To Hell And Back. Dingles 0 v Rovers 0

[Scotty]

An interesting piece here from The Guardian:

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I especially like the honours comparison at the bottom.

[Morph]

An interesting piece here from The Guardian:

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I especially like the honours comparison at the bottom.

From the article:

"Blackburn Rovers fans tauntingly refer to the home of Burnley as Tiny Moor"

Eh? T-U-R-D spells? Other than that, a good read. Nice to see the bitterness shining through so brightly:

"Burnley, famous country wide for producing player after home-grown player, were in their pomp then, and still harbour hopes of a return to those glory years. Indeed many believe it is their right, and mutter darkly that but for Jack Walker's millions they would still be north Lancashire's top dogs."

He he. Sucks to be them I guess.

[Alan75]

Morph, the Guardian are known historically for miss printing words .

[SIMON GARNERS 194]

'' Indeed many believe it is their right, and mutter darkly that but for Jack Walker's millions they would still be north Lancashire's top dogs."

Absolute classic!!

Would we be talking about a supposed 'top dog' Burnley that prior to 'Jack walkers millions' were to be seen shamefully grubbing around the bottom of the old fourth division with gates of 1,600?

Top dog in north Lancashire they maybe but NEVER have been nor NEVER will be in East Lancashire!!

[Hughesy]

Dont know if this has been mentioned but the coaches from ewood are setting off from the highest numbered coach, going down to 1.

Anybody know of any high coach numbers that anyone is on? We are on coach 64

[thenodrog]

"This was a time when football hooliganism reached a peak, although there were untimely echoes of this violent past when Burnley were last at home to Blackburn, on December 17 2000. Blackburn won 2-0 and hundreds fought it out in Burnley's shopping precinct, with around 20 charged with public order offences. Stores were looted and for more than an hour after the final whistle Blackburn fans were held at Turf Moor for their own safety."

Spoken like a true dingle! The selective memory feats of our tree dwelling rivals are reaching staggering proportions. Surely he should have the decency to admit that that event was down to Burnley numpty's and Burnley numpty's alone?

No doubt in years to come that will have evolved into a famous battle where a gallant 20 dingles defended their beloved town centre from thousands of crazed, rampant woad painted Rovers fans.

[Martin]

Dont know if this has been mentioned but the coaches from ewood are setting off from the highest numbered coach, going down to 1.

Anybody know of any high coach numbers that anyone is on? We are on coach 64

Works both ways. Last in will be first out and vice-versa.

Being on coach 1, I am going to be last going somewhere.

Anyway, will Sparky have sat the players down and made them watch the game from 4 years ago?

I worry some of them won't know what it's all about. The pitch is going to be a real leveller.

[Paul]

Hollands Pies will be launching their new Lancashire Hot Pot at the game. So all you early arrivals will be OK

[Ben-2000]

I'm on the potentially unlucky coach... 13

[Hughesy]

I'm on the potentially unlucky coach... 13

Unlucky for the others on the coach or unlucky for you?!

[trueblue]

Hollands Pies will be launching their new Lancashire Hot Pot at the game.

Yeah.. Preferably at the Bumley monkey's

[theoriginalLongsider]

Spoken like a true dingle! The selective memory feats of our tree dwelling rivals are reaching staggering proportions. Surely he should have the decency to admit that that event was down to Burnley numpty's and Burnley numpty's alone?

No doubt in years to come that will have evolved into a famous battle where a gallant 20 dingles defended their beloved town centre from thousands of crazed, rampant woad painted Rovers fans.

pot....kettle....

reading your lots "Funny Stories Of Derby Day Vrs Burnley" thread on here and other posts in relation to your "invasion" of Burnley in '77 ....seems like you lot have got rewriting history down to an art form.....

I can see it now...in 10 years time our home game in 2000 will have seen 5000 Rovers fans in the Longside, the away end sold out .... and burnley locked in for the own safety as Rovers fans ran amock celebrating a famous victory....

[Blueboy Downunder]

a victory for rovers would be rather nice.....but, i would also not mind a draw, then at least i get to see rovers v burnley as my last match:)

[SD4E]

I can see it now...in 10 years time our home game in 2000 will have seen 5000 Rovers fans in the Longside, the away end sold out .... and burnley locked in for the own safety as Rovers fans ran amock celebrating a famous victory....

Yawn

Difference is we need a few years before we fabricate the facts in our favour, where as You Clarots like to do it almost instantaneously!

E.g. How burnley fans had 7-8000 at the last match at Ewood, and they away end was absolutely packed.... :

lets put this to bed! we didnt sell out the away end and neither did you. does it really matter that much?

By the way- LET tonight qoutes 600 tickets still left?

[longsiders1882]

By the way- LET tonight qoutes 600 tickets still left?

Yeah - Apparently a load have been returned as Burnley fans, in fear for their safety from the invading hoardes have decided to watch at home - apparently they all read the Derby memories thread and didn;t realise it was a work of fiction

Edited February 16, 2005 by longsiders1882

[AndyC]

good article in the guardian:

http://football.guardian.co.uk/News_Story/....html?gusrc=rss

Burnley aim to end 45 years of hurt

Lancashire rivals renew hostilities in Sunday's fifth-round tie

Stephen Bierley

Wednesday February 16, 2005

The Guardian

Blackburn Rovers fans tauntingly refer to the home of Burnley as "Tiny Moor". "Jackburn Jokers living in the shadow of the Reebok," Clarets retaliate, taking vicarious delight in Bolton's Premiership dominance.

Look at the map of Lancashire, gather in a huge slice of footballing history, ignore the two Manchester clubs, and there is no obvious reason why the greatest of red rose rivalries should not have been between Blackburn and Preston, Accrington, Bolton, Rochdale or even Blackpool. But by tradition, Blackburn versus Burnley it has always been.

Lancashire was the birthplace of professional football, and the very start of modern football is spiritually set in Blackburn, with Ewood Park hosting internationals as the 19th century drew to its end. Perhaps the mill town of Burnley, standing at a higher elevation, and like Blackburn home to one of the immortal dozen founder members of the Football League, always believed in an innate superiority and so the rivalry was nourished.

Mike Holgate, who has just published a book on this rivalry, dating back to an 1882 friendly that Rovers won 10-0, tells the story of a talented cousin who had a trial for Burnley and was turned down. A similar offer then came from Blackburn but as Holgate recalls: "He never went. He just couldn't face it because of what his family and mates would think."

Discounting the war years and various loan deals, only 30 players have pulled on the claret and blue and the white and blue. In recent times David May and Andy Todd; most famously Adam Blacklaw, John Connelly and Keith Newton. Yet if this relatively small number might appear to emphasise the great divide - which along the M65 is about 10 miles - then relations between the two clubs have invariably been cordial.

Not so with the fans. "It became a lot more bitter during the 1970s and 1980s," said Holgate.

This was a time when football hooliganism reached a peak, although there were untimely echoes of this violent past when Burnley were last at home to Blackburn, on December 17 2000. Blackburn won 2-0 and hundreds fought it out in Burnley's shopping precinct, with around 20 charged with public order offences. Stores were looted and for more than an hour after the final whistle Blackburn fans were held at Turf Moor for their own safety.

Meetings between senior police officers and the two clubs have tried to ensure that Sunday's Cup match passes off without incident. There will be high-visibility patrols throughout Burnley comprising mounted police, dog handlers and special evidence-gathering teams with video cameras. "As long as that rivalry remains friendly and doesn't spill over into disorder then we have no problem with that," said Superintendent Neil Smith.

It is possible that what happened five years ago was inflamed by the fact that the two clubs had crossed paths so infrequently since the end of the 1970s and that the chance of a little tribal warfare proved irresistible. Since 1979 Burnley and Blackburn have met only four times in the league, and Sunday's fifth-round encounter is the first in the Cup since their quarter-final in March 1960, which went to a replay.

For Holgate, a Burnley fan, the memory of those two matches remains as vivid as it does painful. A crowd of 51,501 saw a dour first half, with little indication of the ensuing drama. "I was there on my own," said Holgate, who was only 12 years old.

Inspired by Jimmy McIlroy, who has a stand named after him, Burnley went 3-0 up, and so it remained with not much more than 15 minutes left. But what so easily might have gone on to be a Burnley league and Cup double evaporated under the Pennine skies. Four days later, Rovers won 2-0 in extra-time, then lost in the final to Wolves.

"I suppose the fact that I went to that first Cup match on my own tells you a lot about the different times then," said Holgate. "I can also remember that in the 1960s several of the Burnley players were part-time because the club insisted they took on a trade."

Burnley, famous country wide for producing player after home-grown player, were in their pomp then, and still harbour hopes of a return to those glory years. Indeed many believe it is their right, and mutter darkly that but for Jack Walker's millions they would still be north Lancashire's top dogs. So they might, but not in the Premiership.

Only four meaningful meetings in the last 25 years. Hardly a rivalry at all, you might say. Except that at 13.40 on Sunday afternoon, and a more ridiculous time could not be imagined, time past and time present will again entwine.

To misquote TS Eliot: "Footballs echo in the memory" - and for 90 minutes the rivalry will be every bit as intense as it ever was.

Rolls of honour

Blackburn Rovers

Premiership champions

1995

League champions

1912, 1914

Second Division champions

1939

Third Division champions

1975

FA Cup winners

1884, 1885, 1886, 1890, 1891, 1928

League Cup winners

2002

Burnley

League champions

1921, 1960

Second Division champions

1898, 1973

Third Division champions

1982

Fourth Division champions

1992

FA Cup winners

1914

[USABlue]

reading your lots "Funny Stories Of Derby Day Vrs Burnley" thread on here and other posts in relation to your "invasion" of Burnley in '77 ....seems like you lot have got rewriting history down to an art form.....

I think you and I have covered this ground before huh mate? You remember the newspaper article? I would say confidently that our following that day was well above and beyond anything we have seen come from yours to ours since our paths recrossed in the modern era. (post sixties) If I recall correctly Longsider, not a knock mate, you weren't there so your only way of knowing is from second hand accounts. You have your embellishers as we do ours. Tell you what though Twas magical and we were ALL OVER THE PLACE.

Edited February 16, 2005 by USABlue

[SamDingle]

"Blackburn Rovers fans tauntingly refer to the home of Burnley as "Tiny Moor". "Jackburn Jokers living in the shadow of the Reebok," Clarets retaliate, taking vicarious delight in Bolton's Premiership dominance. "

????!!

I couldn't see much point reading on after this introduction.

Whoever wrote it clearly knows nothing of Burnley, Blackburn or this rivalry.

More lazy half-arsed journalism written in t'smoke.

[Dan Furness]

I agree Sam

I think he 'googled' his research

[longsiders1882]

quote from letter sent by a clarets mad poster

Sir

I was flabbergasted to read the remarkably contrived and made up comments in this article by Stephen Bierley. The first paragraph is pure rubbish. I, and no other Burnley or Blackburn fans that I have ever known, have ever referred to Turf Moor as ‘Tiny Moor’; ‘Jackburn Jokers’ is not a term ever heard before, and I have never heard Burnley fans compare the current position of Bolton with that of Blackburn. As a Burnley fan, terms such as ‘Turd Moor’, ******* Rovers’ and ‘Deadwood’ (for Ewood) are commonly heard.

So, in a opening paragraph of 4 lines, your reporter has clearly been at the fiction bottle the night before, having failed to research his subject properly – surely the first rule of journalism is to do your research properly and not just make things up as you go along? I dared not read on for fear that the rest of the article could be of equivalent distorted drivel. Unfortunately I glanced through it and found my concerns to have been justified.

Kind Regards

[theoriginalLongsider]

You have your embellishers as we do ours.

I think the key words in your piece were...."....You have your embellishers as we do ours..."

[Will]

Anyone going on the 12:35 train to Burnley Central ?

It's gonna be close to kick off, get in at 1.00pm,

but it's not to far from the ground and will be great in the escort ?

[roversWASmylife]

Burnley have around 600 tickets left for the game on Sunday.

According to the L.E.T.

[Linny8]

Anyone going on the 12:35 train to Burnley Central ?

It's gonna be close to kick off, get in at 1.00pm,

but it's not to far from the ground and will be great in the escort ?

I might be joining you on that train but its going to be a last minute thing depending on how rough I am from the night before but hopefully I might get a couple of jars and then jump on the train .

[thenodrog]

Can anybody rem the last time we played at t'turf what was the name of our 'theme' music that was played as the teams came out?