Cricket

[matt83]

Very good win for Lancs and out of the relegation zone. Big win psychologically as wont play again in the cc until mid June.

Until today the last division one away win was April 2014 and first away win in either division for 3 years. 

[chaddyrovers]

Buttler and Bess called into the test squad. 

disappointed to see Livingstone or Joe Clarke or Gubbins not called up.

If you are dropping Vince then Stoneman should have been drop.

 

[matt83]

I appreciate Leach broke his thumb yesterday but this Bess has only taken 1 wicket this season. Ed Smith is scraping a deep barrel here.

I’m not a fan of England taking Lancashire’s players before they’re ready but if the logic is he bats a bit Livi has taken 7 or so wickets and he’s a very part time spinner.

As for Buttler he’s clearly a talent but can you go from exclusively playing t20 cricket to test cricket with no red ball game time. We shall see...

[Mattyblue]

Hameed's form has fallen off a cliff, so it looks as if he'll be learning his trade at county level for the forseeable (if he can even get into the Lancs team!).

 

[matt83]

5 hours ago, Mattyblue said:

Hameed's form has fallen off a cliff, so it looks as if he'll be learning his trade at county level for the forseeable (if he can even get into the Lancs team!).

 

I’d be astonished if he’s not in the lancs 2nd xi for the next cc game vs Essex let alone England. Think lancs will bring in Jones for a top 3 of Jennings, Davies and jones. Even Karl brown notched 150 ish for the 2nds.

Hameed hasn’t been the same since he broke his finger. But I reckon it could be a mental thing. Sadly being to tough out dips in form is what makes average players good players and good players great ones. For now at least he doesn’t seem to have that in his locker and has been awful for over a year now. 

[chaddyrovers]

Hameed playing for the Lancs second team today in 50 over game. Chanderpaul also playing there. 

The Lancashire squad for today 50 over game against Notts. Game starts 1.30pm..on Sky Sports Cricket

Liam Livingstone (C), Tom Bailey, Karl Brown, Jordan Clark, Steven Croft, Alex Davies, Keaton Jennings, Arron Lilley, Joe Mennie, Graham Onions, Matt Parkinson, Stephen Parry, Dane Vilas

My team would be

Jennings Davies Livingstone Brown Vilas Croft Clark Bailey Mennie Parkinson Onions. 

 

[chaddyrovers]

Lancashire team for the one day comp today

ennings Davies Livingstone Vilas Croft Clark Bailey Mennie Parkinson Parry Lilley. 

[Husky]

Notts are the reigning 50 over champs. Tough game . .

...  especially as it looks like Davies has injured his finger.

Edited May 17, 2018 by Husky

[chaddyrovers]

Jennings played a really good inning

Also feel Lancashire are 1 maybe 2 batsman short. Why Hameed or Lamb didnt play instead of Parry I dont know. 

[Husky]

1 minute ago, chaddyrovers said:

Jennings played a really good inning

Also feel Lancashire are 1 maybe 2 batsman short. Why Hameed or Lamb didnt play instead of Parry I dont know. 

Because Hameed is in woeful form and even at best he's a 50 strike rate player which is nowhere near good enough for one day cricket.

Even Croft's scratchy 33 from 42 balls essentially lost the game.

[Rogerb]

21 hours ago, Husky said:

Because Hameed is in woeful form and even at best he's a 50 strike rate player which is nowhere near good enough for one day cricket.

Even Croft's scratchy 33 from 42 balls essentially lost the game.

Think it was more Mennies over which went for 20 towards the end of the Notts innings!

[matt83]

Lancs chucked that away other day. Have to win games from good positions.

The question I asked is about the make up of the team. We had at least one too many bowlers. Why did we need 3 specialist spinners plus livi and Croft. Theoretically 50 overs of spin possible. Between them Parry and Lilley bowled 6 overs for 0 wickets and got 16 runs between them. The former coming in at 10 the latter 7. 

An extra batsman like brown could have taken either ones place. Or even 2 batsmen might have got lancs over the line with no real loss to the bowling attack  

No idea why but annually in this tournament it’s as though we’ve been given a few hours notice that there’s a game on and frantically assemble a side of players who we can locate.

[matt83]

Good start by lancs. 

I do like this opening partnership. One tall one tiny. One lefty one righty. One aggressive one more considered. Can make it torrid for the bowler if constantly changing line and length  

 

[chaddyrovers]

AB De Villers has retired from all international cricket

[chaddyrovers]

Bess made his debut. Wood starts instead of Woakes. 

England made a poor start and 3 wickets down at lunch. Tho the Pakistan bowlers have bowled well. 

Stoneman looks out of form. I wouldn't have pick him but either Gubbins or Jennings for him. 

[chaddyrovers]

Bowled out for 184. Pathetic performance

[Gav]

I've been lucky enough to watch most of this years IPL, fantastic tournament that attracts the best players from around the world, although the cattle trading before the tournament starts leaves a bad taste in the mouth, but hey ho.....

But I just wanted to single out Rasid Khan the young Afghan spinner, batter and exceptional fielder, the mans on another level in this form of the game, an absolute joy to watch.

Hes going to be a superstar, he already is in India and Afghanistan,  keep an eye out for him if you've never seen him, gets you out of your seat. 

One last thing, the Indian talent that can't make the national squad is frightening, batting, spin and pace bowlers a plenty, could dominate the game in years to come.

[matt83]

Sri Lanka cricket are profiteering again for the test series in November. Locals will be charged £1.50 and England fans £50 per day providing purchase all 5 days with seemingly no refunds for days lost to weather or even an early finish. 

In Galle in 2012 locals then paid £1 and we were charged £25 when only a few months earlier the Australians were charged £5. Travelling watching cricket abroad you get used to an “English tax” and being viewed as cash cows but must admit this one rankles. 

Suppose someone has to pay for the Sri Lankan players 30% pay rise. But I suspect there’ll be more people watching for free from the fort in Galle than in the ground this time round. Too late for those of us who have already booked flights/accommodation but I wonder if its a bit shortsighted by putting off folk from going. 

[chaddyrovers]

Do we prefer test cricket or one day cricket or twenty20 cricket?

Myself I prefer Test Cricket. always have. 

 

[matt83]

5 hours ago, chaddyrovers said:

Do we prefer test cricket or one day cricket or twenty20 cricket?

Myself I prefer Test Cricket. always have. 

 

I personally like all forms (excluding this city team 100 ball thing which I’m not prepared to give a chance) but massively prefer test cricket and county championship over t20/50 overs. For me it’s the difference between fine dining and a Big Mac meal. Although with weekend scheduling I’m far more likely to attended white ball cricket. 

In importance I view the formats as the difference between football 11 a-side and 5 a-side. Nice to win owt but know what I’d prefer to win. But suspect in the minority as sadly t20 taking over and watching the impatience of England’s first innings in this game it’s probably infected test cricket beyond repair.

I must admit though don’t tgink I’d shed a tear if t20 was to vanish from the game. 

[chaddyrovers]

4 minutes ago, matt83 said:

I personally like all forms (excluding this city team 100 ball thing which I’m not prepared to give a chance) but massively prefer test cricket and county championship over t20/50 overs. For me it’s the difference between fine dining and a Big Mac meal. Although with weekend scheduling I’m far more likely to attended white ball cricket. 

In importance I view the formats as the difference between football 11 a-side and 5 a-side. Nice to win owt but know what I’d prefer to win. But suspect in the minority as sadly t20 taking over and watching the impatience of England’s first innings in this game it’s probably infected test cricket beyond repair.

I must admit though don’t tgink I’d shed a tear if t20 was to vanish from the game. 

I wouldnt miss t20 cricket at all. Like watching it but much prefer watching 5 days of cricket. 

Dont see t20 going anywhere tho. 

I think England problems are down to more than t20 but its a factor..another factor is the quality of county cricket and players  

[matt83]

14 minutes ago, chaddyrovers said:

I wouldnt miss t20 cricket at all. Like watching it but much prefer watching 5 days of cricket. 

Dont see t20 going anywhere tho. 

I think England problems are down to more than t20 but its a factor..another factor is the quality of county cricket and players  

No t20 isn’t going anywhere. 

Doesn’t help the county championship when potential test quality players like Deirdre and Hales officially withdraw from red ball cricket. Then other players like Roy, Buttler, etc effectively withdraw from it through their actions of pimping themselves out to the highest bidder all over the world.

I do fear for the future of real cricket. 

[chaddyrovers]

6 minutes ago, matt83 said:

No t20 isn’t going anywhere. 

Doesn’t help the county championship when potential test quality players like Deirdre and Hales officially withdraw from red ball cricket. Then other players like Roy, Buttler, etc effectively withdraw from it through their actions of pimping themselves out to the highest bidder all over the world.

I do fear for the future of real cricket. 

I fear for test and 4 day cricket future. 

I dont understand why Buttler can be picked for test cricket when he hasnt played 4 day cricket all season. When players like Joe Clarke, Liam Livingstone and Nick Gubbins have perform this county season and hasnt been picked. 

[chaddyrovers]

Malan and Stoneman need dropping. Not good enough..

Cook, Bairstow and Root got good balls so fair enough. 

Abbas has been really good and impressive. 

[matt83]

Quite right Beefy botham. Hit the nail on the head there. 

When we tour the excuse is we don’t prepare well enough. Now we’re at home we are still the underprepared team with Pakistan playing the Irish at malahide and Leicestershire. So where our lads are either faffing about in IPL for their bank balance or being rested. As beefy said about finding time, there is time to play county championship if you make time. Plus normal people have harder jobs.