to Ipswich but weve shown late interest. Like Freeman, both I'd question in terms of Mowbrays priorities, but also be very excited. Both have impressive stats and have impressed me when ive watched them.

Wheres this from? Hope Gallagher isnt coming back.

Freeman is an excellent player but similar to what weve already got.

I agree but I dont think there is any distrust in the manager either so I feel like theres a bit of a myth that people think hes a liar or dishonest. Just wanted to add a bit of balance on that front. The main thing that makes me slightly less hopeful about tomorrow is Mowbrays comments today about the loan market. For me, especially considering his comments prior about not being too reliant on loans, we need to be doing the brunt of our business tomorrow, with maybe a suggestion of a further loan to add to Palmer after, and even then, get that done as soon as possible. But happy to wait and see. To be fair, some of the posters posts since suggest he may have been on the wind up anyway.

Wheres your Norwood figure from? http://www.hitc.com/en-gb/2018/08/08/report-leeds-united-close-to-signing-brightons-oliver-norwood-fo/ Albeit I didnt realise he was close to signing for Leeds. If Martin is "not great" (proven Championship goalscorer who can hold the ball up) I'd suggest your expectations are a little high. Ojo has been suggested to a few teams on loan.

My point was that Venkys have history for turning off the tap at the flick of a switch. Even if Mowbray has been working under a budget that hes been promised, until its spent it can still be taken back. The word liar is a strong one I felt. I didnt expect Armstrong to be bought, and im hoping for more pleasant surprises tomorrow and I never said that I think anything specific will happen, I will judge at 5 tomorrow. Was just saying I understand people being skeptical of the owners and think that being skeptical of them and thinking Mowbray is a liar are exclusive to each other. I dont think ive known anyone to question his integrity so its not fair to assume that.

He never said or insinuated that he felt that Mowbray was a liar. In fact he made specific reference to who he would blame if we dont get what we need in the market, ie the owners. Even if Mowbray feels he has the money, the owners have the final say, until the ink is dry on the new signings contract any promises from them mean nothing, considering what theyve done in the past. We will be able to judge the window in 24 hours, both in terms of what is spent and what has been done with the money. But please stop spreading things like people think Mowbray is a liar, no one said that.

Our cheesy social media which isnt for me at all has been outshined by Burnleys announcement of Mee signing an extended deal: That said, the fact that we have yet to announce more than one at once is not indicative of anything!

Kasey Palmer has far more of an attacking threat and I have picked an attacking team. We are at home against a well drilled team. Did you watch the Ipswich game? Evans was far better than Smallwood, so surely his place would be more likely to be under threat.

In terms of names, if we are intent on improving central midfield, which shouldnt be a priority, but anyway, rather than trying to sign MLS players, Oliver Norwood is a very good midfielder at this level and is available from Brighton. Sheyi Ojo, Nikola Vlasic, Josh Sims and Brahim Diaz are all players that maybe we could sign on loan as natural wingers? Chris Martin would be a very shrewd addition, him or Nelson Oliviera. Maybe Nedum Onouha on a cheap deal would be a clever move to save money for more pressing positions, if he is fit enough. Bakary Sako is still without a club, again no idea on wage demands.

Don't get why Evans is hardly in any teams considering I felt he was one of our better performers last week, finished the last season very well, yet his place is far more vulnerable than Smallwood or indeed anyone in the team. Raya Nyambe Lenihan Mulgrew Bell Evans Smallwood Armstrong Dack Palmer Graham Subs: Leutwiler, Williams, Davenport, Bennett, Rothwell, Samuel, Conway As we all know, things could change hopefully, with a new striker, winger and centre back in the squad instead of Samuel, Conway and Rothwell. Bennett unlucky to miss out but feel that front 4 would potentially cause havoc in a game that is winnable, albeit not easy.

I think it depends on how reliant Mowbray feels he can be on the emergency loan market which will probably be driven by how much is left in the kitty. For me we should only be willing to get 1 more loan, 2 max, and even then I'm not comfortable with waiting for them until the end of the month when we are 5 games in. I get that we shouldnt panic and bring in someone of inferior quality, but Id like to think Mowbray has all of his targets lined up by now and hes not waiting for something unexpected. The key deal at the moment is a target man/focal point and I would be dissapointed if that wasnt done by the weekend. I do feel people expecting 3 or 4 signings by tomorrow may be disapointed, thats my gut feeling. As we are like any team under a budget, I feel like striker, winger and centre back are the main 3 we need, goalkeeper and central midfield less so.

Misses out Rayas horrendous kick and rush of blood in the first half. Made 2 big mistakes that we were lucky to get away with.

Yeah but it was after a relegation he failed to prevent. It wasnt after 10 games as his first 10 games were very good. Why have you removed my question about people suggesting sacking Moore from your quote?

He was a very underwhelming appointment based on previous failures but hes done very well. Not interested really in comments. Judge on results. And he got 96 points and promotion so big tick there. But your memory is playing tricks on you, no one wanted him out after 10 games. Maybe after 10 games into last season but that was following relegation (albeit under mitigating circumstances) and then a really poor start with 4 losses early on. At that point people were right to demand more. What he did after was very impressive. Please can you show me where people suggested that Moore should be sacked after 2 games.

Can you please show me who has said that Moore should be sacked before you continue with this? With quotes. Can only presume you was referring to @DE. who clearly was saying that he didnt agree with the appointment in the first place, not that he should be sacked. This isnt aimed specifically at you chaddy so apologies but its getting boring people not reading other peoples views and then shooting down points that didnt exist in the first place. 2 posters claimed that people were moaning about Armstrong before hed played a game, I asked them for proof and neither gave it to me. You felt that after 10 games that Coyle deserved more time so no need for the smugness either. (Although I think thats another myth youve made up as we did really well in Mowbrays first 10 games if I recall)

Obviously hes not going to get sacked. People are well within their rights to judge everything on its own merits. A loss to Bolton and the performance and lack of game plan tonight deserve criticism, albeit is obviously far too early to sack him. Some people were of the opinion that a more experienced manager was needed for such a task, and signs like that will only strengthen that. But only 2 games in.

Dont think Myers is in the know, left Rovers a while ago and just regurgitating stories.

Not sure what to make of Forest and West Brom so far. Like the look of Dias and Carvalho for Forest, think the fans there will be entertained by them. On paper thats not even close to a promotion defence however. Think they will entertain but I imagine Karanka will need a change of tact from his pragmatic style. West Brom have no cutting edge although to be fair Gayle is on the bench. Livermore isnt even good enough at Championship level. Dont get why Burke doesnt start.

Not necessarily, but Mowbray was insistent that he wasnt being considered to start games. You mention the injury but even this summer (may be mistaken on this, apologies if so) when asked again he reiterated that he still sees him as an impact sub. I could see him personally starting much more than he did here in League 1, as he deserved to, but dont think that Mowbray would trust him based on previous experience, therefore he may as well stay in a similar role at his local team, one much more likely to challenge for Promotion. Not saying he wouldnt want to come back, clearly has some fondness, just playing devils advocate really. To be honest I'd be surprised if him or Gallagher return.

My point was not regarding any subliminal messages being left by Mowbray. More that hes done everything he could in terms of creating a product on the pitch, and that I feel decisions made by those above him, most pertinently Waggott regarding pricing may stunt any potential major boosts in crowds that on pitch success may theoretically warrant.

Why would he want to play for a manager who has said numerous times that he only sees him as a sub, and clearly doesnt trust him, hence 1 start last season?

https://www.rovers.co.uk/news/2018/august/lets-pack-ewood-on-a-regular-basis-says-tony/ The boss is aiming to bring on back the good times but admits what happens on the pitch will determine the numbers backing the lads from the stands on occasions. “There has been some negativity around the club for a long time now, but I would like to see a packed Ewood week in, week out. Some will come back and support the team, some won’t," Mowbray said to iFollow Rovers “The results will dictate what happens in the stands. The team have to make the people proud when they pull on the shirt. They need to work hard, fight for every ball, tackle, score goals and play with their heart and emotions. Found these comments a bit strange on the website today. Everyone will testify that the fans can all see that the team were giving their all last season, crowds went up, especially away support which was phenomenal. Plenty of goals and success. I hope he isnt naive enough to expect massive crowds, nor think that he and the teams efforts are under appreciated. The core number of supporters isnt that big, and I suspect that reason that the crowds might not increase by as much as Mowbray may like is due to the price increases.