Ben Brereton Diaz

[Tyrone Shoelaces]

20 minutes ago, lraC said:

Was that at New York Cosmos?

I loved Tony Field.

I was wandering through TK Maxx one day and I came across a replica of the New York Cosmo’s shirt that Pele wore in the 1970’s. All white with a proper sewn on number 10. It was just my size so I had to have it. A week or two later I came across the green away shirt so I had that as well.

[Gone to seed]

1 hour ago, LordBaltimore said:

El País, Spain's biggest paper, has an article on Ben Breton today.  Here is the original article:

https://elpais.com/deportes/copa-america-futbol/2021-06-29/ben-brereton-el-necesitado-gol-ingles-de-chile.html

Here is the same article in English from a different source:

Ben Brereton: Chile's (Needed) English Goal

https://pledgetimes.com/ben-brereton-chiles-needed-english-goal/

My favourite line from the English translation:

"He lost bellows, presence and his place in the youth teams of England."

Oh yeah, he lost bellows alright!

[only2garners]

2 hours ago, lraC said:

Was that at New York Cosmos?

I loved Tony Field.

I can claim to have seen Tony Field play for 4 different clubs - Southport, Rovers, Sheffield United and New York Cosmos.

[LordBaltimore]

1 hour ago, WIR Second Coming said:

My favourite line from the English translation:

"He lost bellows, presence and his place in the youth teams of England."

Oh yeah, he lost bellows alright!

when i read the English language article it quickly became obvious it was some sort of Google-Translate lazy copy-paste writing from the original El Pais spanish article.  The spanish word used for "bellows" is fuelle and it is one i have never heard in my life, most likely an iberian word not used in latin america.  I don't even know what a bellow is in English, lol.   

"He lost steam" or "He lost momentum" would have been better, but again, Google Translate.

[Leonard Venkhater]

6 hours ago, JohnGo said:

What would Tony be worth today. Sad day when he left for Sheffield United.

I still tell my kids about some of his goals. I think this was my third Rovers bereavement-after Newton and Knighton.

As a certain, octogenarian songwriter might say, "I used to care, but ..things have changed."

Edited June 30, 2021 by Leonard Venkhater

[rigger]

1 hour ago, Leonard Venkhater said:

I still tell my kids about some of his goals. I think this was my third Rovers bereavement-after Newton and Knighton.

As a certain, octogenarian songwriter might say, "I used to care, but ..things have changed."

Same for me, but with Eamon Rogers thrown in.

Edited June 30, 2021 by rigger

[only2garners]

2 hours ago, only2garners said:

I can claim to have seen Tony Field play for 4 different clubs - Southport, Rovers, Sheffield United and New York Cosmos.

I always felt a particular connection to Tony Field. Whilst Rovers were always my first team, growing up in West Lancs and Southport playing on Friday nights I often went with mates. Then he moved to Rovers and then to Sheffield at the time I moved there to university (although Wednesday were always my team there). Then I got to see him in New York when visiting my brother-in-law.

[Mike E]

2 hours ago, LordBaltimore said:

when i read the English language article it quickly became obvious it was some sort of Google-Translate lazy copy-paste writing from the original El Pais spanish article.  The spanish word used for "bellows" is fuelle and it is one i have never heard in my life, most likely an iberian word not used in latin america.  I don't even know what a bellow is in English, lol.   

"He lost steam" or "He lost momentum" would have been better, but again, Google Translate.

A bellows is like an old school manual pump to pressure air (into an air bed for example). Not sure it's a word that fits.

[Exiled in Toronto]

4 hours ago, Leonard Venkhater said:

I still tell my kids about some of his goals. I think this was my third Rovers bereavement-after Newton and Knighton.

As a certain, octogenarian songwriter might say, "I used to care, but ..things have changed."

4th - Eamonn Rogers

[bazza]

6 hours ago, LordBaltimore said:

when i read the English language article it quickly became obvious it was some sort of Google-Translate lazy copy-paste writing from the original El Pais spanish article.  The spanish word used for "bellows" is fuelle and it is one i have never heard in my life, most likely an iberian word not used in latin america.  I don't even know what a bellow is in English, lol.   

"He lost steam" or "He lost momentum" would have been better, but again, Google Translate.

Bellows are manual pumps for pumping air into a church organ or a blacksmith's forge.

So BB ran out of wind or puff.

[bazza]

2 hours ago, Exiled in Toronto said:

4th - Eamonn Rogers

Rogers became disenchanted with Rovers who were heading for relegation and Eddie Quigley, the manager, told him to play right full back. That was something unheard of in those days for an attacking creative midfielder to go into defence. He was that disillusioned that Rovers couldn't wait to get rid of him.

He went to Charlton Athletic but his career didn't improve there where he picked up a bad injury.

A very disillusioned man who refuses to talk about his footballing days even today.

[rigger]

5 minutes ago, bazza said:

Rogers became disenchanted with Rovers who were heading for relegation and Eddie Quigley, the manager, told him to play right full back. That was something unheard of in those days for an attacking creative midfielder to go into defence. He was that disillusioned that Rovers couldn't wait to get rid of him.

He went to Charlton Athletic but his career didn't improve there where he picked up a bad injury.

A very disillusioned man who refuses to talk about his footballing days even today.

He was still a hero to me.

[Tyrone Shoelaces]

12 minutes ago, bazza said:

Rogers became disenchanted with Rovers who were heading for relegation and Eddie Quigley, the manager, told him to play right full back. That was something unheard of in those days for an attacking creative midfielder to go into defence. He was that disillusioned that Rovers couldn't wait to get rid of him.

He went to Charlton Athletic but his career didn't improve there where he picked up a bad injury.

A very disillusioned man who refuses to talk about his footballing days even today.

He had it all, he could have been anything he wanted to be. I saw him playing at right back, he looked like he was playing in an armchair, he was a natural.

Edited June 30, 2021 by Tyrone Shoelaces

[LordBaltimore]

Two English-language articles from today about Ben Diez:

 

Meet Ben, The Englishman Who Doesn't Speak Spanish Playing For Chile In Copa América

https://the18.com/soccer-entertainment/why-does-brereton-play-for-chile

 

From Blackburn to Brazil: Chile Revelation Brereton Lighting Up The Copa América Along With Messi & Neymar

https://www.goal.com/en-us/news/from-blackburn-to-brazil-chile-revelation-brereton-lighting/1o7uva13bqpr1wjp3r703jcwt

[Exiled in Toronto]

3 hours ago, rigger said:

He was still a hero to me.

Me too. The first three things I learned to shout at a match were “Get stuck in!” “Get rid!” and “Give it Eamonn!”

[LeftWinger]

On 29/06/2021 at 17:55, lraC said:

Brereton in the same team as Messi. That’s the stuff of dreams.

He's a free agent now - maybe we should make it happen.

It'll be like the Ronaldinho stuff all over again 😂

[TheRoversReturn]

Have to say, it's a lot more fun following Brereton playing for Chile this summer than it ever has been following him play for Rovers these past three years! 😀

[Madon]

I'm curious to know if there is any other championship player with a bigger social media following than Ben. He's just surpassed 800,000 on Instagram!

[Bigdoggsteel]

3 minutes ago, Madon said:

I'm curious to know if there is any other championship player with a bigger social media following than Ben. He's just surpassed 800,000 on Instagram!

No way. That's mental. He must have gotten about 700,000 followers since the Copa America? 

[Madon]

14 minutes ago, Bigdoggsteel said:

No way. That's mental. He must have gotten about 700,000 followers since the Copa America? 

I've watched it go from 300,000 to 800,000 within a few weeks. Crazy numbers!

[lraC]

23 hours ago, only2garners said:

I can claim to have seen Tony Field play for 4 different clubs - Southport, Rovers, Sheffield United and New York Cosmos.

Brilliant. I was asked today, which other Rovers player was Field most like. I can’t think of anyone, in the same mould, can you? 

[DeeCee]

1 hour ago, lraC said:

Brilliant. I was asked today, which other Rovers player was Field most like. I can’t think of anyone, in the same mould, can you? 

Francis Jeffers in the best game of his career?

[HowieFive0]

1 hour ago, Madon said:

I've watched it go from 300,000 to 800,000 within a few weeks. Crazy numbers!

Its not just Bens ...every official rovers post on instagram is flooded with responses in spanish.

Sam Barnes signing a new contract had possibly 6 ? comments in English ..the other 35 or so all in Spanish ..madness ..

https://www.instagram.com/p/CQv8l4XIx5b/?utm_source=ig_web_copy_link

[rigger]

1 hour ago, lraC said:

Brilliant. I was asked today, which other Rovers player was Field most like. I can’t think of anyone, in the same mould, can you? 

The good points of a hybrid, Matt Jansen/Damien Duff

[lraC]

46 minutes ago, rigger said:

The good points of a hybrid, Matt Jansen/Damien Duff

That might be cheating. I think Field was a one off, especially in the old Third division.