Mowbrays Successor

[oldjamfan1]

Just now, rover1988 said:

Unfinished business for Woy perhaps. Think we're the only English club he failed with.

Liverpool?

[rover1988]

Just now, oldjamfan1 said:

Liverpool?

True, blimey forgot he was there for a bit.

[jim mk2]

Liverpool was too big a job and club for him (same with England), and he doesn't like the criticism that went with it., The likes of Palace and Rovers is his level. He won't get a job in the Prem again and he might fancy a Rovers return. 

[RoverKyle]

I wouldn't want Hodgson. He's very much in the Mowbray mold, albeit has operated at a much higher level for most of his career. Maybe we can't be picky and he'd be classed as a coup at this stage.

[rigger]

Was Roy good for Blackburn Rovers then, No. Would he be good for Blackburn Rovers now, No.

[martonrover]

Hodgson has stated he is having a break from football. Why would he leave Premier League Crystal Palace to join Rovers?

At 73, perhaps if and when he returns to football it will be in more of a director of football type capacity.

 

[LDRover]

5 hours ago, dallydally said:

Thought this thread was about Mowbray's successor?

 

It is. It's going to be Nuttall.

[Rogerb]

Didn't Roy have us top of the premier league at Christmas before eventually finishing 7th?. Positions we can only dream of in the championship these days.

[Gordon Gekko]

10 minutes ago, Rogerb said:

Didn't Roy have us top of the premier league at Christmas before eventually finishing 7th?. Positions we can only dream of in the championship these days.

I’ve got that season on VHS. Started like a house on fire but ended shockingly with Alan Fettis in the sticks! took the awful form into the next season and got relegated.

[Mike E]

32 minutes ago, Gordon Gekko said:

I’ve got that season on VHS. Started like a house on fire but ended shockingly with Alan Fettis in the sticks! took the awful form into the next season and got relegated.

Reverse Leicester?

[RevidgeBlue]

32 minutes ago, Gordon Gekko said:

I’ve got that season on VHS. Started like a house on fire but ended shockingly with Alan Fettis in the sticks! took the awful form into the next season and got relegated.

Yeah the bad form lasted from Christmas until he was sacked in or around October the following season.

Managed to split the dressing room right down the middle between what was left of the 94/95 side who had previously done the business and most of his god awful signings.

Wouldn't want him even if he was ten years younger and at 73 he's too old imo.  Saw him on the touchline the other day and physically I thought he looked like he'd deteriorated a lot in the last eighteen months or so.

[Waggy76]

Hodgson inherited a good squad  ( Shearer gone) that had one season left in them , well 3/4 quarters anyway...

Problem was like Mowbray he couldn't build another team once players from Kenny's team left.....

Money was available but badly spent , it could be argued that if he had continued until the of the season , wee wouldn't have gone down...as Kidd was a total disaster , Hodgson was a manager like Moyes , once the expectations were raised , he was found badly wanting ...

[RevidgeBlue]

7 minutes ago, Waggy76 said:

Hodgson inherited a good squad  ( Shearer gone) that had one season left in them , well 3/4 quarters anyway...

Problem was like Mowbray he couldn't build another team once players from Kenny's team left.....

Money was available but badly spent , it could be argued that if he had continued until the of the season , wee wouldn't have gone down...as Kidd was a total disaster , Hodgson was a manager like Moyes , once the expectations were raised , he was found badly wanting ...

Just had a look at his wiki page he concedes that to his credit Jack Walker offered him the chance to resign with a full pay off rather than be sacked to protect his reputation as he (Roy) wasn't enjoying it.

He admits now was too arrogant and refused as he thought he was doing nothing wrong at the time in terms of coaching the team and believed he could pull it round. This left Jack no chance but to sack him. (We were bottom at the time)

I never knew any of that. Personally I've no doubt had he stayed we'd have gone down, probably with less points than under Kidd.

[tomphil]

3 hours ago, RoverKyle said:

I wouldn't want Hodgson. He's very much in the Mowbray mold, albeit has operated at a much higher level for most of his career. Maybe we can't be picky and he'd be classed as a coup at this stage.

Bang on, said a few times iv'e always thought Mowbray is like a lower league Hodgson. 

Asks too much from some bang average players, attacking full backs, complicated systems. Multiple in game changes and doesn't know how to recruit good center backs or target men. Doesn't make the best use of the backing he had and an obsession with playing guys out of position.

That's before we start with the waffle and demeanour.

[Ewood Ace]

I said Neil Critchley a while back and since then he his Blackpool team have gone from strength to strength. They looked such a well drilled organised side tonight and won at a canter. He looks to be an impressive up and coming manager with a bright future ahead of him. He's exactly the sort of manager a progressive club would be going for rather than someone whose best years are behind him.

[chaddyrovers]

13 hours ago, Butty said:

Nuttall decent enough? He can’t get a game in league one. He’s a poor player Chaddy who will end up in the conference 

Did a decent enough job here. No idea what happened to his career still leaving here. 

9 hours ago, roversfan99 said:

McBride wouldnt have played in central midfield anyway.

Totally agree that Mowbray should have taken a longer term view in his team selections towards the end of the season, but for me it should have been the young lads already on the fringes playing in that they are most likely to play next season, for example the midfield 3 on the last day which hadnt been seen prior, or maybe Dolan out wide.

But Mowbray did have 7 midfielders on bench but no strikers against Birmingham for example. Did we really need that many on bench? We need 3 or 4 midfielders then a couples strikers on bench plus a couple of defenders on there

[Butty]

13 minutes ago, chaddyrovers said:

Did a decent enough job here. No idea what happened to his career still leaving here. 

But Mowbray did have 7 midfielders on bench but no strikers against Birmingham for example. Did we really need that many on bench? We need 3 or 4 midfielders then a couples strikers on bench plus a couple of defenders on there

No he didn’t 😂 he was shite, popped up with the odd goal in the box but his overall play was garbage. 

[chaddyrovers]

52 minutes ago, Butty said:

No he didn’t 😂 he was shite, popped up with the odd goal in the box but his overall play was garbage. 

Clearly we have agree to disagree on this

[JacknOry]

Come on, Nuttall was pretty useless tbh. Samuel was better and thats saying something. Both now struggling to perform in the league one.

For contrast, Samuel is now 27 and has scored 25 goals in his career (133 games), most of those at Leauge One level. Armstrong is younger and scored more than that in one season at Championship level

Nuttall has played 1 match (36 minutes) in 20/21 for a League One side, scoring 0. 

[LeftWinger]

It's the amount of money Hodgson/Kidd spent in the relegation season that was frightening.

Jimmy Corbett - 525k (Waste of money)

Kevin Davies - 7.5m (Huge waste of money)

Sebastien Perez - 3m (Talented, but homesick)

Darren Peacock - Free (Not as bad as people make out, but no Hendry/Berg)

Christian Daily - 5.3m (Huge waste of money)

Oumar Konde - 500k (Did he ever play?)

Nathan Blake - 4.25m (Did OK in division 1, but definitely a panic buy when Dion Dublin turned us down)

Keith Gillespie - 2.35m (I liked him, but hit and miss)

Ashley Ward - 4.5m (Hated him at the time, but we've had far worse since, but a waste of money)

Matt Jansen - 4.1m (One of the few success stories and about the only good thing Kidd did)

Jason McAteer - 4m (Another panic buy, did OK in patches and scored at Turf Moor - good memories)

David McNamee - 300k (Did he ever play?)

Burton O'Brien - 300k (Did he ever play?)

Lee Carsley - 3.4m (Did OK in division 1 before deciding he was too good for us, didn't like the guy, bit of a plodder)

 

To put those figures into some kind of perspective value wise:

Freddie Ljungberg to Arsenal - 3m (Sep 98)

Sami Hyypia to Liverpool - 3m (May 99)

We absolutely outspent everyone in the division and got relegated.

[47er]

4 minutes ago, LeftWinger said:

It's the amount of money Hodgson/Kidd spent in the relegation season that was frightening.

Jimmy Corbett - 525k (Waste of money)

Kevin Davies - 7.5m (Huge waste of money)

Sebastien Perez - 3m (Talented, but homesick)

Darren Peacock - Free (Not as bad as people make out, but no Hendry/Berg)

Christian Daily - 5.3m (Huge waste of money)

Oumar Konde - 500k (Did he ever play?)

Nathan Blake - 4.25m (Did OK in division 1, but definitely a panic buy when Dion Dublin turned us down)

Keith Gillespie - 2.35m (I liked him, but hit and miss)

Ashley Ward - 4.5m (Hated him at the time, but we've had far worse since, but a waste of money)

Matt Jansen - 4.1m (One of the few success stories and about the only good thing Kidd did)

Jason McAteer - 4m (Another panic buy, did OK in patches and scored at Turf Moor - good memories)

David McNamee - 300k (Did he ever play?)

Burton O'Brien - 300k (Did he ever play?)

Lee Carsley - 3.4m (Did OK in division 1 before deciding he was too good for us, didn't like the guy, bit of a plodder)

 

To put those figures into some kind of perspective value wise:

Freddie Ljungberg to Arsenal - 3m (Sep 98)

Sami Hyypia to Liverpool - 3m (May 99)

We absolutely outspent everyone in the division and got relegated.

Looking at around £36M there. A fortune then.Absolutely unbelievable the mess Hodgson made of that plumb job.

[Mattyblue]

The second half of the 90s saw a spectacular decline, especially so when you see the cash we spent between 97 and 99. All goes back to the decisions made in the summer of ‘95.

Edited May 19, 2021 by Mattyblue

[jim mk2]

3 minutes ago, 47er said:

Looking at around £36M there. A fortune then.Absolutely unbelievable the mess Hodgson made of that plumb job.

Would you take him now instead of Mowbray though? 

[perthblue02]

16 minutes ago, LeftWinger said:

 

Burton O'Brien - 300k (Did he ever play?)

Apparently 1 appearance must have been a cup game because according wiki 

"O'Brien blamed his lack of first-team action on a clause in his contract, saying that a league appearance would mean Blackburn had to pay St Mirren an extra £300,000"

 

[Ulrich]

8 minutes ago, Mattyblue said:

The second half of the 90s saw a spectacular decline, especially so when you see the cash we spent between 97 and 99. All goes back to the decisions made in the summer of ‘95.

Jack appears to have had a soft touch at times when he perhaps needed to be more ruthless. I'm not critising Jack, he did wonders but looking back when Kenny stepped upstairs, we should have recruited a new man. Zidane and Dugarry would also have bee nice 👍