[Archived] Nicko's Thread

[bellamy11]

Watch Jan criticise JAL the next time he says something negative about David Dunn. Given the amount of money she seems to have, she should be living in something a little bit more upmarket than a glass house.

[Jan]

Watch Jan criticise JAL the next time he says something negative about David Dunn. Given the amount of money she seems to have, she should be living in something a little bit more upmarket than a glass house.

Now let's dissect (that means take apart) the above nonsense.

One set of criticism (mine) is repeated to a greater extent by about 60% of the board. One set (JAL's) is repeated by JAL and the other 2 or three who have lost their girlfriend to Dunny.

[bellamy11]

Now let's dissect (that means take apart) the above nonsense.

One set of criticism (mine) is repeated to a greater extent by about 60% of the board. One set (JAL's) is repeated by JAL and the other 2 or three who have lost their girlfriend to Dunny.

Now let me respond (that means reply) to what you said.

I personally don't agree with what much of JAL says. However, I also don't agree with your theory that people only criticise Dunny because they are jealous that a local boy has done well. I just think it's laughable how you claim he has an agenda when you continually (that means on more than one occasion) do the same thing with other people i.e. Souness, Abbey, Pedersen. You also go about it in a far more babyish way than JAL, who is articulate if a little misguided.

[Dunnfc]

Nicko - Could you possably shed any more light on the Benni McCarthy episode?

and do you think Defoe could be axed by the new guy Ramos?

I thought this was going to be quiet this window, things are now getting a little bit hotter!

[artemorethanlabore]

I can't say I agree on the whole pedersen-is-useless-and-the-reason-of-all-misery trend and I think its worth taking another look at the game against Newcastle. Very good run on Tugays brilliant pass and a decent effort on goal and a part of the Tugay goal, making the initial pass at roberts and after that keeping wide and onside if a pass or a deflection should come his way. As several others have mentioned, he works hard, is certainly good defensively for a winger and makes Warnock play better. In the matches I've seen in the past month, missed passes from tugay and mokoena have played a far larger part of the instability in the side.

[gumboots]

People are whingeing about Pedersen again but nearly everyone thought that the side looked a lot more balanced when he came on at the weekend. He's not playing well; he knows he's not playing well; he seems to be working hard to improve the situation. he narrowly missed the other day; he made the run for Tugay's goal and didn't cost us a goal going the other way although the way we were defending he could have done. I don't get it. When you set high standards as he has in the past then obviously you're going to fall below them sometimes. The fact that this dip in form has gone on for quite a while is a concern but still doesn't mean that we should sell a potential match winner to a close rival, because that's where he'd go. A transfer would probably give him the confidence he seems to be lacking at the moment. He'd start scoring and we'd be left moaning unless there was someone better brought in, and, if there were that many better there wouldn't be so many clubs interested in Morten. It took us ages to sort out our team when we lost Duff. Morten is not the same kind of winger but he does offer us an outlet and possibilities on the left that others don't. If Mark Hughes decides he has to go then I'll accept it becuase I trust his judgement but I won't be joining those saying get rid myself any time soon.

[Dunnfc]

People are whingeing about Pedersen again but nearly everyone thought that the side looked a lot more balanced when he came on at the weekend. He's not playing well; he knows he's not playing well; he seems to be working hard to improve the situation. he narrowly missed the other day; he made the run for Tugay's goal and didn't cost us a goal going the other way although the way we were defending he could have done. I don't get it. When you set high standards as he has in the past then obviously you're going to fall below them sometimes. The fact that this dip in form has gone on for quite a while is a concern but still doesn't mean that we should sell a potential match winner to a close rival, because that's where he'd go. A transfer would probably give him the confidence he seems to be lacking at the moment. He'd start scoring and we'd be left moaning unless there was someone better brought in, and, if there were that many better there wouldn't be so many clubs interested in Morten. It took us ages to sort out our team when we lost Duff. Morten is not the same kind of winger but he does offer us an outlet and possibilities on the left that others don't. If Mark Hughes decides he has to go then I'll accept it becuase I trust his judgement but I won't be joining those saying get rid myself any time soon.

Agree with you Gummy 100%

[thenodrog]

People are whingeing about Pedersen again but nearly everyone thought that the side looked a lot more balanced when he came on at the weekend.

He wasn't the worst left midfielder v the Mags thats for sure cos Dunny was embarrassingly poor. But another factor to take into account on that point was that Sam took off Sub left back Stephen Carr for Viduka leaving MGP absolutely loads of space.

[Mozzer]

this "big" signing (that might happen)-has nicko even said its a striker??..

[American Rover12]

People are whingeing about Pedersen again but nearly everyone thought that the side looked a lot more balanced when he came on at the weekend. He's not playing well; he knows he's not playing well; he seems to be working hard to improve the situation. he narrowly missed the other day; he made the run for Tugay's goal and didn't cost us a goal going the other way although the way we were defending he could have done. I don't get it. When you set high standards as he has in the past then obviously you're going to fall below them sometimes. The fact that this dip in form has gone on for quite a while is a concern but still doesn't mean that we should sell a potential match winner to a close rival, because that's where he'd go. A transfer would probably give him the confidence he seems to be lacking at the moment. He'd start scoring and we'd be left moaning unless there was someone better brought in, and, if there were that many better there wouldn't be so many clubs interested in Morten. It took us ages to sort out our team when we lost Duff. Morten is not the same kind of winger but he does offer us an outlet and possibilities on the left that others don't. If Mark Hughes decides he has to go then I'll accept it becuase I trust his judgement but I won't be joining those saying get rid myself any time soon.

I agree with the bolded area. He has been in a slump and I took my shots at him, but much to my pleasure, he does appear to be working at getting back into form, more so now then t other points this season.

[92er]

On Radio Rovers at the weekend MH said that MGP had lost some confidence and that he was going to some one on one work as he had done with Benni as he was sure it would have agreat effect on someone who is so important to the team.

[ABBEY]

Now let me respond (that means reply) to what you said.

I personally don't agree with what much of JAL says. However, I also don't agree with your theory that people only criticise Dunny because they are jealous that a local boy has done well. I just think it's laughable how you claim he has an agenda when you continually (that means on more than one occasion) do the same thing with other people i.e. Souness, Abbey, Pedersen. You also go about it in a far more babyish way than JAL, who is articulate if a little misguided.

****abbey pats you on the back!*****

[USRoverME]

we don't have to play with a left sided midfielder.

Anyone else get a chuckle out of this?

[S15]

The thing is with Pedersen, which people don't seem to realise is, he isn't out of form at all; He is playing at the exact same standard he has done since the day he signed for us.

He has never 'played' well. He isn't a good 'player' really. He's slow, with little skill, and has never gone past a man.

What MGP has is an ability to score good goals. That's all he can do. I have no grudge against him what so ever. I don't hate the guy, for me he can play every week if he's scoring a goal every three games or so. The thing is what is happening now was always ineviatable, the goals have dried up, which makes him a liabilty.

So, IMO it is tough to play MGP and McCarthy in the same team unless both are 'firing,' as both offer little but their goals. Thing is McCarthy will always get more, so MGP may well find it tough to get back in the team.

[John]

Wonder if Hughes thinks he is a good player.....

[S15]

Wonder if Hughes thinks he is a good player.....

His recent team sheets might answer your question.

[John]

Hughes has always said Pedersen is an important player for us.

Wonder if he has been lying.....

[stuwilky]

His recent team sheets might answer your question.

I seem to recall a new contract in the not to distant past....

[Whyoy]

Has anyone else noticed that Warnock seems to be almost international class when Pederson plays but is almost average when he dosen't.

Definately he was missed on Saturday until coming on as sub. The comments on Mr Dunn's performance in the wide left midfield role shows that it isn't a easy role to fill and that other than Pederson we don't have anyone else that can effectively play in that position

[savage90]

He has never 'played' well. He isn't a good 'player' really. He's slow, with little skill, and has never gone past a man.

What MGP has is an ability to score good goals. That's all he can do. I have no grudge against him what so ever. I don't hate the guy, for me he can play every week if he's scoring a goal every three games or so. The thing is what is happening now was always ineviatable, the goals have dried up, which makes him a liabilty.

So, IMO it is tough to play MGP and McCarthy in the same team unless both are 'firing,' as both offer little but their goals. Thing is McCarthy will always get more, so MGP may well find it tough to get back in the team.

His recent team sheets might answer your question.

Morten has plenty of skill, for which he has become reknowned for in the premiership, what is skill to you? step overs and maradonna turns? Mortens might not be Ronaldo but he can produce deadly crosses, fantastic postitoning and awareness, a brilliant fisrt touch, superb in the air, great at finishing and isnt afraid to have a shot on goal, is this not skill? Plus is the ability to score ''good goals'' not skill? The fact is, morten is a very skilled player with unique abilities which we all know he's got. Yet havnt seen as much this season because he IS off form, for whatever the reason be, Hughes is obviously aware of this, hence the extra sessions. To say Morten has never been in form is unfair. When mortens in the team he offers so much more than the odd special goal, his defensive work seems to go unnoticed with some people, he is far from 'slow' off the ball, he is brilliant in the air, covers well for warnock, and offers the team superb balance when in the team, which can be missed when Dunn is on the left. It was these skills that earned him links to Man Utd and Tottenham, however not many teams would look at him based on his recent performances, yet you say he isnt off form, he's never been in form, utter rubbish mate.

And to follow that up with ''His recent team sheets might answer your question'' is an even bigger load of crap. So if a manager doesnt pick a player for a few games, then you assume that it means the manager thinks he's a bad player. Try telling Hughes that Morten is a bad player, and im sure he'll put you in your place.

Morten has been off form but im sure it wont be too long before he's a regular on the team sheet again. Morten will shine in the second half of the season.

[S15]

I'm sorry but he has never ever played well over a period for us.

Skill? His main attributes are delivery and finishing, and they are highly, HIGHLY inconsistent.

Hughes knows exactly what Pedersen brings to the team, and that's why as soon as it's clear he can't hit a cows arse with a banjo, he's out the team.

MGP falls into the catagory of player (for some reason) with the fans where they disillusion themselves and tell themselfs he has played well, or he can do things he can't. Every club has players who can get away with murder in that respect, he is one of ours.

Put it this way, if we signed MGP for some of the rediculous prices people on here put to him (£7m-£15m) and he put in over 3 years the performence MGP, he would be murdered.

Andy Cole was a much more effective player for us, yet every week had the boo brigade whinging, and that was purely due to his reputation and price tag. Even when he was scoring, it wasn't enough. MGP, for some reason is the polar opposite; Maybe if he left and signed for someone for a decent some of money you'd hear a more accurate assessment of him, as their fans wouldn't be impressed. Some of you will never see it, but it doesn't matter. Like I say, I'm delighted if he's scoring, but he's not, and hasn't been for a while.

Therefore, he is useless.

[joey_big_nose]

I'm sorry but he has never ever played well over a period for us.

Skill? His main attributes are delivery and finishing, and they are highly, HIGHLY inconsistent.

Hughes knows exactly what Pedersen brings to the team, and that's why as soon as it's clear he can't hit a cows arse with a banjo, he's out the team.

I think thats unfair. He was good for us the second half of 2004-2005 and the second half of 2005-2006. Last year he had a few good performances but in patches, again mostly towards the end of the season.

But largely I agree with your post.

[artemorethanlabore]

Haha, yeah, mgp gets away with murder and noone is critical of his performances. Do you listen to yourself?

[mattjansen]

Therefore, he is useless.

Its quite hard to call him useless dont you think?!

[they_think_its_all_rover]

Nicko, is it true Cardiff could be going into administration?