[Archived] Paul Ince Gone

[Damage]

And on recent performances bombed the club out too.

Tell you what mate .... you really are a class A "COCK"!

You arer the epitome of arrogance ...................... you still hold to a position that has been proven beyond doubt to be fckn thick!

Why has this happened? Were you abused as a child? do you have problems about your identify?

Are you confused about sexulayt or you origin?

Probably none of these .......... but i do know that you are the most patehetic person on this mb.

Sorry but the word "COCK" springs to mind!

Tell you what, the name Waggy also has a ring of COCK to it at the moment!

Pathethic!

[AussieinUk]

Tell you what mate .... you really are a class A "COCK"!

You arer the epitome of arrogance ...................... you still hold to a position that has been proven beyond doubt to be fckn thick!

Why has this happened? Were you abused as a child? do you have problems about your identify?

Are you confused about sexulayt or you origin?

Probably none of these .......... but i do know that you are the most patehetic person on this mb.

Sorry but the word "COCK" springs to mind!

Tell you what, the name Waggy also has a ring of COCK to it at the moment!

Pathethic!

That's a bit strong isn't it..

Although I don’t subscribe to Waggy's (and others) views on Ince and feel the need to place all blame at the door of the players, I still respect a posters opinion. In fact, I am glad that some on this mb are still prepared to stick to their views on the contentious issue.

I for one am glad that Ince has gone, but I also believe that he will be a success one day, in either the PL or championship.. Thats just my opinion, so please dont have a go.

[Rover4ever]

I was touched by a number of sympathetic comments from Wham, Spurs, and Toon supporters at the BBC Blogs.

I always hated fans from these clubs for their big club delusions, but comments such as the ones below were unexpected but nice to read

The situation at Blackburn reminds me of West Ham in the 2002/03 season: they have a talented squad built up by a talented manager but found themselves struggling with a new one who was clearly out of his depth.

John Williams must have learnt from the West Ham debacle. At least he had acted in good time, unlike the West Ham board who kept faith with their manager for far too long.

I admire what Hughes achieved at Blackburn. I'm a West Ham fan, but seeing such a talented team look so poor on MOTD week after week has brought back some horrible memories and made me wince. (No pun intended.)

Right decision at the right time.

[Bobby G]

Wondering if any of the players will come out with a story sooner or later. Doubt it.

[philipl]

Raking over the coals in the press this morning- nothing from the gruesome twosome from the Mirror as yet:

Daily Mail - damning inside insight on the reality of life under Ince at Rovers.

Mail- Ince was dragging us into the abyss.

Daily Mail commentator was clearly under the influence when he produced this!

Irish Independent- Rovers' Irish contingent nervous

Telegraph- Ince deserves sympathy runs the headline but the article does an axe job on him!

Bringing up the rear, Tribal quoting the Sun saying Ince is in line for a £4m pay-off. At which point bazzanotsogreat retires hurt. As do the rest of us.

[Paul Mellelieu]

Tell you what mate .... you really are a class A "COCK"!

You arer the epitome of arrogance ...................... you still hold to a position that has been proven beyond doubt to be fckn thick!

Why has this happened? Were you abused as a child? do you have problems about your identify?

Are you confused about sexulayt or you origin?

Probably none of these .......... but i do know that you are the most patehetic person on this mb.

Sorry but the word "COCK" springs to mind!

Tell you what, the name Waggy also has a ring of COCK to it at the moment!

Pathethic!

I really don't want to reply to this as it's a disgraceful post (what it I had been abused as a child? That line is worth a ban on its own). Would you say something like this to me face to face? Thought not.

Let me remind you that I said about a month ago that Ince needed to be replaced. Now an apology is is due.

[philipl]

Plunket's editorial in the LT on the Ince sacking. Suicide watch for all Rovers' supporters after reading that one!

Mirror- King Kenny says Ince had to go

[broadsword]

Raking over the coals in the press this morning- nothing from the gruesome twosome from the Mirror as yet:

Daily Mail - damning inside insight on the reality of life under Ince at Rovers.

Knox's training methods, including press-ups and laps around the pitch, were seen as medieval. Mathias seemed simply to lack the presence to hold court.

And we're leaving these two half-wits in charge this week as our Premiership existence hangs in the balance?

We must be kamikaze.

Damning article, that one.

[CrazyIvan]

The Daily Mail certainly stick to their story. If what half of their complete story is true then there were major issues at the club and Ince needs to learn from this debacle but so do Rovers. Biggest lesson? Appoint a manager who has a forward thinking approach to the game like Hughes. To go backwards, as Rovers have, does not say much for Ince or his back room staff, it says even less for the lower leagues where those methods (and money) guaranteed success.

Is what they say true? The article is pretty clear and very damning and I think there is a lot more to this entire story than meets the eye.

[T4E]

The Daily Mail certainly stick to their story. If what half of their complete story is true then there were major issues at the club and Ince needs to learn from this debacle but so do Rovers. Biggest lesson? Appoint a manager who has a forward thinking approach to the game like Hughes. To go backwards, as Rovers have, does not say much for Ince or his back room staff, it says even less for the lower leagues where those methods (and money) guaranteed success.

Is what they say true? The article is pretty clear and very damning and I think there is a lot more to this entire story than meets the eye.

The biggest lesson is not to dismiss rumours of unrest out of hand in the future just because no one from the club has outright said it exists. Furthermore, we should all take any denial that the club issue on any given subject with a massive pinch of salt.

[philipl]

I suspect that now the Mail has started the ball rolling, only the fact that Rovers are not big "box office" will stop far more hitting the papers.

And just as I posted that, here comes the Mirror's take on the Ince disaster (not Nico's)

[Pugg]

I might email that Mirror piece to Ray H on talksport! Good to see a lot of articles out there supporting our decision.

[philipl]

Very good article in the Manchester Evening News

[CrazyIvan]

The biggest lesson is not to dismiss rumours of unrest out of hand in the future just because no one from the club has outright said it exists. Furthermore, we should all take any denial that the club issue on any given subject with a massive pinch of salt.

I'm not going to go into this with any depth but to say that both rumours of unrest and paper talk, be it denials or not, should always be taken with a pinch of salt.

[T4E]

I'm not going to go into this with any depth but to say that both rumours of unrest and paper talk, be it denials or not, should always be taken with a pinch of salt.

Absolutely - I've said as much in the past. Dismissing them out of hand is very foolish as some of us already knew and the rest are just finding out.

[Exiled in Toronto]

The biggest lesson is not to dismiss rumours of unrest out of hand in the future just because no one from the club has outright said it exists. Furthermore, we should all take any denial that the club issue on any given subject with a massive pinch of salt.

Maybe, but these are the exact same rumours with no more substantiation than before, now just being presented up as fact.

I find it hard to believe that players are happy to throw the Wigan game in the full glare of publicity but have reservations about putting their names to some quotes about life under Ince. Pussies.

[Atty]

Raking over the coals in the press this morning- nothing from the gruesome twosome from the Mirror as yet:

Daily Mail - damning inside insight on the reality of life under Ince at Rovers.

Mail- Ince was dragging us into the abyss.

Daily Mail commentator was clearly under the influence when he produced this!

Irish Independent- Rovers' Irish contingent nervous

Telegraph- Ince deserves sympathy runs the headline but the article does an axe job on him!

Bringing up the rear, Tribal quoting the Sun saying Ince is in line for a £4m pay-off. At which point bazzanotsogreat retires hurt. As do the rest of us.

To me the articles all make sense of what's been going on at ewood and there no smoke without fire, and if any of these articles are true then im so shocked that JW did not fire Ince before now, He was completely out of his depth.

You don't go from 7 to 2nd from bottom in less then 20 games no matter what some people think. I wonder if the players have been rebelling against Ince

Waggys probably wont believe it and still blame the players!!!

[Majiball]

The biggest lesson is not to dismiss rumours of unrest out of hand in the future just because no one from the club has outright said it exists. Furthermore, we should all take any denial that the club issue on any given subject with a massive pinch of salt.

And what a sorry state of affairs, believe no-one, trust nothing. The worst thing is your right. I yearn for the times when I could trust what I was told or heard in the papers/statements.

[T4E]

Maybe, but these are the exact same rumours with no more substantiation than before, now just being presented up as fact.

I find it hard to believe that players are happy to throw the Wigan game in the full glare of publicity but have reservations about putting their names to some quotes about life under Ince. Pussies.

Totally agree - it's a shocking state of affairs if true.

I must admit, when I saw Warnocks antics at the weekend I could help thinking back to hearing in the Summer that he hated Ince and wanted away from the club. You have to wonder.

[Jan]

Maybe, but these are the exact same rumours with no more substantiation than before, now just being presented up as fact.

I find it hard to believe that players are happy to throw the Wigan game in the full glare of publicity but have reservations about putting their names to some quotes about life under Ince. Pussies.

Says one of the biggest ince apologists going. Everyone had heard the rumours and there had been a lot of "off the record" comments of how useless they were. There will be more.

[gillibrand]

I just hope Ince does not have the cheek to ask for a pay off, he should be fined for the damage he has done!

[LeftWinger]

I just hope Ince does not have the cheek to ask for a pay off, he should be fined for the damage he has done!

Always annoys me when managers get a pay-off. If I went into a company, was a complete joke at my job, I wouldn't expect them to pay me for the next few years. Surely there must be some way of sacking managers, and not giving them compensation when it's a fair dismissal.

[Stuart]

Always annoys me when managers get a pay-off. If I went into a company, was a complete joke at my job, I wouldn't expect them to pay me for the next few years. Surely there must be some way of sacking managers, and not giving them compensation when it's a fair dismissal.

Yes, it's called negotiating a contract.

[Exiled in Toronto]

Says one of the biggest ince apologists going. Everyone had heard the rumours and there had been a lot of "off the record" comments of how useless they were. There will be more.

Off the record comments from ###### who happily throw games might keep you happy, but I personally have no interest. Shy are they?

By the way, got any further updates on that other jumped up # you were telling us about? They're all the same you know!

[CAPT KAYOS]

Personally I feel Ince was an unfortunate victim of circumstance and as I first posted when he was appointed, was on a hiding to nothing from the beginning. I thought he could have done a good job for us but now we will never know.

Not being naïve enough not to think he has contributed to his downfall and after Saturday he had to go as Rovers could not afford to go on as they where, however I do feel things have gone against him in the normal term of things ie injuries , lack of money , lack of management experience and the biggy lack of time and need to stay in the Premier at all costs.

As I have posted many times before, I am not into knee jerk reactions with regard to the sacking of managers and feel they do need time and was happy to give Ince/the club allow him to get his feet under the table and start to influence his own management on the club (and something I am sure the Rovers Board would have done if it wasn’t for the biggy issue mentioned above)

All the more perfectly highlighted in this post from Billy Castell in the ‘Keep Your Nose Out Lma thread ………. Showing exactly the state of what football is unfortunately about nowadays.

A club like us cannot afford relegation, and that was where we were heading. If the LMA are so concerned why don't they initiate moves to disband the Premier League. Before it came about, many clubs that were not league challengers could afford to stick with a manager for a bit longer, as relegation would not mean a loss of £30m, and the fan base would not fluctuate so much. Now, thanks to the lovely Premier League, there is too much pressure on avoiding relegation at all costs because of finances, and thus there is more pressure on managers at clubs with smaller budgets.

Again, Blackburn Rovers cannot afford to be relegated, otherwise we'll end up like Charlton or Southampton

What appears to be being missed by the majority of outside punters is the manner we have been getting beat - yes defeats can be accepted even on the run we where on ( we are still not far off safety) but not the supposed performances that we have witnessed lately which even a kindergarten team would not have put in..and where we did not appear to be even learning or improving from one game to the next –

In the meantime however, and this really worries me – there was an interview with Ray Mattias on Radio Lancs last night – and he said they will just prepare for the weekend game with the same training methods as they have done since the start of the season!!! – this will be the same players with the same coaching team less Ince … this on the face of it sounds alarming but for the time being is the reality of the situation, however it may answer the questions of our problems or may just confirm a few home truths especially with the players.

A manager tends to always be the first to go as the buck lies with them, I just feel its quite apparent there is something more rootcore to all of this.

Good luck Ince, I am sure you will bounce back with success - possibly the right club for you but was certainly the wrong time.