[Archived] Newcastle United 0 Blackburn Rovers 1

[Presty On Tour]

He would have been if he had been booked.

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i thought if he was booked he would have hit the 10 yellow cards mark and thats an automatic 2 game susspension from immediate effect???

[Brownie]

Whilst being a huge fan of mark Hughes and his modern style approach to fitness and team preparation and acknowledging Souness is behind the times with this.

we shouldn't forget that Hughes wouldn't be having the success he is enjoying was it not for a succession of wonderful signings made by GS

Friedel, Neill, Todd, Gray, Tugay, Pederson, Reid, Dickov are all crucial to Hughes success and were picked up for a combined figure of less than £6 million.

Not many managers could achieve such success in the transfer market so I'd think a little before launching into a scathing attack on the man who re-established us a Premiership club.

[S15]

Whilst being a huge fan of mark Hughes and his modern style approach to fitness and team preparation and acknowledging Souness is behind the times with this.

we shouldn't forget that Hughes wouldn't be having the success he is enjoying was it not for a succession of wonderful signings made by GS

Friedel, Neill, Todd, Gray, Tugay, Pederson, Reid, Dickov are all crucial to Hughes success and were picked up for a combined figure of less than £6 million.

Not many managers could achieve such success in the transfer market so I'd think a little before launching into a scathing attack on the man who re-established us a Premiership club.

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Good shout, though would we be calling them ''wonderful signings'' had Souness had stayed?

Considering I think we'd currently be in the Championship, I think not.

[Manchester Blue]

i thought if he was booked he would have hit the 10 yellow cards mark and thats an automatic 2 game susspension from immediate effect???

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Suspension comes into effect after 7 days.

[stuwilky]

i thought if he was booked he would have hit the 10 yellow cards mark and thats an automatic 2 game susspension from immediate effect???

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7 days on a cumulative suspension

[Rovermatt]

However I suspect that £5m will make up for the fact that he's an abject failure.  It's not as if he cares about Newcastle any more than he ever did for us!

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Are you referring to Rovers or Celtic now?

Edited January 24, 2006 by Rovermatt

[CAPT KAYOS]

Coming back to the goal - just one aspect that nobody appears to have picked up upon and worth considering and that's the Ref's decision and IMO my reasoning for justifying why I think the goal was given.

As we all know the Norwegian is quite adept at heading a ball and in most circumstances would probably have met it fair and square on his bonce, however Bowyers foot was at head level when 'the hand of Ped' intervened which I feel MGP was aware of hence the reaction. Normally though in circumstances the Ref would have blown for high kicking yet there was nothing for this - if he had blown his whistle what decision would he have given? Penalty?(yes) freekick - where from as it would have been direct and on the line?

Or then again he could have just missed it ....... what a shame

[Ianrally]

Whilst being a huge fan of mark Hughes and his modern style approach to fitness and team preparation and acknowledging Souness is behind the times with this.

we shouldn't forget that Hughes wouldn't be having the success he is enjoying was it not for a succession of wonderful signings made by GS

Friedel, Neill, Todd, Gray, Tugay, Pederson, Reid, Dickov are all crucial to Hughes success and were picked up for a combined figure of less than £6 million.

Not many managers could achieve such success in the transfer market so I'd think a little before launching into a scathing attack on the man who re-established us a Premiership club.

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As Shillito quite rightly says, there are some good points you make there Brownie. However I feel that all those players you have mentioned have made great strides forward under the Huges regime, especially regarding fittness levels. I don't think that they would have been in this situation had Souness stayed nor more to the point his backroom staff like Saunders etc.

The problems we had with players fittness are now echoed at St.James' Park, and the Toon Army are berrating Souness on this aspect along with him playing certain players out of position. Seem to have heard the same moans somewhere much closer to home before don't you think?

[den]

however Bowyers foot was at head level when 'the hand of Ped' intervened which I feel MGP was aware of hence the reaction. Normally though in circumstances the Ref would have blown for high kicking yet there was nothing for this -  if he had blown his whistle what decision would he have given? Penalty?(yes) freekick - where from as it would have been direct and on the line?

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Indirect free kick for dangerous play, taken 10 yards out from the goal line.

Edited January 23, 2006 by den

[stuwilky]

What have I missed?

If the incident on MGP was a freekick for us, it would have been a penalty.

[den]

Does that read better now I've editted?

[stuwilky]

Does that read better now I've editted?

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Just a tad.

[den]

Good.

[Jordan]

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WILL YOU SCORE A GOAL FOR ME?,

SHEFKI - KU-KU-CHEE, WILL YOU SCORE A GOAL FOR ME?

WWWWWWWWWIIIIIIITTTTHHHHHHHHH YOUR LEFT, WITH YOUR RIGHT, WIH YOUR HEAD OR WITH YOUR KNEE,

SHEFKI - KU-KU-CHEE WILL YOU SCORE A GOAL FOR ME?

[andyrovers]

Lets all do the Ku-chee

Lets all do the Ku-chee

Na Na Na Na

[RevidgeBlue]

Whilst being a huge fan of mark Hughes and his modern style approach to fitness and team preparation and acknowledging Souness is behind the times with this.

we shouldn't forget that Hughes wouldn't be having the success he is enjoying was it not for a succession of wonderful signings made by GS

Friedel, Neill, Todd, Gray, Tugay, Pederson, Reid, Dickov are all crucial to Hughes success and were picked up for a combined figure of less than £6 million.

Not many managers could achieve such success in the transfer market so I'd think a little before launching into a scathing attack on the man who re-established us a Premiership club.

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Not a bad shout but then if you dip your hand in the barrel of apples often enough you're bound to get a few good ones on the law of averages!.

For the players you've mentioned above you've also got a succession of acquisitions ranging from the downright disastrous - Grabbi, Amoruso, De Pedro to players who haven't been a success Ferguson Emerton Yorke, Sukur, Yordi, Gresko, Matteo, Johansson to players who never figured Mahon, Yeldell, Greer and a player who turned out to have a serious medical condition - Thompson

At Newcastle few people would deny that Parker and Owen are good signings, (albeit players anyone would sign if they had the funding) but against that you've got Boumsong and Luque for 18m.

Hardly inspired management in either case.

[Flopsy]

to be fair - Yordi was on loan, and Gresko was very good up until Mills managed to break his leg. Yorke scored ten goals in teh first season with us. Not compleatly useless

no defence for the others though

[McClarky]

Its always a delight to win away with a dodgy goal, perhaps it does even itself out after all. In my view any player would try and put the ball in the net and then leave it to the ref to decide if it was legal or not and thats what MGP did. Just like Maradona back in '86.

The talk in the Strawberry after the game was that Souness had to go and go now but maybe Newcastle can't afford to get rid and will maybe wait to the end of the season.

[Eddie]

Mahon played quite a bit for us while on loan during the promotion campaign and was unlucky that he was here while Duff was. He has done quite well for Wigan this season.

Also think Amoruso is always given a lot more flack than he deserves. Not saying he is quality, but he was at times our best player.

[G Somerset Rover]

To be fair to souey with regards to Emerton as a "bad" signing, half of europe were after the lad and it was deemed quite a coup when we got him. Everyone thought he was going to be an explosive winger...pitty that!

[Eddie]

I always thought he was considered the Beckham type of player to balance out the right side as Souey didn't think you could play with two wingers. I think Emerton has been hard done by and is actually a good player, for that amount he hasn't been that bad of a signing and I still think if he could just regularly produce the goods he'll turn into a good signing. He's certainly been more useful in recent times then he has previously.

[S15]

I always thought he was considered the Beckham type of player to balance out the right side as Souey didn't think you could play with two wingers. I think Emerton has been hard done by and is actually a good player, for that amount he hasn't been that bad of a signing and I still think if he could just regularly produce the goods he'll turn into a good signing. He's certainly been more useful in recent times then he has previously.

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Considering Emerton is probably a high earner, I wonder if Rovers will consider offering him a new contract at any point this year, as next January he is free to talk to other clubs.

I can see him down the road at Bolton personally, as I'm unsure as to whether he warrants the outlay.

[benton]

Saw MGP in Starbucks in Manchester yesterday.

Considered shaking him by the 'offending' hand but decided to leave him in piece.....

And before anyone asks - his bird (unfortunately) was not with him

[S15]

Saw MGP in Starbucks in Manchester yesterday.

Considered shaking him by the 'offending' hand but decided to leave him in piece.....

And before anyone asks - his bird (unfortunately) was not with him 

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Anymore great stories?

[USRoverME]

Checked quickly, but couldn't find a reference in the thread....

I know MGPs goal was very similar to the Galagher goal (same end of the pitch and all)

But I've got this ManU supporter bugging me about that "sham of a goal", can anyone remind me of this match... didn't ManU score a similar dodgy goal for a winner against us very late in a match within the last year or so, anyone remember when, or what details I'm confusing, because I can't remember, but I'd like to give this guy some greif right back.