I don’t think I have ever defended their failures and with the history of abusive responses on this forum what I choose the share is my choice alone.

Glen let me be clear no one has pulled the wool over my eyes about any aspect of what is happening at Ewood, that’s from before during and after 1973-2022. The sports science thing has evolved beyond anything that I understood and that’s just from 4 years ago it’s a remarkable area of football. It all costs money and it’s intriguing to note Rivers performers in this area have all gone to bigger clubs which shows the value the club hold in this arena. You mention clubs catching us in the academy stakes? Burnley lose their cat 1 status whilst others are nowhere near us We outperform many of the big clubs. We have to remember this is Rovers 2022 a town club with limited resources and due to the incompetence over the past 11 years it has had to be restructured and rebuilt. I believe it’s on the right track despite your alternative views and yes having had many conversations with you there is a lot I agree with. Cost cutting is a big thing especially after the covid years - thankfully we aren’t a derby or Bristol c we have survived and are slowly but surely progressing forwards. Mowbray really did fuck this season up for us it wasn’t venkys it wasn’t waggot it was simply down to the stubbornness of Mowbray who fell out with everyone and refused to spend funds that were made available. I have my views and I have my thoughts about what is going on and I hope they do come to fruition like many others

Hand on heart and from the very first day yes I can. BRFC is not just about what we see on the pitch there are many aspects to it. An example is the academy which goes from strength to strength as does the u18 and then the even younger element NEVER have we seen such a broad amount of talent coming through the club since the likes of Dunny and Duff. The off pitch scientific work is amazing to see. We can all think we understand it however until you sit down and read the research and results of each and every player I don’t think anyone can comprehend just what goes on with it and how it helps players improve not to mention how it assists in developing their attributes. We have all seen how poor the Ewood pitch has been and we all decried the club and SW for not splashing out last preseason. There wasn’t reason for it as priorities were in place which I think will benefit the players across the age groups as well as the first team. The new pitch and system, drainage and new heating and lighting will be a huge improvement. People often forget Rovers have a tv PL income of £8m per season to play with along with income generated by ticket sales and other commercial means - it’s a limited amount of cash and is being managed and spent wisely without being thrifty with it. So again I have seen some really good improvement within the club. Don’t get me wrong there are many other facets of the club that need urgently addressing - season tickets fan experience and communication are just some of the areas I refer to.

Mowbray was talking utter garbage after his toy out the pram throwing episode and fall out with his back room staff 🤬 Have you ever considered how long it takes to review a large quantity of applications and vast interest in the job? if you are serious about a lack of planning going on behind the scenes you really haven’t got a clue

You’re wrong his offer was comparative but wasn’t guaranteed game time

Then why don’t you try instead of spouting off on a forum? And for the record I promised absolutely nothing

You need to look more closely at ALL aspects of the football operation at Ewood and then you will see and understand changes

You are right, its about opinions. I just want to make this bit clear, I have not put all my faith into Steve Waggot or anyone else that I have spoken to at the club. Yes, I listened to them but before I did I was armed with all sorts of research, evidence and so many different versions of what or what hasnt happened since day dot. What I have been able to ascertain from the club leads me to believe that there is a bright future, or indeed better future ahead for the club over many aspects of football operations not just the playing side but ALL aspects including as a priority the FANS, commercial, the ticket fiascos, the academy, the pitches, the rumour and speculation, the finances et al. Because of what I had already learned prior to visiting the club it was pretty simple to dispel the rumours and utter crap, it was relatively easy to look ahead and see how the supposed plans impact on the club. If it doesnt come off then it will be very simple to take the club to task be it personally or through alternative means, if changes occur for the good and better then I will be content to some extent about what I was told. It is not just me who is aware of potential goings on at the club, there are many others who choose not to say what they know and for clear reasons. If there is a time when I need to fully explain things then you can bet your last penny, it will be out there. Finally, the grass being greener issue never works in a players favour especially when it is Rovers. History shows the likes of Hendry, Sutton, Bentley, Gestede, Rhodes, Marshall, Gallacher and many others who left for various reasons and it didnt really work out for the better, maybe financially but not professionally.

Thank you Glen most appreciated from a fellow fan with obvious and clear concerns for our club!

Miller your post is not quite correct. I have pointed out that in my view they are not as good as they might perhaps think they are. I have always said that Nyambe has flaws in his game - dont all players? - but I have never once stated he isnt good enough for Rovers nor have I ever muted the fact that I want him our of the club. The same applies to Rothwell. As good as he can be or as inconsistent as has shown, I have never wanted him out of the club NOR have I ever said anything about Waggot not rating either player other than suggesting they are not the player worth the money they are seeking in contract talks. This is a marked difference to what you are trying to imply. The grass isnt always greener as history with Rovers players who leave has shown. The Watford link would appear to be true whereas many on here thought it was Leeds. For the record my view is that he isnt anywhere near the standard required for either club because of the way they play to their strengths. You appear to have this thought or view that I live and die by every word that comes from Waggot and co, you are seriously mistaken if you actually believe what you have written. You are even more misguided by those beliefs when you dont know me, dont know anything about me and dont know my intentions about how I go about finding out the truth behind the issues at Ewood. I am a Rovers fan who wants the best for the club and that is it. As for players like Anderson getting a lift in football - yes it is bent, its wrong and it happens and will likely continue. Your mentioning of players being tapped up, of course it happens but it doenst happen in the manner which has been described on this forum, it happens between agents not representatives of the players own football club. Anyone who believes this is the case is mistaken.

This so wrong assumptive link to WBA is incredulous especially when you are factoring a link to three out of contract Rovers players, it just isnt happening nor is it a credible rumour. Anyone who thinks it would never have hit the media be it national or social, facebook or tiktok, instagram and twitter is dreaming. The so wrong belief that Nyambe and Rothwell are instant premier league players is just as bad, neither are good enough, neither will make a first 11 and neither will progress any further than they are at Rovers. If we look at Lenihan, I do rate him highly and for me he is the kind of player Rovers need to be at the spine of the team. However, when making a comparison with the worst Premier teams, I ask myself if he is capable of dislodging the players they have. the answer is not really. He isnt better than what Norwich, Burney or Watford have, he is nowhere near as good as what Brentford, Leeds, Newcastle, Palace or Everton have and he most certainly isnt going to be able to better himself further up that league. Looking at the Championship teams and in particular WBA. How does anyone seriously think they are touting for WBA or that he is the king maker in waiting? The fans and the club will have seen the Mowbray implosion at Ewood, they have seen it themselves and its a repeating theme in his career. The want progression not regression and on that basis alone, Mowbray does not fit their model. The suggestion that Rovers staff are telling players not to sign contracts is ludicrous. Its gross misconduct for one and a sackable offence, its immoral and it is not happening as is described by some on here. Going back to Rothwell and Nyambe, both have been good, bad and ugly at times this season, in fact at times they have been awfully poor and inconsistent. Clubs who were/are interested in them will see this and will impact on their decisions whether to sign them. Recently, both have been awfully bad and it was apparent their heads may be looking away from Ewood, that is a totally unprofessional way to conduct themselves especially more when you consider the rewards that are on offer at Ewood and not just the chance of Premiership football. I agree that they are and have been victims of Mowbrays tinkering with the first team but their own inconsistency plays a huge part and only they are to blame. The fans who think they are worth £14k or more per week are in dreamland, truth is they are not. Wages in the Championship have levelled out and are going down rather than up, tv money, sponsorship and the like are all down for every club and supporters across the spectrum are pissed off with hiking non sensical ticket prices. Some clubs have it right and a lot of them have it wrong.

The PL club is or was Watford!

There isn’t a manager in the championship that could demand an£5m pa salary in the current climate not even the parachute clubs would pay it. Football wages outside of the PL are nowhere near they once were and not will they ever reach those types of figures again

My reasoning about accountability on the pitch is on the managers head and his alone - we all know about ownership. Accountability for the CEO and senior leaders is for off the pitch operations as well as looking at how the manager is performing with his players, getting results and progressing towards to ultimate objective. At not a single point has Mowbray accepted accountability for his failings as a manager instead passing the buck to players and now the fans. Its not about ownership of the club. At no point has Waggot come out and accepted his own part in accounting for the managers failings, results, poor form and a damn right failure to secure a top 6 spot this season when it was there cap in hand. Again, this isn't about ownership. I have read with interest Glens post, and I agree with most of everything he says and of course I mirror almost entirely his opinions, on the points I differ with him, I still respect his own.views. Looking back over the last 4 years I look to see if there is progression, there is in some context however there is a massive element of regression and it is this where the accountability has to be owned. On that footing alone, it is down to Mowbray and Mowbray alone. Yes we can vent anger at the owners and Waggot for not sacking him but for me, until the Hull postponement, Rovers were odds on for a top 6 maybe a top 2 spot and at that point he deserved to remain in post whether you like it or not and whether you agree or not. Rovers were top 2 on merit and performances alone and all of this after a debilitating 7-0 home loss. Since fatal February arrived, Mowbray reverted to type and this had a profound effect on all things football related, from players to the fans, to the club shop and beyond. Apathy reigned, Mowbray refused to listen and ignored what was in front of him. His lack of tactical nouse suggested that he had not gone stale, he had simply lost all respect of players and fans and just tried to meander his way through excuses after excuses. In fact my view is that he had yet again become a busted flush. Supporters constantly say - especially on here (and other forums) - that they dont see changes, well there is and are changes. Look at the community trust, look at the community work, look at the commercial side and how changes are being made, look at the academy and how its performing, look at the internal aspect of the club and how its working, look at the youngsters tied to contracts and have a think about what else is happening. Look at the efforts going on to try and entice fans back to the ground. And after this, look at the financial footing the club is on. - Please don't shout about the debt, it is owned by the Venkys and them alone. It is about the current state of the accounts and the operations set for the next 2-3 years. We can all grunt about prices, season ticket details, release dates, kit designs and everything else and we can all wait to see what the reaction might be to the letter so well written and produced that outlines concerns and ideas to the future of BRFC. It is a constant that the owners are a hated entity, I cant and wont deny they deserve it but at the same time, they are funding the club. Should we be grateful? Yes and no - there will be subjective and objective views, some legitimate, some that are misguided, some that are so far way of the mark and others that hit the nail on the head. I await with interest the outcome of the next forum and I look forward to watching and reading the views of posters (and others) about how they see it. We know there has to be a managerial change and we know that a better leadership team has to be better placed to take the club forward. For me, it is vital that the fans are allowed to play a part and that they are listened to. It will hurt big time watching little old Bournemouth celebrate promotion as Ewood, we have seen it before and it is indicative of just how much of a failure Mowbray has been in the last 3 months. As RFW would say, it is the best ever example of a Devon Loch

dont be crass I dont like custard creams! If thats your take then you are not as bright or educated as I thought you might be!

Its accountability and NOT ownership that is a major issue at Ewood.

I just do not accept this to be the case, if anything it would have been a while back not in the last throes of the season and whilst we had a chance of the top 6

After this weekends performances he doesn’t deserve a new contract not one but of on field leadership has been shown by our captain

I agree to some extent however it’s pretty simple as a full back - defend when you have to and attack at will when going forward - Ryan’s regression has nothing to do with the fact he cannot cross a ball he cannot take a throw in properly he can not take a player on once he passes the half way line and he is most certainly not a goal scorer - analysing his defensive prowess shows at times he is not the best either. You cannot lay all the blame on the coaches a lot if it is down to a player taking his game forward

Interesting that the touch line duo of Venus and Lowe were not patrolling leaving the hands in pocket sourfaced twat gurning and raising his eyebrows to the support

Gally is a good player who is played out of position by an inept manager

I have just read his after match comments in the LET, he is taking the piss out of us all. There should have been no need for a team talk the boro result was all the incentive needed. Yet the useless gimp sent out a team devoid of any attacking nouse, a defence left far too exposed by playing Johnson and with the out of form Dolan slinking between 3 six footers up front! What a complete embarrassment today was, the end of a play off dream with the team now struggling to even finish in the top 10! The sooner he leaves the better.

A complete fucking loser

Then you don’t watch his every game he has been absolutely shocking at times and wobbles every time he goes across the half way line there are far better players out there and although I wanted him to stay for me he can take the same bus as Mowbray himself

I cannot understand how Johnson has come out for the second half 🤬