Blackburn Rovers vs Brentford, Friday, March 12.

[pick32]

It’s a freak injury, I want Mowbray out but some fans will really find pathetic things to pick at

[Bigdoggsteel]

1 minute ago, Chernosamba said:

You really can’t hammer fragile players . Dack and travis injured again 

I wouldn't say they are fragile though. Dack just so, so unlucky 

[Hoochie Bloochie Mama]

Just now, Bigdoggsteel said:

It was the type of thing that could have happened at any time. Just unfortunate. So unfortunate. I don't think anyone is to blame. Brutal stuff 

Agreed, it's horrendous, but as J*B pointed out he'll have spent so much time compensating for his bad leg his good leg will have been under increased tension. So 3 games in 6 days is stupid IMO. 

[Hoochie Bloochie Mama]

Just now, pick32 said:

It’s a freak injury, I want Mowbray out but some fans will really find pathetic things to pick at

You're missing the point.

[Tormund]

2 minutes ago, Wovers said:

He’s 27 he’s not a kid mate, he’s not good enough to be a premier league player, feel sorry for him, but he’s not a premier league player, no matter how harsh that sounds.

Maybe would have been without either injury. Who knows.

[Wing Wizard Windy Miller]

So sad for Dack.  If that's his other knee gone, his career at a higher level has pretty much gone with it. 

On another note, the lack of player consistency is infuriating.  No doubt this is down to the constant chopping and changing/pissing around with tactics and positions but not one player can put 2 or 3 decent, consecutive performances together.

 

[Gamst]

So dissapointed for Dacky. Going to take a huge deal of determination to get back to fitness. 3 games in 6 days is too much for a player who hasn't looked like he's back to full fitness yet. Especially after being out for so long with such a serious injury. We were chasing the game but the season is pretty much over so keeping him on was unnecessary. In his post-match interview Tony said that player welfare is the priority, but Dack has been mismanaged here. 

[Bigdoggsteel]

2 minutes ago, Hoochie Bloochie Mama said:

Agreed, it's horrendous, but as J*B pointed out he'll have spent so much time compensating for his bad leg his good leg will have been under increased tension. So 3 games in 6 days is stupid IMO. 

Thats not what caused it though. It was an impact injury. He could have been taken off at half time and it could have happened a minute into the next game. Just a freak and very unfortunate incident. 

[Hoochie Bloochie Mama]

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[Bigdoggsteel]

Didn't Ings come back from 2 ACL injuries? 

[RoverKyle]

28 minutes ago, J*B said:

I’m no physio but I believe if the lower leg has a certain lack of movement it can only be ACL. You need the MRI to confirm it, but it’s always the case. 

Yeah, they do a relatively simple test by moving your leg and checking resistance in the knee. At the hospital they knew straight away with a good degree of confidence that it was the ACL. Only ended up having an MRI a month or so after to check for secondary damage & that confirmed it. 

I did mine in August 2019 & was lucky to be back playing casual 5 aside by January 2020. Only had a couple of months easing back in before covid hit. Just walking the dog & walking around the house I can get aches & pains in both knees. Doing the ACL in both knees is going to really limit his playing career. Feel so bad for him.

[pick32]

9 minutes ago, Hoochie Bloochie Mama said:

You're missing the point.

Really not people are just blind sided

[windymiller7]

Just feel sick tbh. Actually don't care about the result. 

It all seems so avoidable with better management. From the pitch to Mowbray being desperate for results. 

You've also got to wonder what advice our so called medical staff have been giving recently. If they're saying certain players need more rest then why has this been ignored, if they're not, then why not given the amount of recurring injuries we're getting! 

[windymiller7]

7 minutes ago, Hoochie Bloochie Mama said:

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I spotted that at the time. To think he got booked for telling the truth!

[Hoochie Bloochie Mama]

Just now, Bigdoggsteel said:

Thats not what caused it though. It was an impact injury. He could have been taken off at half time and it could have happened a minute into the next game. Just a freak and very unfortunate incident. 

An impact that might not have caused if it wasn't in such a stressed state. An ACL on the other knee is a known risk when returning from injury to the opposite ACL.  

Second ACL injuries six times more likely after reconstruction, study finds -- ScienceDaily

[Hoochie Bloochie Mama]

8 minutes ago, Gamst said:

So dissapointed for Dacky. Going to take a huge deal of determination to get back to fitness. 3 games in 6 days is too much for a player who hasn't looked like he's back to full fitness yet. Especially after being out for so long with such a serious injury. We were chasing the game but the season is pretty much over so keeping him on was unnecessary. In his post-match interview Tony said that player welfare is the priority, but Dack has been mismanaged here. 

I agree. Common sense dictates 3 games in a week is too much for a guy who isn't fully fit and has been out for a year. 

[SBlue]

Hindsight goggles working overtime here lads.

 

You don’t always have to have one up.

Its an acl. It can happen any time.

[tomphil]

That's the kind of challenge you throw yourself in when you are frustrated. Every right to go for it and i don't attach any blame to Raya. Legitimate calls for a pen though they've been given.

Tactics and formation all wrong yet again in the first half, looked so much better after the break with the changes. Although they let us play a bit more and looked to counter. 

A draw of 0-0 or 1-1 should've been the result and it would've been a credible one.

[Hoochie Bloochie Mama]

Just now, S8 & Blue said:

Hindsight goggles working overtime here lads.

 

You don’t always have to have one up.

Its an acl. It can happen any time.

Fairly pointless contribution to a serious discussion about a players welfare. 

[AllRoverAsia]

Dacks injury was caused by a side on impact from Raya whilst deliberately ''fouling'' Dack. 

Nothing to do with fatigue, being overplayed, the pitch, climate change or why birds fly south.

Its that simple.

I am not saying that Raya had intent to injure, but he did have intent to ''foul''.

[Blue blood]

One of the key points needing highlighting is it wouldn't be as damaging for the team (still gutted for the player and devastating for them though) if there was adequate cover. That just compounds the loss for the team. As it is Dack does t have any like for like or similar replacement, in style or quality. And as for Travis he'll have to fight his replacements for space on the treatment table...

[Hoochie Bloochie Mama]

Just now, AllRoverAsia said:

Nothing to do with fatigue, being overplayed, the pitch, climate change or why birds fly south.

Its that simple.

Yet the science/medical experts say different. 

It's that simple

[47er]

1 hour ago, Dolly blue said:

Did anyone see a leader out there?
Did anyone hear a leader out there ?
 

Men against boys, and timid boys at that..... so limited in skill, so limited in football intelligence, so limited in desire.... The team that Tony built.....

and the team which falls apart at the end of the season anyway. Beyond belief that Mowbray is the man trusted to build it up again.

Another long journey  on the way......

[RV Blue]

Could it be a natural weakness in his ligaments as well as overcompensation?

[magicalmortensleftpeg]

No need to blame anyone for the injury. Dack has been back for 3 months not 3 weeks. This is the first run of starts he’s had in that time and he’s been getting back to his best recently. Was anyone saying before the injury that Dack should have been taken off as a precaution..?

Awful season, almost worse than the relegation years given the expectations.