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Dunno.... just a wild guess based on nothing in particular.

Reports that Mike Ashley doesn't rate him, and he was a Shepherd appointment......... whisper it quietly cos Ashley has been reported to rate Mark Hughes highly though :unsure:

SSSSHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!!! You never know who is reading on this site. The BIG clubs have their spies planted posing as Rovers fans. For all you know I could be one of them, or even you Theno! How does anyone know you are not scouting Rovers players on behalf of Lancashire Utd? ;)

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Today's Sun reckon's you're right.

I just don't like southgate as a manager. Doing wonders to send them down though.

Nicko any info on Cov takeover? I notice that The Ricoh arena owners have all but dismissed the, ex-Chairman, Geoff Robinson's offer. Is it Ranson's club now? or is Admin still a possibility?

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FWIW, after the Rovers match on the weekend, I managed to find the Saprissa game on Telemundo (spanish-language channel) Got to see 10-15 mins of the match before Borges was subbed out.

Lad looks tall to me, but to be honest, could get no opinion on his skills, he touched the ball infrequently, but was the central point of a decent string of quick passing. However, in general, the standard of play was horrendously low, and the pitch was terrible (granted, the hurricane Noel did just float past that area of the world). I saw a string of tackles (really bearhugs and shirt pulls) that were so blatant and ugly.... yet no cards shown. Then one guy slides in a tad late on a mud field they called a pitch, catches the guy's plant foot, and its a yellow... was very odd. Even the MLS reffing isn't THAT bad. Saprissa were down 1-0 when Borges came out, but the match was so horrible, I had no desire to cause my eyes to rot any further....

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I just don't like southgate as a manager. Doing wonders to send them down though.

Nicko any info on Cov takeover? I notice that The Ricoh arena owners have all but dismissed the, ex-Chairman, Geoff Robinson's offer. Is it Ranson's club now? or is Admin still a possibility?

Ranson is the favourite by default.

However - I am told - that would mean administration sometime soon.

Probably when they are ten points clear of the bottom three.

Watch this space.

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Not that makes much of a difference, they still have to get the points. It's all in their heads i guess.

Thanks Nicko. Bets not looking to hot at the moment.

If they lose the points and their manager - who would then take some of their best players because they are skint - I would suggest your bet is looking very lively.

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Poor Hutchings, he was doomed from the start. He's a coach not a manager and never had a chance especially after Heskey got injured.

Did Brain Clough write a chapter in his autobiography called "What the average chariman knows about football" and left it blank? Someone did. It's a fair assessment if you ask me. Recently we've had Les Reed doing nothing at Charlton, Sammy Lee lasting a fortnight at Bolton, McClaren with England, and a good few I can't think of who were assistants and when given the nod failed miserably. It happened twice to us; Harford and Brian Kidd (even Fergie said he'd be no good as a manager). So why do the people in charge keep hiring these people? I've said before that a coach is a different animal than a manager, they need many of the same skills but a manager has different attributes.

Who's up next? Southgate? Billy Davis? Bruce?

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You can't knock a chairman for giving the 'other half' of a successful partnership the chance to see if he can go it alone.

Both Bolton and Wigan gave their guys a go - and decided they were not up to it quickly.

If they had overlooked them they would never have known. They probably got it right on both counts.

If you make a mistake and correct it quickly that's good decision-making.

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You can't knock a chairman for giving the 'other half' of a successful partnership the chance to see if he can go it alone.

Both Bolton and Wigan gave their guys a go - and decided they were not up to it quickly.

If they had overlooked them they would never have known. They probably got it right on both counts.

If you make a mistake and correct it quickly that's good decision-making.

Not if their correcting is too late and it leads ultimately to relegation it isn't.

They were poor decisions and everyone but the two chairmen in question at the time knew it. If they had looked further afield they could have appealed to more tempting targets than they can in the relegation zone which is where they ended up when they had to replace these assistants who got lucky.

At least Sammy Lee was untested...Hutchings had already replaced Jewell once and failed abysmally.

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Not if their correcting is too late and it leads ultimately to relegation it isn't.

They were poor decisions and everyone but the two chairmen in question at the time knew it. If they had looked further afield they could have appealed to more tempting targets than they can in the relegation zone which is where they ended up when they had to replace these assistants who got lucky.

At least Sammy Lee was untested...Hutchings had already replaced Jewell once and failed abysmally.

The problem is most appointments in football are something of a gamble. There are very few managers with proven track records and most of those currently fill the spots at the biggest clubs around. Look at us, our past two managers have been calculated risks. Souness had a mediocre record, having had some success, although his only experience in English football had been pretty much a failure. Say what you like about him he was the right man for the job at the time of his appointment. Hughes had no experience at club level, he had done good things for Wales but had then seemingly undone all of the good work (or at least overseen a poor period). Both appointments turned out well, but had they gone wrong someone could have easily turned around and said that it was obvious to everyone else but the board that these two were totally unsuited to it.

I don't think I would have appointed either Lee or Hutchings, but then I haven't worked with them. The chairmen of the two clubs might have been very impressed by the work they had done and having spoken to the two managers who they replaced who both did a good job (I can only assume that they did this) they decided they were the right men. Everyone always goes on about how continuity in football is the best plan, I know many on here have already said that they would like to see Bowen take charge if Hughes left, I can understand why both chairmen did what they did.

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Everyone always goes on about how continuity in football is the best plan, I know many on here have already said that they would like to see Bowen take charge if Hughes left, I can understand why both chairmen did what they did.

Everyone? I don't think that is true that everyone says that. Or even if they do then replacing a manager with his assistant should not considered "continuity". That has been shown to be nothing of the sort on many occasions.

Many people believe a clean break is best after a successful manager is the best way to go. Rovers managed that with Hughes,,,a very different proposition from Souness. Likewise before him Souness was a different kettle of fish from Kidd. Then again Souness is a different kind of beast to almost all managers...

If Hughes did leave we would need someone to be able to be impose their own style and authority on the place. Bowen could be just that man for all I or anyone else know.

I can understand the appointment of Lee (but still thought it wasn't the right appointment to replace such a talismanic figure of Allardyce) but to appoint Hutchings to replace Jewell after it was already tried and failed abjectly before was a poor choice. This isn't hindsight...most people said it at the time. Then almost everybody said it after his first signing turned out to be Titus Bramble...

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Dont forget that if a manager leaves and doesn't immediately take his backroom team then when another manager is appointed he usually brings his own men leading usually to a compensation pay out to the other club. Also sizable chunks of redundancy then need to be paid in order to clear out the old backroom team........ who probably then go and join the former manager with a nice wedge in their back sack. Complicated? Certainly but another good business reason for promoting the assistant manager to the top job.

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Who's up next? Southgate? Billy Davis? Bruce?

Bruce will be safe for the season i would imagine. Given that Carson Yeoung is taking his time with the takeover.

Billy Davies has nothing to worry about, they were promoted the 1st year of their 3 year plan which has slightly hampered them.

Southgate is awful.

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