[Archived] So should we do something to turn the tide?

[hesfromburn]

Protesting will probably cause more damage while the window is still open we are probably better letting the club get players in. Then protesting against kean. I like the idea of a shower of donuts on his head....will they bounce or splat?

[Glenn]

If there are any plans which come to fruition would it be worthwhile posting them on other Rovers supporters sites? I'm sure if there is any kind of protest the more we have involved surely the more weight it will carry.

If somebody I have faith in leads the charge, I'll happily bang the drum for them within the various online/offline communities. This was the mistakes the facebook group made last time, they did get all the various pockets of support behind it (or even make them aware).

[Henwah]

Best make sure the Raos don't have a mobile water cannon amongst their vehicle collection beforehand too ;-)

[Seggie]

Protesting will probably cause more damage while the window is still open we are probably better letting the club get players in. Then protesting against kean. I like the idea of a shower of donuts on his head....will they bounce or splat?

Disagree, he can do more damage by bringing in the Wrong players

[chris]

dounut idea is brilliant but nobody will do it, could get in trouble

[hesfromburn]

seggie my worry is will there be time for a decent manager to bring players in?

[T.J.Newton]

ill give a tenner to anybody that can get pictured putting a donut in steve keans hand, and im sure there be more here that would offer the same(could be a lot of tenners).

[Mercer]

Make no mistake, we are now drinking in the last chance saloon. IMO, the very existance of the club is at stake.

Supporters need to do something radical.

All this before and after the match is nonsense.

Give Venky's and Kean perpetual verbal and visual hell throughout the game.

Also, we need the likes of Kamy etc to work on the press. The LT & local radio need to be persuaded to raise their game.

[steelcityblue]

I don't think the answer is to alienate Venkys. They seem to have been duped into this mess and are the only owners we've got and are likely to get (the club was up for sale for a long time..unless you'd have preferred Ali Syed). God knows they've made mistakes: we can only hope they are learning (and there are some signs that maybe they sre). If the only response they get from the fans is complete hostility the danger is they will let the club simply wither..they can't sell it..no one wants to buy. We're stuck with Venkys and we've got to make it work. If we can convince them that we're in this together, that as fans we can offer at least some direction if they'll listen..starting with the unanimous view that Steve Kean needs to go..then maybe we can turn this around. They do have some resources, they do want a PR success...fans in general and those with an ear within their organisation in particular need to be saying that we will stand alongside them if they show themselves able and willing to learn from where we are now and take the club forward. The Rovers are too important and the situation too precarious for us to so totally ###### them off that they want nothing to do with us, minimise their losses and let nature take its course.

[daveoftherovers]

"We want our Rovers back, and to give Kean the sack..."

[Paul]

It's very simple "we want Steve Kean out, say we want Steve Kean out".

No need to be precious about it. No need to debate when. Just do it. IF the majority support the idea it will grow organically, if not it will quickly die.

There has been far too much debate. Too much concern about the poor sensitive lambs on the pitch.

Sing "we want Steve Kean out" that is all we need.

[Kelbo]

It's very simple "we want Steve Kean out, say we want Steve Kean out".

No need to be precious about it. No need to debate when. Just do it. IF the majority support the idea it will grow organically, if not it will quickly die.

There has been far too much debate. Too much concern about the poor sensitive lambs on the pitch.

Sing "we want Steve Kean out" that is all we need.

Yes, I like that, not a lot, but I like it as was Paul Daniels catchphrase, now maybe we could hire him and make Kean disappear

[Paul]

19 choices? With great respect Maji what is the point of that?

[Seggie]

seggie my worry is will there be time for a decent manager to bring players in?

Its swings and roundabouts really, if Kean brings in poor players we are stuck with them on hefty wages when the new manager decides he doesnt want them. Worse still if the damgae has been done by the time a new manager takes over and we end up going down we are stuck with poor players on PL wages in the Championship. A new manager may not be able to bring in players straight away before the deadline but it is far more important to bring the right players in rather than just bodies which seems to be Keans tactic in the transfer market.

I don't think the answer is to alienate Venkys. They seem to have been duped into this mess and are the only owners we've got and are likely to get (the club was up for sale for a long time..unless you'd have preferred Ali Syed). God knows they've made mistakes: we can only hope they are learning (and there are some signs that maybe they sre). If the only response they get from the fans is complete hostility the danger is they will let the club simply wither..they can't sell it..no one wants to buy. We're stuck with Venkys and we've got to make it work. If we can convince them that we're in this together, that as fans we can offer at least some direction if they'll listen..starting with the unanimous view that Steve Kean needs to go..then maybe we can turn this around. They do have some resources, they do want a PR success...fans in general and those with an ear within their organisation in particular need to be saying that we will stand alongside them if they show themselves able and willing to learn from where we are now and take the club forward. The Rovers are too important and the situation too precarious for us to so totally ###### them off that they want nothing to do with us, minimise their losses and let nature take its course.

I agree with this in principal but everybody should be open to critisisam even rich chicken overlords, they have made mistakes and the biggest one was replacing a manager who was doing reasonably well given the investmant he had had and replacing him with an inexperienced nomark. That was a poor decision and the owners must take the blame on that, even if they were poorly advised.

It's very simple "we want Steve Kean out, say we want Steve Kean out".

No need to be precious about it. No need to debate when. Just do it. IF the majority support the idea it will grow organically, if not it will quickly die.

There has been far too much debate. Too much concern about the poor sensitive lambs on the pitch.

Sing "we want Steve Kean out" that is all we need.

Couldn't agree more Paul, the poor sensitive lambs on the pitch cant be that bothered whilst earning their £40k per week, it may even spur them on to try save him his job.

[John]

It is not about hard luck stories, poor advice etc etc, the tissues don't need to come out - the buck stops with Venkys and so far they have made a right royal f up of OUR club. It is nearly getting to that time to act and to get our message across.

[mjs]

It isn't nearly the time, it is NOW the time.

Loud and clear starting it during the sheff wed game (not that there will be many there) and then against everton. Forget about the effect on the players coz their performance can't be any worse anyway.

[T.J.Newton]

Personal feelings aside these are the key reasons kean must leave be replaced:-

1. The players dont respect him.

2. Its clear he has no idea what to do on matchdays once the games kicked off.

3. He doesnt know how to play the transfer system.

4. He has a very poor reputation so cant attract established players to the club.

5. His donut fettish makes me uncomfortable(sorry, got personal there!).

Also as much as kean must be go, I think we need to show our support to the venkys(we are in it together, like it or not).

[Alan75]

Where is Tony Parkes

[deazel]

Is there any way that we can petition the FA or the Premier League (or perhaps even UEFA) to have the club taken out of the control of the Raos? They are clearly asset stripping and acting against the interests of the club and the league. Is there any force that we can exert to take control out of their hands?????

[BPF]

Is there any way that we can petition the FA or the Premier League (or perhaps even UEFA) to have the club taken out of the control of the Raos? They are clearly asset stripping and acting against the interests of the club and the league. Is there any force that we can exert to take control out of their hands?????

No.

Furthermore, your plan would lead to inevitable administration as we are not a profit making company. Actually, under the Rao's....we are. Except they keep the majority of the profits of course...

[T4E]

Why not a stay in your seats campaign, refuse to leave ewood park untill somebody comes out and speaks to the fans.

This is by far the best plan. Of course we are a group of supporters afflicted by crippling apathy, and as such nothing will happen.

[Gav]

Look at the Villa protest under Houlier, all they did to gain national media coverage was unveil a few banners in the ground, that got the ball rolling.

That message would soon hit the worldwide media, and be in Pune before we got home that evening.

Simple as that to start off.