Brentford (A) - Saturday 5.12.20

[roversfan99]

Just now, only2garners said:

Apart from Wednesday when he came on and played excellently including having a hand in creating the winning goal?

I would disagree that he played excellently, I thought he look a bit lost.

[chaddyrovers]

1 minute ago, joey_big_nose said:

Elliot right, Armstrong left that's good. Butbracing myself for Gallagher wide right and Elliott as a false 9...

Armstrong will play the 9 role

[LDRover]

Said earlier in the thread that Holtby has become less effective due to the opposition pressing the defence and blocking the ball into midfield.

I feel today Brentford will play their own game and not just try to nullify us as the onus is on them to dictate meaning we'll get more space. Without Holtby we'll struggle to dictate any play and I'm calling it now that we're going to struggle.

[Sparks Rover]

1 minute ago, only2garners said:

Apart from Wednesday when he came on and played excellently including having a hand in creating the winning goal?

Come on. He kicked it 5 yards to someone.  He didn't play as you suggest, he was knocked off  the ball twice in the time he was on and passed backwards or sideways for the majority of the time he was on.  Not sure why he's getting a special pass really.  I know tonnes of better players 17/18/19  years old that are way ahead of him.  His physicality is a problem too in this league. 

[only2garners]

1 minute ago, roversfan99 said:

I would disagree that he played excellently, I thought he look a bit lost.

There does seem to be a big divergence of opinion on Buckley. I generally like what I see most of the time and on the Millwall thread there were another couple of posters who agreed with me and a couple with you. What can’t really be argued was his play in the winning goal move.

[K-Hod]

Might be in a minority here, but I quite like that side... More steel in midfield to contain and frustrate them (so long as it works!)

Got options on the bench for later too.

[Tugay-is-God]

Think this is gonna be a really tough one, you can't underestimate how big a boost having fans back could give them.

[JacknOry]

12 minutes ago, chaddyrovers said:

Armstrong will play the 9 role

Always talking in fact. Lets wait first shall we?

A simple "I think" or IMO goes a long way.

Edited December 5, 2020 by JacknOry

[West Yorks Rover]

2 minutes ago, Tugay-is-God said:

Think this is gonna be a really tough one, you can't underestimate how big a boost having fans back could give them.

How many fans are they allowed ?

[joey_big_nose]

13 minutes ago, chaddyrovers said:

Armstrong will play the 9 role

Much rather have Armstrong on the wing than Gallagher.

Going off precious games they will probably swap around a bit to be honest.

[joey_big_nose]

1 minute ago, West Yorks Rover said:

How many fans are they allowed ?

1000.

[chaddyrovers]

3 minutes ago, joey_big_nose said:

Much rather have Armstrong on the wing than Gallagher.

Going off precious games they will probably swap around a bit to be honest.

Why would anyone want Armstrong wide is just baffling after his goal scoring record from that 9.position

[Bigdoggsteel]

Big call bringing Wharton back. A few on here completely ruled the possibility of that out, I think the line was "that's Wharton gone now". Anyone prepared to put their hands up and say they got that call wrong? Mowbray favouring youth again. 

Need a big game from Johnson. I'm not too bothered about Holtby, he looks to be struggling physically with so many games. I imagine Trybull and Johnson will hold the middle,giving Rothwell licence to run at them. 

2-2 

 

[superniko]

Disappointed that he’s resting Holtby, but glad Wharton is back in as he hasn’t put a foot wrong yet. 

Imagine this place at 5pm if we come out with 3 points!

[Tyrone Shoelaces]

I'm not happy with the midfield either. Could be another game lost in team selection.

[philipl]

The cardboard cut-outs are moving.

[Bigdoggsteel]

2 minutes ago, Tyrone Shoelaces said:

I'm not happy with the midfield either. Could be another game lost in team selection.

What could he do with Holtby clearly struggling to maintain his levels? He put a pic on Instagram the other day of him having 4 back to back cryo sessions to help him recover. 

Edited December 5, 2020 by Bigdoggsteel

[islander200]

28 minutes ago, roversfan99 said:

Buckley tends to look well off it whenever he plays aside from when he has come on v 10 men in games we have already been in comfortable leads.

Even if Downing could play an hour and then we could make a decision from there, if we are losing or drawing we could bring on Holtby or if we were winning we could add a second defensive player.

Ayala did look very rusty and the Wharton recall seems fair to me, although I suppose Ayala could argue that the only way the rust will go is if he plays regularly.

Was Buckley playing against ten men v QPR?As he didn't look lost in that game .

Disagree he looked lost the other night,he did ok.

He is a young player finding his feet in the division but he can pick out a forward pass and keeps the ball moving.Would have given him a start today if Holtby was to be rested.

[Dreams of 1995]

24 minutes ago, Sparks Rover said:

Come on. He kicked it 5 yards to someone.  He didn't play as you suggest, he was knocked off  the ball twice in the time he was on and passed backwards or sideways for the majority of the time he was on.  Not sure why he's getting a special pass really.  I know tonnes of better players 17/18/19  years old that are way ahead of him.  His physicality is a problem too in this league. 

I’m sorry Sparks but you keep saying that. At this level what 17/18/19 years old are there that are passing like he is? 
 

He wasn’t spectacular when he came on but he had a better time of it than you’re making out. 
 

You told us Mols was better. He’s mincing it in the Spanish lower leagues now. I think Buckley has a a better player than you make out. 

[Miker]

I think we've looked a worse team with 2 DMs playing, but against one of the better sides in Brentford it might be sensible. Today is all about the 3 points, so if we can keep control of possession and nick a 1-0 win I would be very happy.

We have dropped too many points against the teams challenging for promotion. Now that we're on a good run, it's vital for us to pick up some points in the next 2 games against promotion rivals. 

[only2garners]

15 minutes ago, joey_big_nose said:

1000.

They're allowed 2,000. Maybe they are choosing only to let in 1,000, but they can have 2,000 in Tier 2.

[Exiled_Rover]

27 minutes ago, K-Hod said:

Might be in a minority here, but I quite like that side... More steel in midfield to contain and frustrate them (so long as it works!)

Got options on the bench for later too.

I don't like playing Trybull and Johnson together. Neither is creative enough.

[USABlue]

Wharton back in.  Well done Tony Mowbray for proving me wrong.

[Stuart]

Poor Neil. This iFollow ‘product’ really is shit.

[Stuart]

Today is where we find out how far we have come under Mowbray.

A win would be a real statement. A defeat would show we are still not where we need to be. A draw will divide opinion.