Fútbol, Le Foot, Voetbal, ποδόσφαιρο

[Lancs Rover]

45 minutes ago, roverandout said:

Since when is a ball crossing the line cheating 

Now known as a 'Wembley goal' in Germany...😁

[Upside Down]

1 hour ago, roverandout said:

Since when is a ball crossing the line cheating 

I was always taught the ball had to cross the line. Maybe the rules were different in the 60s.

Then there's the semi final...

[rigger]

3 hours ago, roverandout said:

Since when is a ball crossing the line cheating 

Since VAR has been introduced.

[Tyrone Shoelaces]

4 hours ago, Tabula Rasa said:

Now known as a 'Wembley goal' in Germany...😁

I don’t think anybody on or off the pitch knew for sure that all the ball was over all the line. Having said that Roger Hunt, who was very near to the ball, seemed pretty certain.

Edited December 22, 2023 by Tyrone Shoelaces

[Roverthechimp]

And it begins… (game to be replayed in part due to VAR)

https://www.bbc.com/sport/football/68116985

Edited January 27 by Roverthechimp
Explanation

[wilsdenrover]

9 minutes ago, Roverthechimp said:

And it begins… (game to be replayed in part due to VAR)

https://www.bbc.com/sport/football/68116985

Let the chaos commence.

[arbitro]

Rovers fans flying the flag at Zwolle yesterday.

 

[riverholmes]

22 hours ago, Roverthechimp said:

And it begins… (game to be replayed in part due to VAR)

https://www.bbc.com/sport/football/68116985

Replay because of ‘misapplication of rules’ has precedent in England in non-league case, at least. However, if misapplication is applied to video refs, it opens up much more.

The ref apparently didn’t see Ivan Toney move the ball and the foam for his free kick goal against Forest. It could be argued that video refs did see and their inaction was a misapplication of the rules in a goal situation.

I saw a clip online of Dermot O’Leary answering questions on the Toney goal and he denied VAR can get involved but the seemingly deceitful way he avoided answering questions makes me doubt him.

Legally, refs were the final arbiters and given leeway for human error. That seems to be ending and as well as more legal challenges to results, I fear we will have ever growing stoppages in games as VAR is involved in every key decision and officials spend more time clarifying advice.

Edit: The difference between human error and ‘misapplication of rules’ seems to be a judgment on how blatant and unreasonable the error is. I think intention is factored in too. With video refs, clubs are arguing (as Club Brugge have done recently in their own appeal) that any human error is misapplication of rules.

Club Brugge’s appeal got rejected but I think they have also appealed to a court of arbitration, so this may go further.

Edited January 28 by riverholmes

[Roverthechimp]

7 minutes ago, riverholmes said:

Replay because of ‘misapplication of rules’ has precedent in England in non-league case, at least. However, if misapplication is applied to video refs, it opens up much more.

The ref apparently didn’t see Ivan Toney move the ball and the foam for his free kick goal against Forest. It could be argued that video refs did see and their inaction was a misapplication of the rules in a goal situation.

I saw a clip online of Dermot O’Leary answering questions on the Toney goal and he denied VAR can get involved but the seemingly deceitful way he avoided answering questions makes me doubt him.

Legally, refs were the final arbiters and given leeway for human error. That seems to be ending and as well as more legal challenges to results, I fear we will have ever growing stoppages in games as VAR is involved in every key decision and officials spend more time clarifying advice.

Sadly we are hurtling towards F1 levels of the result only being a preliminary classification 🤬

Clubs will employ video analysts to scour through games to find breaches and appeal for the game to be replayed as something did not comply with the letter of the law (not necessarily the intention of said law)

[wilsdenrover]

3 hours ago, riverholmes said:

Replay because of ‘misapplication of rules’ has precedent in England in non-league case, at least. However, if misapplication is applied to video refs, it opens up much more.

The ref apparently didn’t see Ivan Toney move the ball and the foam for his free kick goal against Forest. It could be argued that video refs did see and their inaction was a misapplication of the rules in a goal situation.

I saw a clip online of Dermot O’Leary answering questions on the Toney goal and he denied VAR can get involved but the seemingly deceitful way he avoided answering questions makes me doubt him.

Legally, refs were the final arbiters and given leeway for human error. That seems to be ending and as well as more legal challenges to results, I fear we will have ever growing stoppages in games as VAR is involved in every key decision and officials spend more time clarifying advice.

Edit: The difference between human error and ‘misapplication of rules’ seems to be a judgment on how blatant and unreasonable the error is. With video refs, clubs are arguing (as Club Brugge have done recently in their own appeal) that any human error is misapplication of rules.

Club Brugge’s appeal got rejected but I think they have also appealed to a court of arbitration, so this may go further.

That incident certainly seemed like a clear and obvious error and it absolutely led to a goal so…

Edited January 28 by wilsdenrover

[AllRoverAsia]

VAR awards a very dodgy pen to Iran to bring the semi to 2-2.

An atrocious decision.

Iran must pay well.

Qatar finally won 3-2 but not until after the invented 13 minutes added time plus another 3 minutes added, reasons only known to Iran and the bent Ref.

TBF Iran bossed the second half but spurned good chances and had atrocious luck in those late 3 mins added.

But I'm delighted to see the back of Iran to set up a Jordan v Qatar final.

Edited February 7 by AllRoverAsia

[wilsdenrover]

Which of our players do we think would do this? 
 

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/av/football/68704147

[wilsdenrover]

Wasn’t sure where to put this but all I can say is what a load of bollocks:

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/articles/cprgr2175x7o

[Norbert Rassragr]

Just read that now. Brentford vs. Bournemouth in Saudi Arabia or Shanghai anyone?

[Ianrally]

So they want to fly teams around the World to play domestic matches and have a World Cup in three different countries along with fans flying between various WC venues. 
Next they will be telling us that FIFA is a carbon neutral organisation ffs. 
They are a bunch of money grabbing gangsters!

[Norbert Rassragr]

Give it another 15 years and the only people able to watch a game live more than once will be Arab royal families, Rishi Sunak and Taylor Swift.

The Ice Hockey world cup is going on in the Czech Republic and Slovakia, and even though it's a smaller sport, I've seen loads of fans in Prague. Normal people too. The stadiums look packed and the atmosphere great.

[Upside Down]

The whole game from top to bottom needs to be ripped up and started again.

They are all a disgrace to humanity.

[chaddyrovers]

 

 

 

[chaddyrovers]

Anyone going to watch the Championship League final? 

[Forever Blue]

1 hour ago, chaddyrovers said:

Anyone going to watch the Championship League final? 

Yep, will be the first CL game I’ve watched all season due to not having TNT. It’s on Discovery tonight, seems they’ve moved it from YouTube where it’s been free-to-air in the last few years. 
 

The build up seems to be all about RM. I think I’ll support the underdog. 

[chaddyrovers]

8 minutes ago, Forever Blue said:

Yep, will be the first CL game I’ve watched all season due to not having TNT. It’s on Discovery tonight, seems they’ve moved it from YouTube where it’s been free-to-air in the last few years. 

Yes same here. Not watch one CL game all year. 

Free for Discovery plus with Sky

8 minutes ago, Forever Blue said:

The build up seems to be all about RM. I think I’ll support the underdog. 

I hope Dortmund win. Sancho to score

[jodrell]

Come on Dortmund 2 great chances 

[simongarnerisgod]

they`ll regret not taking those chances🙄,cmon dortmund

[chaddyrovers]

come on Dortmund

[simongarnerisgod]

ffs,you great turnip maatsen,thats what tippy tappy playing out from the back does for you