[Archived] Nicko's Thread

[nicko]

Thanks for all the nuggets, Nicko. I've read everyone of these 272 pages--this thread long ago has taken on a life of its' own.

I'd like to ask you a quick one: The was a note in todays' Guardian regarding the re-appearance of Sir Fat Fredy Shepard.

Bolton, Leeds and Derby are all named as possible spots for this fat clown. Are Rovers ' safe from his fat little hands?

thanks.

You have no fears on that score.

[modes98]

But employ one of your own.

Sorry Nicko but your wrong on this one.

Shearer maybe a good manager in the future but not now.

The best man for the job at this moment in time has to get the job. Nevermind who that be it has to be them.

Last time it was the best englishman and this time it has to be the best man full stop.

It is one of Jose, O'Neill or Scolari. Any other will be a mistake in my opinion.

[Mozzer]

the only england manager i would consider good enough is harry redkanpp-but his nephew his frank lampard and he wouldnt drop him(lampard needs it)..

one thing ive always admired scotland for(well since walter smith) is their passion, team work and hard work-something england dont have..

time to build for 2010 i say..dropping the likes of lampard and giving the new crop a chance..ie bentley, and ashley young..

[Tim Southampton Rover]

It's a bit bizarre for me to say who should be the next England boss...but.

Don't go down the foreign line. Even Capello would be a mistake.

I gave up on Scotland when we brought in Vogts. Look at the transformation under Walter Smith and Alex McLeish, two averge bosses really but true Scots.

If you are going to fail at least fail with your own people. If you come up short do it with your own people.

Alan Shearer is a born leader. He will have respect and also has knowledge. Stick an experienced man with him and it will work.

You have to represent your country - not just take a cushy job.

I was proud of Scotland last Satirday because we showed passion and desire. I was sick we lost. I haven;t felt like that for years. Take defeat and learn from it.

But employ one of your own.

I think we can learn from Croatia off the field as well as on it. They employed Slaven Bilic because he was well respected by pros and fans and actually shows the love and passion he has for his country.

Shearer is the man we need.

[tcj_jones]

Nicko, passion is one thing, but to appoint a man with absolutely no managerial experience would be a disaster.

Shearer will command instant respect, but I just don't think he is ready.

I said all the way back when we got Eriksson that we should bring Sir Bobby back. If he weren't set to retire, I'd be tempted to say it again.

[nicko]

Sorry Nicko but your wrong on this one.

Shearer maybe a good manager in the future but not now.

The best man for the job at this moment in time has to get the job. Nevermind who that be it has to be them.

Last time it was the best englishman and this time it has to be the best man full stop.

It is one of Jose, O'Neill or Scolari. Any other will be a mistake in my opinion.

Jose Mourinho wants to go to Real Madrid. It would be a bad decision to pick him. He is, sorry to say, something of a myth. Great club manager, but he had more money than anyone else to spend.

Martin O'Neill is a total myth. His fan club in the press will support him which tells you nmore about them than him.

Scolari can't even speak the language.

Give it to an Englishman. Build a staff round him if you want, but the figurehead should breathe a bit of fire and know what it means.

[nicko]

Nicko, passion is one thing, but to appoint a man with absolutely no managerial experience would be a disaster.

Shearer will command instant respect, but I just don't think he is ready.

I said all the way back when we got Eriksson that we should bring Sir Bobby back. If he weren't set to retire, I'd be tempted to say it again.

In international football passion is everything.

Get the best players out there, put them in a recognisable shape and get them running around like lions.

Simple game really.

[Tim Southampton Rover]

Nicko, passion is one thing, but to appoint a man with absolutely no managerial experience would be a disaster.

Was Hughes a disaster for Wales? Was he a disaster for Blackburn having no club experience? Is Bilic a disaster for Croatia? Was Klinsmann a disaster for Germany? Was Rijkaard a disaster for Holland when he got them playing some of the best football and getting to Semi's?

There is no reason why Shearer cannot be a success, especially when compared to every manager since 1966.

Shearer doesn't need to manage to have experience. He represented his country 60+ times and in total has played around 600+ games in his professional career. If he doesn't have any experience from that then i'm obviously on level par with Shearer when it comes to experience because I haven't managed either.

[nicko]

By the way, a small point off at a tangent...

How good are these quotes from St.Johnstone about Owen Coyle?

http://www.football365.co.za/news/coyle_ca...11107232612.php

What a good chairman...

[tcj_jones]

It's a commendable sentiment, but a little naive, IMO. Eleven players wearing an England shirt, playing for their country should be passionate enough, in theory. The England team just don't have that kind of passion, and I don't think one man will change that. A no-nonsense manager with conviction will get the best out of our players - somebody who can make the big decisions. Capello is my man for the job. Proven top quality international manager, ruthless and with a fine record.

[philipl]

Coyle sounds like a prospect for Ewood if Hughes moves on a couple of years from now.

If we get Shearer in charge, at least the England squad will know how to creosote a fence- some passion that.

[Mozzer]

we need someone who can speak english..who is willing to give other players a chance-not picking the same old rubbish..

to be honest, i dont know who is out there that would be good enough, or that would make decisions that need to be made ie dropping lampard...

[nicko]

It's a commendable sentiment, but a little naive, IMO. Eleven players wearing an England shirt, playing for their country should be passionate enough, in theory. The England team just don't have that kind of passion, and I don't think one man will change that. A no-nonsense manager with conviction will get the best out of our players - somebody who can make the big decisions. Capello is my man for the job. Proven top quality international manager, ruthless and with a fine record.

There has already been a reality check here and there is going to be a bigger one.

England's players are NOT world class...and the next batch are even further from that level.

You are going to need a team of triers and battlers, no harm with that at all.

And if that is the case you are going to need someone to rally and inspire them.

By the way, do you think Mourinho or Scolari would want to coach this lot? The only way they would is if they are over-paid.

I repeat, get one of your own. It's your best chance.

[Tim Southampton Rover]

Gary Lineker, Ian Wright and Alan Shearer - They can be the BBC Managerial Committee who can replace McClaren.

[nicko]

Coyle sounds like a prospect for Ewood if Hughes moves on a couple of years from now.

The Coyle man for Rovers? Now there's a thought...

[tcj_jones]

Was Hughes a disaster for Wales? Was he a disaster for Blackburn having no club experience? Is Bilic a disaster for Croatia? Was Klinsmann a disaster for Germany? Was Rijkaard a disaster for Holland when he got them playing some of the best football and getting to Semi's?

There is no reason why Shearer cannot be a success, especially when compared to every manager since 1966.

Shearer doesn't need to manage to have experience. He represented his country 60+ times and in total has played around 600+ games in his professional career. If he doesn't have any experience from that then i'm obviously on level par with Shearer when it comes to experience because I haven't managed either.

That's a fair point. I guess it's a matter of personal opinion, but I feel England needs a proven manager right now. We are in a crisis.

There are so many instances of an ex-club player, or national player being appointed and failing.

BRING BACK SIR BOBBY!

[Tim Southampton Rover]

I just think we need to have a fresh start. Get rid of the Sven/McClaren era and re-focus with a brand new start with a brand new team with different ideas and use the next couple of years to transform our national side.

[nicko]

I just think we need to have a fresh start. Get rid of the Sven/McClaren era and re-focus with a brand new start with a brand new team with different ideas and use the next couple of years to transform our national side.

The trouble is...you just saw the future.

Carson is the best young keeper. Richards is the top young defender. Lescott is a rising star.

Take Beckham, Campbell and James out of the picture...what is left?

There have been poroblems looming for a long time because of a lack of talent coming through. This WAS your chance and it's gone.

I have to sress I'm not gloating here. The difference between Scotland and England lately is that we know we are limited.

You have just found out.

[tcj_jones]

There has already been a reality check here and there is going to be a bigger one.

England's players are NOT world class...and the next batch are even further from that level.

You are going to need a team of triers and battlers, no harm with that at all.

And if that is the case you are going to need someone to rally and inspire them.

By the way, do you think Mourinho or Scolari would want to coach this lot? The only way they would is if they are over-paid.

I repeat, get one of your own. It's your best chance.

I would suggest that every one of our players on the pitch tonight is better than those from Croatia, and the vast, vast majority of the world's nations, for that matter. A squad including the likes of Owen, Rooney, Gerrard, Beckham, Terry, Ferdinand, A. Cole, J. Cole, G. Neville, Hargreaves, Crouch, Barry... is more than capable of winning major international competitions.

[Hasta]

The Coyle man for Rovers? Now there's a thought...

No way. All he's done is manage a pub side in a mickey mouse league with no fans. And also manage St johnstone.

[nicko]

I would suggest that every one of our players on the pitch tonight is better than those from Croatia, and the vast, vast majority of the world's nations, for that matter. A squad including the likes of Owen, Rooney, Gerrard, Beckham, Terry, Ferdinand, A. Cole, J. Cole, G. Neville, Hargreaves, Crouch, Barry... is more than capable of winning major international competitions.

But EIGHT of those did not start.

Owen is past tense, Rooney gets injured too much, Beckham is in America, Neville is getting on a bit, Hargreaves is over-rated.

How many good games has Gerrard had for England?

I will give you Ashley Cole, Terry and Ferdinand are a huge loss, but it happens.

Joe Cole - average. Crouch - ok. Barry - a Premier League player but no real star.

[nicko]

No way. All he's done is manage a pub side in a mickey mouse league with no fans. And also manage St johnstone.

I said it was a thought. The good thing about this is that you can revisit in two years and see who was right...it's half of the fun.

[tcj_jones]

Talking of Carson, I hope people don't jump on the lads back. He made a shocking mistake tonight and there is no saving grace whatsoever, but they man is an exceptional keeper and will wear the number one jersey for England for years to come. I would pick him over Robinson, James, Green and Foster.

I agree with you, Tim. We need a new approach. With there being three years until another major compeition, the emphasis has to be on recruiting new talent. But, even in 2010, the likes of Gerrard, Lampard, Barry, Hargreaves, Terry, Ferdinand, Rooney and Owen will be far from over the hill. This is a pivitol moment in English football. The FA have to make the right decision.

[tcj_jones]

But EIGHT of those did not start.

Owen is past tense, Rooney gets injured too much, Beckham is in America, Neville is getting on a bit, Hargreaves is over-rated.

How many good games has Gerrard had for England?

I will give you Ashley Cole, Terry and Ferdinand are a huge loss, but it happens.

Joe Cole - average. Crouch - ok. Barry - a Premier League player but no real star.

True, my post was somewhat confusing.

I'd still suggest that all XI players on the pitch tonight were vastly superior to their opponents.

Owen has proven, since returning from injury, that he is back on form; Rooney - "injured too much" - come now, you're clutching at straws a little there; Becks created our second, as he so often does; Neville is still TOP quality - any United fan will tell you that; Hargreaves might be over-rated, but he's done the business for England and United of late. As for Gerrard, well I agree with you there. Although he and Crouch were perhaps the only saving graces of a dour performance, he does not perform on the big stage. It's baffling when you consider what he does for Liverpool both in the Premier League and the Champions League.

[Mozzer]

the new manager needs to build a team around terry, gerrard, ferdinand, joe cole, rooney, and ashley cole..players like agbonlahor, steven taylor, bentley, ashley young, walcott really need to start pushing to get into the england main squad...