One thing that particularly pleased me was set pieces and how weve looked at them in the week, found weaknesses and exploited them perfectly. Reason being that I feel that we can do better than we have been at set pieces, we might not have the biggest team but we dont pose enough of a threat from them IMO. I even commented on hoping that Reed would be taken off corners on here the other day. He then set up a goal from one within 2 minutes. Im not sure Dack as a 9 and Brereton wide really worked and I wouldnt play them in those positions again. Always felt that overlap was on for Leeds down the left towards the end and was just pleased that Barry Douglas wasnt playing. But a third midfielder was very useful.

I felt that it was incredibly harsh to drop both in favour of a player who has been poor this season, after being so good last. I suppose I would have to say that Mowbray may just have got that decision right...

Even in that post, there is an undercurrent of bitterness towards supporters simply giving an opinion on a messageboard, putting supporters in inverted commas being one. He has received complete support at the ground. This is a messageboard, away from where Brereton or anyone else can be affected by any opinions. If the Brereton bandwagon that you speak of were booing and jeering him at games it would be a different ball game. The fan base is united behind and trusting of Mowbray, but that doesnt mean that they cant develop opinions contrary to that of the manager. I trust Mowbray but I still think that signing Gladwin was a massive mistake, to give you an extreme example. The reason he gets so much conversation surrounded him based on less game time than many others is because of the price. Its not that people dont appreciate that hes young, but theres a natural fascination because relative to recent years, he cost a monumental amount. For some perspective, I reiterate that I think he did well today.

And Palmer made the goal with a superb bit of individuality in the last game. Rothwell has also done plenty to warrant a game. Excellent team performance and them 2 spent the afternoon getting splinters in their backsides and we still have them waiting to improve us further.

Whilst I agree that its needless to bring it into the debate as it was just then, you obviously posted what your job was on here in the first place for him to know! But agree with you. Irrelevant to the thread.

I wouldnt even say that. Comparing again to Keans time here, he was very much a symptom of the problem, and he also received a heavy amount of fan ire. McCarthy was very much overachieving in spite of the root problem. He wasnt even a symptom. I also do wonder if McCarthy feels any resentment towards the funds that Hurst has been able to spend this summer? He may have been able to make his sides easier on the eye as well as effective.

Didnt you say the other day that one of the reasons that surcharges arent an issue is because people dont just decide on the day to attend, something you personally have never done.

Which is why they should have kept a manager perfect for working on such a budget with consistent overachievement.

Negative comments/snipes would only be a worry if they were in the ground, as you said he was appreciated when he did things well today at the ground (I thought he did pretty well in the main today and was improved on previous appearances) and no one has turned on him even in prior cameos when he has looked poor. If someone plays crap, or does something that doesnt impress, people are entitled to come on here and say so. Nearly everyone today acknowledged him being played out of position, no one has suggested that hes not trying, and obviously people on here arent "experts." Some people seem to have totally forget what a messageboard is. A place to air opinions, both positive and negative. Everyone has their own opinions of how we should play etc, ive heard plenty of people say things like this player played poorly, this player should have played instead, this formation should have been used, this substitute should have been made, but never that Mowbray should be replaced by themselves. We are in a thread dedicated to Ben Brereton. If he plays poorly in peoples opinion, people will state as much.

Ipswich continuing to regret the sacking of the man keeping them in the League. Wigan doing almost identical to us, 2 very similar teams, Cook doing a very good job there. Thought Stoke were about to turn a corner and very surprised by Birmingham winning there. Swansea will be an interesting game midweek. I dont think they will be in the play off hunt, not enough quality, depth or experience for me.

As jim said, your stupid "regardless of cost" comment. Say stupid things, expect to be laughed at.

Again, I dont get the over-protectiveness or implying that everyone is desperate for a negative amidst a very good day. Look at the Leeds thread, Armstrong, Evans, Mulgrew, Lenihan, Graham, Raya, Bennett etc, all receiving praise. As has Brereton from many quarters (me included) but theres the additional issue of where he was played. The only reason people came to this thread is that there was already an ongoing conversation on him before the game, whether people like it or not, a 7m million pound signing will attract plenty of debate. "Questionable pop at a young lad" suggests that the fans are on his back in any way. I can suggest from being at the game that nothing could be further from the truth, got hearty applause on numerous occasions, in fact the fans again today were brilliant in general. Mowbray can always do as he wants, as he is manager. People should also be free to judge what he does, on an internet messageboard, without being jumped on as if they are giving him a hard time.

Dont get the clamour to put him in defence. 2 games of promise.

Ben Gladwin wont be happy to hear that.

Ive not seen the explosive pace hes supposed to had and hes never a winger. Some of his passes and lay offs resemble someone unfamiliar with a footballer. But I thought he did well today, exactly what we would want from him and a vast improvement on usual.

Brilliant result and performance, looked to be going towards the usual narrative, missed chances and throwing away points. But we matched the levels in the second half and good to see Lenihan on target. Much needed home win as our home form has been our achilles heel this year. Thought Armstrong was absolutely brilliant, only qualm is the lack of goal but he was so positive and his pace ripped them apart time and time again. Graham superb as a focal point, Raya with a great save and he impressed me with his catching. Reed industrious, Evans was superb again and I hope he plays alongside Rodwell in midweek. Dack quieter than usual but did fine. Two centre backs very good, Bennett stuck to his task very well, Bell possibly our weakest player and wouldnt be surprised to see Williams come back in Found the Brereton change a bit strange, hes never a winger and didnt track back, nor is Dack a number 9. I actually thought Brereton did quite well when he came on though, he doesnt look like a footballer and some of his passes were lacking intelligence, but he definitely offered far more than he has in the past. Rodwell and Conway also did their jobs.

Cant believe Shane Long still gets a game. Awful player. Alan Browne is doing well at Preston, surrpised hes not closer to your starting 11.

He can moan until the cows come home, its not going to change owt.

Definitely think that O'Neill is a dinosaur, but I do also think that the squad is so poor. He did argue the other day that he is dealing with largely a squad of Championship players, often in and out at their clubs and he is correct. Would argue that with their Celtic core of Tierney, Forrest, McGregor, Griffiths and also Robertson and Cairney, Scotland have a far better playing squad, although their manager is possibly even worse.

Maybe on paper but never on grass, thats the problem.

Mulgrews clearly got a strong desire to play for his country though. The games you mentioned were around the time that he was made captain for a few games. With the introduction of the Nations League, the intention is seemingly to remove wherever possible the notion of a friendly so Im not sure how you can apply this "common sense" and ask him to not play for his country.

Raya Reed Lenihan Mulgrew Williams Rodwell Evans Bennett Dack Palmer Graham Subs: Leutwiler, Bell, Smallwood, Rothwell, Armstrong, Brereton, Travis When we tend to have a doubt, he rarely plays so I suspect that Mulgrew will miss out. Hope Reed is taken off corners.

I do hope not.

Disabled fans in the lower tier then. Ive no idea, probably very few. That doesnt mean its the right decision, or that I cant feel aggrieved. Its still not wise to aggravate supporters. Well they have the exact same dilemma they face now, attend some weekend games as a walk on or get a season ticket and attend as many as possible. Both preferably without the added reasons not to of a surcharge and higher season ticket prices! My point is that I feel/would guess that any new fans who dont have season tickets at the moment who would buy one of these tickets would be more than offset by the number who would change from having full season tickets (id suggest that more than 50% dont/cant attend all 23 games) to the type of ticket that you suggest. Thus you are basically shutting down any chance of even a slightly respectable midweek attendance. Your attitude is, dont question anything, it is how it is and thats that. Waggott is not beyond question just like anyone else at the club isnt. I dont understand why you use a messageboard if youre attitude is that theres no point mentioning things as it "wont change owt." Suggesting which players we could sign/sell, what tactics wed play and what subs we would have made is also futile by such an attitude.

Theres a galling lack of empathy and an inability to see any other person circumstance aside from your own. As @Hasta touched on, obviously the surcharge wont affect you, or me in fact, regular season ticket holders. I dont understand your staunch defence of it based on the sole reasoning on Waggott said it so it must be true. I applaud the thinking outside the box re the weekend only/x number of games only season tickets but it would just encourage current season holders to downgrade. Again, youve only thought of it as you do shift work, therefore you seem to presume that everyone does. Very good post. The club may need to think outside the box rather than focusing on fleecing every penny from its core following. The overestimates sales target and lack of historical knowledge from Waggott all screams amateur to me.