Loan Window

[JacknOry]

3 minutes ago, Bigdoggsteel said:

I think its very, very.....very wishful thinking!

It is but even three from the four or similar deals but with the likes of Brereton or some other attractive names would go some way to nullifying the disappointment of deadline day.

[blueboy3333]

5 hours ago, Bepeja43 said:

Hodgson at the time..  'There are too many riders on the funds to spend to make it interesting'

At the time, these were cryptic words. It is now known JW preferred young talent that would have a resale value. This ruled out players over 25 years old it is believed. RH wanted well known established internationals.

Like Martin Dahlin and Christian Dailly FFS!? Hodgson was responsible for some of the most overpriced shyte we've ever had the misfortune of watching.

How's France?

Edited August 14, 2018 by blueboy3333

[Bigdoggsteel]

Just now, JacknOry said:

It is but even three from the four or similar deals but with the likes of Brereton or some other attractive names would go some way to nullifying the disappointment of deadline day.

Definitely. One of the wingers and one of the strikers would really help the team 

[blueboy3333]

47 minutes ago, 47er said:

Well I'm guessing Chapman and I look forward to it.

I'd love to watch him but I can't see the bench from where I sit. 

[davulsukur]

42 minutes ago, jim mk2 said:

 

665 days without a game. There must be a reason. Just saying

http://www.sportbible.com/football/football-news-after-665-days-without-a-game-micah-richards-is-finally-released-20180813

 

21 minutes ago, JacknOry said:

Micah Richards and Charlie Adam - two signings I would be tempted to avoid. Firstly they are at the wrong age completely and secondly, their wages would be quite huge (unjustifiably so).

When a player hasn’t played a game for 665 days he should be taking whatever wage he can get.

but this is football and he somehow would be expecting a huge wage to go to any club. 

The madness of Football.

[FGS5635]

The bench is important. You cant win things without decent options sat on that bench.

Chapman is a great option to bring on as teams tire late in the game.

Maybe that all he is, if it is then so be it. But he has tremendous upside and potential for a lot more

[RV Blue]

30 minutes ago, Bigdoggsteel said:

So here we go again, its the hope that kills ya

Maddison, Chapman, Gallagher and Bauer all in on loan to buy deals in the next fortnight. Ye heard it here 1st. #ITK #Aye 

And who posted that?

[JacknOry]

Just now, FGS5635 said:

The bench is important. You cant win things without decent options sat on that bench.

Chapman is a great option to bring on as teams tire late in the game.

Maybe that all he is, if it is then so be it. But he has tremendous upside and potential for a lot more

Exactly, even as an impact sub he makes us stronger and still so young, so plenty of time to develop into a starter. 

[AAK]

16 minutes ago, blueboy3333 said:

Like Martin Dahlin and Christian Dailly FFS!? Hodgson was responsible for some of the most overpriced shyte we've ever had the misfortune of watching.

How's France?

Was a funny one with Hodgson, in his first season this was the table at Christmas; Second with 39 points

 

Premier League 97/98 League table Custom table

# Clubs P W D L F A GD Points 1 +1▲

Manchester United

19 13 4 2 45 13 32 43 2 +4▲

Blackburn Rovers

19 11 6 2 36 19 17 39 3 +1▲

Chelsea

19 12 2 5 45 19 26 38 4 +1▲

Leeds United

19 10 4 5 28 19 9 34 5 -2▼

Liverpool

18 9 4 5 31 17 14 31 6 -5▼

Arsenal

18 8 6 4 32 21 11 30 7 +2▲

Derby County

19 8 5 6 33 27 6 29 8 +2▲

Leicester City

19 7 6 6 23 18 5 27 9 +4▲

Newcastle United

18 7 5 6 20 22 -2 26 10 -2▼

West Ham United

19 8 1 10 25 31 -6 25 11 +4▲

Milton Keynes Dons

18 6 5 7 19 21 -2 23 12 -5▼

Aston Villa

19 6 4 9 20 25 -5 22 13 +7▲

Crystal Palace

19 5 6 8 17 25 -8 21 14 +2▲

Sheffield Wednesday

19 6 3 10 31 43 -12 21 15 -3▼

Southampton

19 6 2 11 23 29 -6 20 16 -5▼

Coventry City

19 4 8 7 17 25 -8 20 17 +1▲

Bolton Wanderers

19 4 8 7 16 29 -13 20 18 -4▼

Tottenham Hotspur

19 5 4 10 17 32 -15 19 19 -2▼

Everton

19 4 5 10 17 27 -10 17 20 -1▼

Barnsley

19 4 2 13 17 50 -33 14

Edited August 14, 2018 by AAK

[TruRover]

I'm personally hoping for Brereton or chapman with a view to a perm deal.

[tomphil]

9 minutes ago, blueboy3333 said:

Like Martin Dahlin and Christian Dailly FFS!? Hodgson was responsible for some of the most overpriced shyte we've ever had the misfortune of watching.

How's France?

Too right, we might have played half a season of great football and maybe he'd have got us out the mess in October that got him sacked but by the lord he certainly contributed a fair bit of damage that took a few years to sort and a lot of Jacks personal fortune.

Some cheap foreign tosh and some astronomically overpriced English/Welsh/Scottish trash he brought in he clearly had no idea of the British market at the time. Maybe if he'd been allowed to spend big on foreign players like he was used to it would have worked out better.  Two he got right in Henchoz and Perez we probably never got the best out of, also to be fair Williams was new to the job back then and didn't really know his arse from his elbow.

[Bigdoggsteel]

7 minutes ago, RV Blue said:

And who posted that?

Me

[islander200]

10 minutes ago, AAK said:

Was a funny one with Hodgson, in his first season this was the table at Christmas; Second with 39 points

 

Premier League 97/98 League table Custom table

# Clubs P W D L F A GD Points 1 +1▲

Manchester United

19 13 4 2 45 13 32 43 2 +4▲

Blackburn Rovers

19 11 6 2 36 19 17 39 3 +1▲

Chelsea

19 12 2 5 45 19 26 38 4 +1▲

Leeds United

19 10 4 5 28 19 9 34 5 -2▼

Liverpool

18 9 4 5 31 17 14 31 6 -5▼

Arsenal

18 8 6 4 32 21 11 30 7 +2▲

Derby County

19 8 5 6 33 27 6 29 8 +2▲

Leicester City

19 7 6 6 23 18 5 27 9 +4▲

Newcastle United

18 7 5 6 20 22 -2 26 10 -2▼

West Ham United

19 8 1 10 25 31 -6 25 11 +4▲

Milton Keynes Dons

18 6 5 7 19 21 -2 23 12 -5▼

Aston Villa

19 6 4 9 20 25 -5 22 13 +7▲

Crystal Palace

19 5 6 8 17 25 -8 21 14 +2▲

Sheffield Wednesday

19 6 3 10 31 43 -12 21 15 -3▼

Southampton

19 6 2 11 23 29 -6 20 16 -5▼

Coventry City

19 4 8 7 17 25 -8 20 17 +1▲

Bolton Wanderers

19 4 8 7 16 29 -13 20 18 -4▼

Tottenham Hotspur

19 5 4 10 17 32 -15 19 19 -2▼

Everton

19 4 5 10 17 27 -10 17 20 -1▼

Barnsley

19 4 2 13 17 50 -33 14

We played great football up Christmas that year.Hammering Sheff Weds, same with villa home and away,beating Arsenal 3-1 away..went down hill after that.

[Bigdoggsteel]

12 minutes ago, AAK said:

Was a funny one with Hodgson, in his first season this was the table at Christmas; Second with 39 points

 

Premier League 97/98 League table Custom table

# Clubs P W D L F A GD Points 1 +1▲

Manchester United

19 13 4 2 45 13 32 43 2 +4▲

Blackburn Rovers

19 11 6 2 36 19 17 39 3 +1▲

Chelsea

19 12 2 5 45 19 26 38 4 +1▲

Leeds United

19 10 4 5 28 19 9 34 5 -2▼

Liverpool

18 9 4 5 31 17 14 31 6 -5▼

Arsenal

18 8 6 4 32 21 11 30 7 +2▲

Derby County

19 8 5 6 33 27 6 29 8 +2▲

Leicester City

19 7 6 6 23 18 5 27 9 +4▲

Newcastle United

18 7 5 6 20 22 -2 26 10 -2▼

West Ham United

19 8 1 10 25 31 -6 25 11 +4▲

Milton Keynes Dons

18 6 5 7 19 21 -2 23 12 -5▼

Aston Villa

19 6 4 9 20 25 -5 22 13 +7▲

Crystal Palace

19 5 6 8 17 25 -8 21 14 +2▲

Sheffield Wednesday

19 6 3 10 31 43 -12 21 15 -3▼

Southampton

19 6 2 11 23 29 -6 20 16 -5▼

Coventry City

19 4 8 7 17 25 -8 20 17 +1▲

Bolton Wanderers

19 4 8 7 16 29 -13 20 18 -4▼

Tottenham Hotspur

19 5 4 10 17 32 -15 19 19 -2▼

Everton

19 4 5 10 17 27 -10 17 20 -1▼

Barnsley

19 4 2 13 17 50 -33 14

2 manager of the month awards as well 

[Wing Wizard Windy Miller]

1 hour ago, 47er said:

Yes, but on the sidelines?

Granted the Wickham rumour has been dismissed but for the right money, he would suit our approach play.  One of those 'gambles' that either pays off massively (like when we signed the injury plagued Santa Cruz on the cheap) or doesn't (like the injury plagued Santa Cruz that City bought from us for 5 times as much ?).

[Mattyblue]

Me and my Dad came away from Highbury thinking we were on the verge of something, battered them. We played some great stuff in the first half of 97/98, alas 1998 as a calendar year was a disaster for Roy and then Jack made a horrendous decison in appointing Kidd.

Jack was spedning big trying to catch up, but it was two years too late 

[tugayislegend]

1 hour ago, Oldgregg86 said:

Micah Richards is a free agent. Can play right back and centre back. Just saying

And he will demand at least 30k a week! Way out of our budget! Same with McCormack

Edited August 14, 2018 by tugayislegend

[Tyrone Shoelaces]

33 minutes ago, AAK said:

Was a funny one with Hodgson, in his first season this was the table at Christmas; Second with 39 points

 

Premier League 97/98 League table Custom table

# Clubs P W D L F A GD Points 1 +1▲

Manchester United

19 13 4 2 45 13 32 43 2 +4▲

Blackburn Rovers

19 11 6 2 36 19 17 39 3 +1▲

Chelsea

19 12 2 5 45 19 26 38 4 +1▲

Leeds United

19 10 4 5 28 19 9 34 5 -2▼

Liverpool

18 9 4 5 31 17 14 31 6 -5▼

Arsenal

18 8 6 4 32 21 11 30 7 +2▲

Derby County

19 8 5 6 33 27 6 29 8 +2▲

Leicester City

19 7 6 6 23 18 5 27 9 +4▲

Newcastle United

18 7 5 6 20 22 -2 26 10 -2▼

West Ham United

19 8 1 10 25 31 -6 25 11 +4▲

Milton Keynes Dons

18 6 5 7 19 21 -2 23 12 -5▼

Aston Villa

19 6 4 9 20 25 -5 22 13 +7▲

Crystal Palace

19 5 6 8 17 25 -8 21 14 +2▲

Sheffield Wednesday

19 6 3 10 31 43 -12 21 15 -3▼

Southampton

19 6 2 11 23 29 -6 20 16 -5▼

Coventry City

19 4 8 7 17 25 -8 20 17 +1▲

Bolton Wanderers

19 4 8 7 16 29 -13 20 18 -4▼

Tottenham Hotspur

19 5 4 10 17 32 -15 19 19 -2▼

Everton

19 4 5 10 17 27 -10 17 20 -1▼

Barnsley

19 4 2 13 17 50 -33 14

And then it all went to shite. How many did he win after that ? How may truly awful players did he sign ? Even Coyle signed Charlie Boy. It's quicker to list the success stories Hodgson had - one,  Stephan Henchoz and he'd managed him with Switzerland.

I remember watching the Italian team he managed on TV. He had four top internationals playing in midfield, Javier Zanetti, Paul Ince, Youri Djorkaeff and Aaron Winter and they were bloody awful to watch.

 

Edited August 14, 2018 by Tyrone Shoelaces

[Bigdoggsteel]

4 minutes ago, tugayislegend said:

And he will demand at least 30k a week! Way out of our budget! Same with McCormack

No, i'd say Richards will have to go on trial somewhere now and earn a deal. There is been out of the team and then there is not playing for 2 years 

Edited August 14, 2018 by Bigdoggsteel

[Tyrone Shoelaces]

38 minutes ago, FGS5635 said:

The bench is important. You cant win things without decent options sat on that bench.

Chapman is a great option to bring on as teams tire late in the game.

Maybe that all he is, if it is then so be it. But he has tremendous upside and potential for a lot more

I agree about the bench. It's a 17 man game these days. 

[Lucimo]

6 minutes ago, Tyrone Shoelaces said:

And then it all went to shite. How many did he win after that ? How may truly awful players did he sign ? Even Coyle signed Charlie Boy. It's quicker to list the success stories Hodgson had - one,  Stephan Henchoz and he'd managed him with Switzerland.

I remember watching the Italian team he managed on TV. He had four top internationals playing in midfield and they were bloody awful to watch.

 

The previous post mentioned perez also and I'd agree with that. Thought he was a fantastic player. Stand to be corrected but think his family failed to settle in this country and he moved back to France 

[Tyrone Shoelaces]

2 minutes ago, JayDee said:

The previous post mentioned perez also and I'd agree with that. Thought he was a fantastic player. Stand to be corrected but think his family failed to settle in this country and he moved back to France 

I agree about Perez, he looked a good signing but just our luck, he didn't settle. That sending off against Chelsea was one of the worst decisions I've ever seen.

[47er]

24 minutes ago, Mattyblue said:

Me and my Dad came away from Highbury thinking we were on the verge of something, battered them. We played some great stuff in the first half of 97/98, alas 1998 as a calendar year was a disaster for Roy and then Jack made a horrendous decison in appointing Kidd.

Jack was spedning big trying to catch up, but it was two years too late 

Ripley's England injury was a big factor but basically managers worked us out---we simply couldn't defend.

[AAK]

22 minutes ago, Tyrone Shoelaces said:

And then it all went to shite. How many did he win after that ? How may truly awful players did he sign ? Even Coyle signed Charlie Boy. It's quicker to list the success stories Hodgson had - one,  Stephan Henchoz and he'd managed him with Switzerland.

I remember watching the Italian team he managed on TV. He had four top internationals playing in midfield, Javier Zanetti, Paul Ince, Youri Djorkaeff and Aaron Winter and they were bloody awful to watch.

 

Second half of season table. Went from 2nd first half to bottom 3 second half;

 

Premier League 97/98 League table Custom table

# Clubs P W D L F A GD Points 1 -

Arsenal

20 15 3 2 36 12 24 48 2 +5▲

Aston Villa

19 11 2 6 29 23 6 35 3 -1▼

Manchester United

19 10 4 5 28 13 15 34 4 -1▼

Liverpool

20 9 7 4 37 25 12 34 5 +6▲

Coventry City

19 8 8 3 29 19 10 32 6 +2▲

West Ham United

19 8 7 4 31 26 5 31 7 +5▲

Southampton

19 8 4 7 27 26 1 28 8 +2▲

Leicester City

19 6 8 5 28 23 5 26 9 -

Derby County

19 8 2 9 19 22 -3 26 10 +4▲

Tottenham Hotspur

19 6 7 6 27 24 3 25 11 -6▼

Leeds United

19 7 4 8 29 27 2 25 12 -8▼

Chelsea

19 8 1 10 26 24 2 25 13 +3▲

Sheffield Wednesday

19 6 5 8 21 24 -3 23 14 +3▲

Everton

19 5 8 6 24 29 -5 23 15 -

Milton Keynes Dons

20 4 9 7 15 25 -10 21 16 +3▲

Barnsley

19 6 3 10 20 32 -12 21 17 +1▲

Bolton Wanderers

19 5 5 9 25 32 -7 20 18 -12▼

Blackburn Rovers

19 5 4 10 21 33 -12 19 19 -6▼

Newcastle United

20 4 6 10 15 22 -7 18 20 -

Crystal Palace

19 3 3 13 20 46 -26 12

[Oldgregg86]

59 minutes ago, tomphil said:

Too right, we might have played half a season of great football and maybe he'd have got us out the mess in October that got him sacked but by the lord he certainly contributed a fair bit of damage that took a few years to sort and a lot of Jacks personal fortune.

Some cheap foreign tosh and some astronomically overpriced English/Welsh/Scottish trash he brought in he clearly had no idea of the British market at the time. Maybe if he'd been allowed to spend big on foreign players like he was used to it would have worked out better.  Two he got right in Henchoz and Perez we probably never got the best out of, also to be fair Williams was new to the job back then and didn't really know his arse from his elbow.

Agree with most of that but stephane henchoz was absolute class and it seems Liverpool agreed. I was gutted when he left