I hate it when people say that. I forgot, Duff, Pires, Henry, Giggs, Scholes and the rest don't play in England do they? It's what people like to spew out. The premier league has just as much skill, it simply is played in a different manner. Players are not allowed as much time on the ball and it's played at a higher pace. This means that there is less room to show off. For me this is one of the reasons why Beckham has had a poor tournament. He is starting to get used to the Real Madrid style of play, which isn't what best fits him regarding what he is good at. He's a hard worker, with great passing and vision, sadly I think he's used to playing with the all stars and messing around.

No way of knowing that. Who knows how Beckham scoring may have changed the mentality of other players and in this way affected how they took their penalties. It's really impossible to say.

Of course it can. Ferguson though has shown himself, at least after he settled in, to be a performer and a battler. One who will probably displace Flitcroft in the side next season, so it makes sense to have him become captain. I'm not having a go at Flitty, but being captain does mean that there is extra pressure on him to perform. Just look at the things said about Beckham on this site after last night, it's exactly the same for Flitcroft.

You are rather milking this aren't you 1864?

10K at this point isn't bad...maybe one good signing draw a few more in and improve on the crowds from last season. wishful thinking?

Flitrcroft has been a great player for the club, but 1864, for the past couple seasons he's been past his best and inconsistent. Yes, he still gives his all, but at the end of the day we have better players, he doesn't deserve to be insulted, but at the same time, have to take a look at reality.

Because if terry is making a genuine attempt to play the ball, then it's not a foul, they are just getting in each others way if you see. His arm is "limp", if you see what I mean, in that top picture, it is not holding him down, it is straight out. It's not a foul, I'm a striker (watch out I'm looking to get somewhere with this) and if that goal was taken away from me, I'd be miffed.

As far as im concerned judging by those pictures, it looks to me like the keeper has jumped under Terry's arm, now that, is not a foul

Brian Clough wasn't it? Maybe it's true, but make it your own death and not someone else's.

Come on boys calm down. He was poor and biased, but it is just football, leave the man alone.

Thanks a lot, well I hope to be getting a team soon as there is no waiting list in France, and hopefully I'll be playing some of you in friendlies and such sometime in the near future.

Ferguson (Bazza) is really going to have to work hard then....

Lucky lofty isnt around, it was his thread that called for this very move that started the big debate about who is friend was and how rude Steb is.

Sorry, I'm lazy, though I did find it in the end. Right now I'm actually having trouble logging on. I've registered, but it always says that it's failed, I'm really not sure what's wrong so I may have to register a new team I suppose. And yes, I've made sure many times that it's the right user name and password.

That was my point basically, well said

I really got behind England in Euro 2004, but there is no doubt that I love Rovers more. This would have been hard to tell if anyone had been watching me last night compared to any Rovers match. The difference for me though came after the match had finished. England lost, I accepted it, and turned my attention to other things, of course it hurt, but I don't really mind all that much. This isn't like a Rovers game, where I am down for a week if they simply lose a League Cup match while fielding their reserves against Brighton.

Are you told when your warning level is increased?

Whats the site?

it's free?

This site is such a positive place

Is Hattrick free? When does the season start again?

That was a bit out of the blue! I think you'll find that the English did invent football however, and that we won't be stuffed by Sweden. Not saying we'll go through tonight, but if we don't, I don't think it will be the Swedes who knock us out.

T1MJ I was typing up something very long looking into manegerial changes at the two clubs, lack of any concrete evidence to support the theory, and the player being somewhat unavaiable for lengthy negotiations as a result of Euro 2004 making your story sound totally untrue...however I just can't be bothered, and am inclined to simply say that its total crap. Either give us all the information you know and be done with it, or admit that you are just making this up because you have nothing better to do and pi$$ing around

Seeing how interested he is in a move to United it's probably best that we didn't go for him anyway.

Can't agree there Paul. We sell Dunn and Duff for £22.5m. The money comes in over the life of the contracts, say 4 years, at £5.5m per year. We purchase Gresko, Amoruso, Reid, Emerton, and Ferguson for £14m on similar terms costing £3.5m per year. In the meantime we finish 9 places down the Premiership table losing £4.5m. Net loss over the year = £2.5m In addition to that we will be paying considerably more out in wages for the five new players than for Dunn ansd Duff. Possibly an extra £40kp.w.? Loss over the year now = £4.5m There's no way of knowing that had we had Duff in the team, a player who has been injured for much of this season, we would have done any better. It was sad to see him go, but when will people accept that we did the best we could to keep him but in the end money talks, he's gone, so lets get on with what we have now. We have some good players at the moment and lots of good young talent so lets just look forward to the upcoming season.