Summer transfer window 2021.

[arbitro]

6 hours ago, Bbrovers2288 said:

Tbf it was me that said one in by Friday not job, I wasn’t given a name but can only assume the player was reach, who did give his answer Friday, just not way we wanted/ or not depending how you felt about it. Hold my hands up- it didn’t come off- sorry 

You don't have to apologise mate - all you did was post something you were told. I think the majority like things like that being posted on here.

[Mattyblue]

Of course, targets come and go, watch a few episodes of that Sunderland documentary to see what a madhouse transfer windows can be at clubs in a big a mess as us.

Edited August 4, 2021 by Mattyblue

[1864roverite]

If and it is a massive IF, the rabid speculation had any semblance of truth about it then surely Mowbray would have walked such is his integrity, openness and professionalism!

[LeftWinger]

16 hours ago, RoverKyle said:

Given the lack of transfer rumours, potential lack of funds for any permanent signings and just general malaise in here, I'm going to try and start up a conversation about potential signings...

Who do people feel like we should be targeting on loan from these so called big Premier League clubs?

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-9855553/Manchester-United-outcast-Phil-Jones-proving-UNSELLABLE-summer.html?fbclid=IwAR2P1uFWxbpAUIiMDNhxX-nbeNK-ndBYwhaefGcRGtbL5K6q-LSAvZckPsM

I'd be tempted to see if United would loan us Jones on the cheap for a few months just to put him in the shop window. Assuming Ayala is going to spend more time in the treatment room than on the pitch, we're seriously short of options there. 

[Oldgregg86]

21 minutes ago, LeftWinger said:

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-9855553/Manchester-United-outcast-Phil-Jones-proving-UNSELLABLE-summer.html?fbclid=IwAR2P1uFWxbpAUIiMDNhxX-nbeNK-ndBYwhaefGcRGtbL5K6q-LSAvZckPsM

I'd be tempted to see if United would loan us Jones on the cheap for a few months just to put him in the shop window. Assuming Ayala is going to spend more time in the treatment room than on the pitch, we're seriously short of options there. 

If he were available for a loan move there would be a lot of teams in the premier league and Europe as well as in our own league who would be way above us and could Offer a higher percentage of his wage. It’s would be amazing but it’s wishful thinking at best I’m afraid 

[DavidMailsTightPerm]

Surprised there isn't more focus on the fact that our £7m striker could leave for next to nothing at the end of the season. Though he will be under 24 - if he goes abroad I don't think we would get anything.

[alex l]

8 minutes ago, DavidMailsTightPerm said:

Surprised there isn't more focus on the fact that our £7m striker could leave for next to nothing at the end of the season. Though he will be under 24 - if he goes abroad I don't think we would get anything.

Oh, it's been mentioned. We can get upset about that in 9 months time or so. The Chilean sensation, Arma, Lenihan, Nyambe, Rothwell and there may well be others. Maybe £20-£35m worth of players, depending on your valuations. Southampton at the bottom end of course.  

[tomphil]

Only at Ewood could that happen.

Spend around 7 million on a kid then barely use him properly for a few years. Whilst he 'beds in' and gets used to things and grows up a bit physically and mentally.  Then suddenly with the end of his contract in sight and a few more pounds on his bones he starts running around a bit.

Looks like a player who might actually justify half his fee at least but just ends up playing out his time ready to move on.

Absolute shower although if he'd got a contract extension 18 months ago i think there'd have been uproar.  His upturn in form might have come at the best time if Armstrong goes but the worst time for things in general.

 

[EgyptianPete]

43 minutes ago, 1864roverite said:

If and it is a massive IF, the rabid speculation had any semblance of truth about it then surely Mowbray would have walked such is his integrity, openness and professionalism!

Which proves he is a charlatan, and here for the money NOT BLACKBURN ROVERS

[tomphil]

47 minutes ago, 1864roverite said:

If and it is a massive IF, the rabid speculation had any semblance of truth about it then surely Mowbray would have walked such is his integrity, openness and professionalism!

He won't though because the scaled back model takes all the heat off him. It'll suit him down to the ground just think of the new set of excuses set to be trotted out. He already started the ball rolling the other week with his comments.  So much for having faith in his players.

Him and Waggot have created their own comfort zone here there's never been an ounce of ambition in either. 

[Mattyblue]

From the moment he came out with the utterly bizarre statement that ‘I had to tell the owners to slow down’ I knew that getting the best results possible on the pitch was not the modus operandi of this manager - just not normal, why was he here, and why has this dragged on so long?

[MarkBRFC]

It's amazing how many lapped it up too. Let's "build" the club properly they said.

3 years later we're potentially in a bigger mess than ever.

[alex l]

For those saying there's been no ambition, didn't the management say last close season we needed to have a proper push at the play offs in the season gone? Yes it turned sour after January, but let's try and have some balance. 

[RevidgeBlue]

12 hours ago, JoeH said:

Couldn't disagree more with this evaluation. One has moved on to play for Anderlecht, definitely a step up, and the other is expected to be around the 1st team of a Champions League side next season, or get himself a PL loan, also a step up.

Both of those players have seen their valuations enhanced following their time at the club.

Which is great for the players involved, but no bloody good to us whatsoever.

Also, would you say the respective stocks of Douglas, Trybull and Branthwaite rose as a result of their time here?

[bigbrandjohn]

 Blasted through the 250 without a transfer wicket falling. No sign of a breakthrough with the seamers. 

[bigbrandjohn]

Thank God Brereton will be feeling confident. No more he is a young  lad funding his way bollocks. Lets not lose him as well as Armstrong on a Bosnan. 
 

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/58020424

 

[JacknOry]

Just now, bigbrandjohn said:

Thank God Brereton will be feeling confident. No more he is a young  lad funding his way bollocks. Lets not lose him as well as Armstrong on a Bosnan. 
 

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/58020424

 

Staff are leaving before they're culled, players cant wait to get out the door, and we're not signing anyone. Highly doubt BBD's agent is advising him to sign a new contract much like AA is very unlikely to. Especially with his new found fame in Chile. Worst part, if he goes to a club abroad, we get naff all. Someone will snap him up, if only for the marketing potential.

[tomphil]

16 minutes ago, alex l said:

For those saying there's been no ambition, didn't the management say last close season we needed to have a proper push at the play offs in the season gone? Yes it turned sour after January, but let's try and have some balance. 

Nothing he's ever done on the pitch has pointed that way at all. There are numerous examples.

He's talked things up and down to suit his narrative at will, probably just to suit the owners. They have certainly been under the impression top 6 was the aim but this guy has strung them along imo.

There's rarely been any balance between what he says and how he actually does things. That's obvious.

Edited August 4, 2021 by tomphil

[tomphil]

7 minutes ago, JacknOry said:

Staff are leaving before they're culled, players cant wait to get out the door, and we're not signing anyone. Highly doubt BBD's agent is advising him to sign a new contract much like AA is very unlikely to. Especially with his new found fame in Chile. Worst part, if he goes to a club abroad, we get naff all. Someone will snap him up, if only for the marketing potential.

They will because the famous 'flex' line Waggot fed everybody in terms of high fee lower wages will be redundant.  He'll want a significant wage rise and long contract and that isn't looking likely at the moment.

[RevidgeBlue]

13 hours ago, Boroblue said:

Yeah I wouldn’t give Mowbray another penny. To use Souness words he can wee with the willy he’s got. It might spur him on to get Ayala of his arse. He bought him he can sort it out otherwise he’s a centre back short. I can’t remember who said it but players get you sacked and he’s handed out enough soft contracts to get himself in this position. In attack he has £12 million worth of players in Gallagher and Diaz let’s use them as strikers. Also Armstrong hasn’t left. To replace his false winger let’s use our wingers. Let’s say Champman and Dolan.

Lets end the nonsense of everyone gets a game less he has and less fiddling he can do. If it doesn’t work sack him. The saved money can be given to the next man who might have a plan that does not involve mid table obscurity.

Yeah let’s give it a go with what we’ve got give him any extra and he’ll mess up big time as per usual

Great post which I agree with in principle. The problem is that the squad is now so thin that a few injuries will see us in real trouble.

In an ideal world I think we'd need three decent experienced permanent heads to replace the six full time players who left and one or two quality youngsters on loan to replace the five outgoing loanees.

Scrapping round at the last minute to do ALL our business on loan will take us nowhere but it seems to be the case that the owners have either voluntarily turned the taps off on Mowbray or there's no choice due to FFP and the gross mismanagement of the Club over the last 3 years by Waggott and Mowbray.

Not only has Mowbray been allowed to pile players and loans on top of more players without ever keeping an eye on the FFP budget and offloading any dross or  selling players to balance the books, they haven't prioritised our top assets either so there'll all probably end up walking out for free.

[RevidgeBlue]

17 minutes ago, alex l said:

For those saying there's been no ambition, didn't the management say last close season we needed to have a proper push at the play offs in the season gone? Yes it turned sour after January, but let's try and have some balance. 

Aiming to be challenging for a top 6 spot after three season is hardly ambitious. You can be round about half way in the table and not without a chance of making a run at the play offs most of the season.

If he'd said something like the aim is automatic promotion within 2-3 seasons then yes, that would have been an ambitious target but as others have said to the extent he has mentioned anything about the play offs, those words are belied by his actual actions and the conflicting narrative about "being on a journey" etc.

[Mercer]

17 minutes ago, RevidgeBlue said:

Aiming to be challenging for a top 6 spot after three season is hardly ambitious. You can be round about half way in the table and not without a chance of making a run at the play offs most of the season.

If he'd said something like the aim is automatic promotion within 2-3 seasons then yes, that would have been an ambitious target but as others have said to the extent he has mentioned anything about the play offs, those words are belied by his actual actions and the conflicting narrative about "being on a journey" etc.

Ambition, ambition, ambition.

The aim when we came up from League 1 should have been to march straight on to the PL the next season just as Wilder did with Sheff U..  Howard Kendall almost pulled off the same stunt with Rovers some 40 years ago but we missed out on either goal difference or by one point.  It shows what good and ambitious managers can achieve and what they are all about.

Momentum and confidence are everything below PL.

Always thought Mowbray was a p1ss poor manager from when he was appointed and boy the penny seems to be dropping with many fans now.

[RoversClitheroe]

8 minutes ago, Mercer said:

Always thought Mowbray was a p1ss poor manager from when he was appointed and boy the penny seems to be dropping with many fans now.

Unfortunately I think when you look at Facebook, the fans still love him.

Anyone saying a negative word about him gets abuse as seen by my tweet and whenever I've posted on FB.

[RevidgeBlue]

8 minutes ago, Mercer said:

Ambition, ambition, ambition.

The aim when we came up from League 1 should have been to march straight on to the PL the next season just as Wilder did with Sheff U..  Howard Kendall almost pulled off the same stunt with Rovers some 40 years ago but we missed out on either goal difference or by one point.  It shows what good and ambitious managers can achieve and what they are all about.

Momentum and confidence are everything below PL.

Always thought Mowbray was a p1ss poor manager from when he was appointed and boy the penny seems to be dropping with many fans now.

Trouble is, Mowbray isn't Howard Kendall.

In fact that might just be the understatement of all time. 

He isn't even Don Mackay.

[RevidgeBlue]

Just now, RoversClitheroe said:

Anyone saying a negative word about him gets abuse as seen by my tweet and whenever I've posted on FB.

Please don't let that put you off trying!