Tony Mowbray Discussion

[DeeCee]

10 hours ago, oldjamfan1 said:

Calm down calm down lads

 

[Armchair supporter supremo]

 

To continue the scouse theme...Mowbray after this season if we don't make the playoffs.

Edited March 1, 2022 by Armchair supporter supremo

[Upside Down]

On 02/03/2022 at 12:20, Armchair supporter supremo said:

 

To continue the scouse theme...Mowbray after this season if we don't make the playoffs.

He will be here next year don't you worry. 

[G Somerset Rover]

Mowbray clearly has us punching above expectation this season so deserves some slack but I can’t help but feel he’s getting a very easy ride from fans and the media with this barren goal scoring run. Yes, any team would miss their main goalscorer but to score just 3 times in 11 matches, 1 in the last seven and have no open play goal for 600+ minutes is ridiculously poor. It’s unacceptable but all we get is a shrug of the shoulders, and at best, a Bayes will ask ‘are you concerned by the lack of goals Tony?’.

I was told by a ‘fan’ yesterday on Twitter to be happy with one shot on target: ‘what do you expect?’ More than that FFS!

Recruitment, or lack of, has played a huge part (and we will likely argue about that for years to come), but Mowbray’s stubbornness to adapt the system, or work on a plan B, has cost us hugely since the turn of the year, and that cost could well be our play-off place.

Edited March 6, 2022 by Gavlar Somerset Rover!

[gazzaa2]

On 28/02/2022 at 14:00, chaddyrovers said:

The tactics suits the squad and having a smaller squad is working for us. But on lesser wage budget aswell. 

Given the budget and squad size Mowbray had last season he should have got us top 6 for sure

Elliott here as well and Armstrong banging in 30 goals in what was a weak division. Not to be even in play off contention was a rank failure when you look at crap like Barnsley and Swansea made it in there.

Done well this season and a 20+ goal striker should have you in contention. It's a funny league again, who'd have had Huddersfield in 2nd place in March?

Edited March 6, 2022 by gazzaa2

[Tyrone Shoelaces]

10 minutes ago, gazzaa2 said:

Elliott here as well and Armstrong banging in 30 goals in what was a weak division. Not to be even in play off contention was a rank failure when you look at crap like Barnsley and Swansea made it in there.

Done well this season and a 20+ goal striker should have you in contention. It's a funny league again, who'd have had Huddersfield in 2nd place in March?

At this level the manager can make a massive difference.

[Armchair supporter supremo]

6 hours ago, Upside Down said:

He will be here next year don't you worry. 

And i probably wont be, nor will the thousands of season tkt holders that have faded away, we need an inspirational charismatic manager to bring some positivity back to match days, Mowbray ran out of ideas about 3 years ago, if it wasn't for Breretons suprise freak goal streak we'd be rooted in the bottom half

[Miller11]

If Mowbray doesn’t get us in the playoffs this year he never will. We might be performing above start of season expectations, but those expectations have been reassessed and failure to get in the playoffs is failure full stop.

I’m clinging to the hope that we can not only make them, but also win them. If not, next season doesn’t bear thinking about.

[matt83]

7 minutes ago, Miller11 said:

If Mowbray doesn’t get us in the playoffs this year he never will. We might be performing above start of season expectations, but those expectations have been reassessed and failure to get in the playoffs is failure full stop.

I’m clinging to the hope that we can not only make them, but also win them. If not, next season doesn’t bear thinking about.

I think that’s the irony with this season. If we were bumbling around our usual 11th-15th zone which many seem thrilled by finishing 7th he’d more than likely get an open top bus parade en route to sign a big fat juicy contract extension. However, because we were in 2nd in February if we finish 7th now it will be seen as a disaster and it could spell the end of him. 

[jim mk2]

10 minutes ago, Miller11 said:

If Mowbray doesn’t get us in the playoffs this year he never will. We might be performing above start of season expectations, but those expectations have been reassessed and failure to get in the playoffs is failure full stop..

From the position we were in, 2nd place, and with a fair wind, in with a chance of challenging for the top, failure to qualify for the play-offs would see most managers sacked

But the same has been said of Tony many times over the past 5 years so unless he decides he's had enough and resigns he'll still be here next season. My feeling is he will carry on - football is a drug and he loves the rush of it. Like Hodgson, Wenger etc some of them cannot let go

[chaddyrovers]

42 minutes ago, gazzaa2 said:

Elliott here as well and Armstrong banging in 30 goals in what was a weak division. Not to be even in play off contention was a rank failure when you look at crap like Barnsley and Swansea made it in there.

Done well this season and a 20+ goal striker should have you in contention. It's a funny league again, who'd have had Huddersfield in 2nd place in March?

I don't think either Swansea and Barnsley were crap at all but had managers who played a way to get the best out of that squad. 

Last season we should have got top 6 given how Mowbray was backed in terms of signings and the quality he signed. 

No-one but they played to their strengths but I feel they might hit the buffer zone shortly looking at their run in 

[RoversClitheroe]

Genuinely don't think Gallagher or Hedges should be near our starting 11.

Dolan, Buckley, Giles please.

[G Somerset Rover]

On 06/03/2022 at 10:56, Gavlar Somerset Rover! said:

Mowbray clearly has us punching above expectation this season so deserves some slack but I can’t help but feel he’s getting a very easy ride from fans and the media with this barren goal scoring run. Yes, any team would miss their main goalscorer but to score just 3 times in 11 matches, 1 in the last seven and have no open play goal for 600+ minutes is ridiculously poor. It’s unacceptable but all we get is a shrug of the shoulders, and at best, a Bayes will ask ‘are you concerned by the lack of goals Tony?’.

I was told by a ‘fan’ yesterday on Twitter to be happy with one shot on target: ‘what do you expect?’ More than that FFS!

Recruitment, or lack of, has played a huge part (and we will likely argue about that for years to come), but Mowbray’s stubbornness to adapt the system, or work on a plan B, has cost us hugely since the turn of the year, and that cost could well be our play-off place.

Updated: 3 goals in 12, 1 in the last 8 and no open play goal for 700+ minutes.

It’s indefensible yet as above, nobody is bringing him to task on it.

[davulsukur]

Back to his absolute frustrating best.

Season is just going fizzle out to a slide into midtable.

Rothwell, Nyambe, Lenihan all walk. No funds to replace.

Khadra, Giles and Van Heke all return to their clubs.

Next season will be a real struggle.

[RoversClitheroe]

33 minutes ago, Gavlar Somerset Rover! said:

Updated: 3 goals in 12, 1 in the last 8 and no open play goal for 700+ minutes.

It’s indefensible yet as above, nobody is bringing him to task on it.

Very scary stats

[arbitro]

32 minutes ago, davulsukur said:

Back to his absolute frustrating best.

Season is just going fizzle out to a slide into midtable.

Rothwell, Nyambe, Lenihan all walk. No funds to replace.

Khadra, Giles and Van Heke all return to their clubs.

Next season will be a real struggle.

Lots of the more reasoned fans have been saying for a while now that this was our best chance of going up and if we didn't there will be a huge turnover in personnel as another rebuild will be required. Instead we signed stocking fillers who padded out the squad but contribute very little on the field. You reap what you sow.

[simongarnerisgod]

6 minutes ago, arbitro said:

Lots of the more reasoned fans have been saying for a while now that this was our best chance of going up and if we didn't there will be a huge turnover in personnel as another rebuild will be required. Instead we signed stocking fillers who padded out the squad but contribute very little on the field. You reap what you sow.

well hopefully mowbray won`t be here next season,clean slate for everybody,fans and playing staff alike

[Waggy76]

2 hours ago, davulsukur said:

Back to his absolute frustrating best.

Season is just going fizzle out to a slide into midtable.

Rothwell, Nyambe, Lenihan all walk. No funds to replace.

Khadra, Giles and Van Heke all return to their clubs.

Next season will be a real struggle.8

I thought this season would be a struggle , shows how much I know...

After the Fulham at home debacle , Mowbray accidentally found a winning formula , which worked wonderfully well for two months..

Other teams sussed us  out but Mowbray,  didn't know how he had found the winning formula .

So , started to tinker at Wigan , the rest is history ....

Hedges , a left back from Wolves , a kid from Spurs ....

BBD got injured , no back up ..

If Jack was alive ,he would have done everything in his power to give us a fighting chance of going up come May ...

Whether the manager or the owners are to blame or both , I don't know .

But the fans , have been let down again cos promotion was there for the taking this season.....

The Hedges signing stinks to high heaven , once upon a time we signed Eyal Bercovic and he could play !

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

[roversfan99]

3 hours ago, RoversClitheroe said:

Genuinely don't think Gallagher or Hedges should be near our starting 11.

Dolan, Buckley, Giles please.

Scraping the barrel with all 5. That front 3 has barely 10 career goals between it.

We are unfortunate with Armstrong sold and no money given by Venkys to replace him, Brereton being injured and Gallagher the dud of the 3 being the only one available. Dack also injured who is also a goalscorer further hinders us.

The other 4 are a 200k winger from Aberdeen, a loanee, a kid playing his first season of regular football and a kid released by Preston last season. Throw in another couple of kids on loan both injured who again havent barely played senior football before this season. Not the armoury a promotion chasing team needs. Brereton and Dack couldnt be more missed.

[G Somerset Rover]

Feels like I’ve been so caught up in the lack of goals that this latest death spiral hasn’t been front of mind. The one goal in eight quite obviously equates to one win in eight (3 in 12 and so forth). We thought the rot had stopped after QPR but this latest death spiral is rolling on.

[RoversClitheroe]

7 hours ago, roversfan99 said:

Scraping the barrel with all 5. That front 3 has barely 10 career goals between it.

We are unfortunate with Armstrong sold and no money given by Venkys to replace him, Brereton being injured and Gallagher the dud of the 3 being the only one available. Dack also injured who is also a goalscorer further hinders us.

The other 4 are a 200k winger from Aberdeen, a loanee, a kid playing his first season of regular football and a kid released by Preston last season. Throw in another couple of kids on loan both injured who again havent barely played senior football before this season. Not the armoury a promotion chasing team needs. Brereton and Dack couldnt be more missed.

Other than the bid of £1.5m to Dembele?

[JHRover]

9 minutes ago, RoversClitheroe said:

Other than the bid of £1.5m to Dembele?

Red herring IMO 

If a bid was made it was done too late or knowing that he was heading elsewhere. We were just trying to get the free positive publicity that comes with it.

A quick look at our transfer business over the last 4-5 windows shows we don't part with significant cash for sought after players from rival clubs.

If by some miracle a bid was made and accepted the move would have broken down due to wage or agent demands.

We are played by Waggott and co. every window.

[islander200]

3 minutes ago, JHRover said:

Red herring IMO 

If a bid was made it was done too late or knowing that he was heading elsewhere. We were just trying to get the free positive publicity that comes with it.

A quick look at our transfer business over the last 4-5 windows shows we don't part with significant cash for sought after players from rival clubs.

If by some miracle a bid was made and accepted the move would have broken down due to wage or agent demands.

We are played by Waggott and co. every window.

Free publicity?

The club knew that the Peterborough chairman would announce our agreed fee?Or did I miss Rovers statement that we had a bid accepted for him?

[JHRover]

3 minutes ago, islander200 said:

Free publicity?

The club knew that the Peterborough chairman would announce our agreed fee?Or did I miss Rovers statement that we had a bid accepted for him?

All sorts of ways they can get word out on the grapevine. Rich Sharpe and co. the usual. 

Costs nothing to make bids especially when you know they are likely to fail. 

[G Somerset Rover]

Dembele isn’t a striker either. He would have joined the wide forward club along with the countless others that we currently have on our books.

Edited March 9, 2022 by Gavlar Somerset Rover!