Summer transfer window 2021.

[RoverKyle]

Could the Kean v Mowbray debate be moved to a separate thread? It's clogging up this one and making it look like we're being active in the market. Giving a lot of false hope whenever I log on.

[G Somerset Rover]

It’s so Rovers that the only player we were due to sign is now crocked so back with his parent club.

A circus of a transfer window.

[tomphil]

When these lot finally create a steady base they tend to rip it up again ie the late Bowyer/Coyle/Lambert era.

Mowbray to his credit created another good base a few years ago but couldn't build on it clearly. So instead of taking the reigns and doing something proactive they just let it slide and now it might all get smashed up again.

2 steps backwards every 5 years it looks like being.

[tomphil]

2 minutes ago, Gavlar Somerset Rover! said:

It’s so Rovers that the only player we were due to sign is now crocked so back with his parent club.

A circus of a transfer window.

I'm getting a feeling we might be being played again here.

One might have broken down over personal terms, terms that we must've know about from the off. Now the next one suddenly flags up an injury at the 11th hour, chances are neither will come.

Were they ever though ?

[Wing Wizard Windy Miller]

15 minutes ago, tomphil said:

I'm getting a feeling we might be being played again here.

One might have broken down over personal terms, terms that we must've know about from the off. Now the next one suddenly flags up an injury at the 11th hour, chances are neither will come.

Were they ever though 

Biggest give away was one being a winger 🤣.

 

Or if genuine, the Brighton crock returning may work in out favour, now we have the Armstrong money.  

[tomphil]

I thought it was unusual when i saw he was a winger but then again that means nowt once they get here.

 

[Bigdoggsteel]

On 10/08/2021 at 20:02, Tyrone Shoelaces said:

Is it true he’s really called O’bafemi Big Dog ?

O'bafemi Big Dog. Now that's a name that means business 🤣

I haven't heard the O was put like that, but it probably was by some 

[Bigdoggsteel]

On 10/08/2021 at 20:50, BigBar said:

He will have spent time with Lenihan and Williams in the Irish camp so will have great insight and a familiar face should he be interested in coming to Rovers.

Maybe. The 2 lads aren't in every squad and he's only been in one I think. I'm sure their paths have crossed though..

I surprised in his interviews that he has a full blown English accent. 

[G Somerset Rover]

15 minutes ago, tomphil said:

I thought it was unusual when i saw he was a winger but then again that means nowt once they get here.

 

Indeed. He isn't 6'3+ so I knew it'd be a non-starter!

Regardless of the calibre of player who has left the building, the cold hard facts are TWELVE have left and ZERO have come in. When I tell my non-Rovers supporting fans this they genuinely think I'm making it up.

Edited August 12, 2021 by Gavlar Somerset Rover!

[Bigdoggsteel]

All gone very quiet on Obafemi. Thought from the start it wouldn't be an easy one to get done. 

[DE.]

1 hour ago, Gav said:

**Disclaimer:

I don't want us to sell the training ground, I'm just stating the facts which are missing in this debate**

Many football clubs in dire financial trouble sell the training ground, Wigan, Bolton, PNE, Portsmouth, Sunderland and Sheff Weds just off the top of my head, why are we any different? Why are we such a special case?

Venkys own the training ground, they own Ewood and the land surrounding the ground, nothing goes through unless they sign off, its basic stuff this.

It was the lack of transparency for me Gav. It all felt very sneaky to me. If people want to separate Mowbray from that and say it was all OK then fine, but it made and continues to make me feel very uneasy about Mowbray, Waggott and Venus.

[DavidMailsTightPerm]

3 minutes ago, Bigdoggsteel said:

All gone very quiet on Obafemi. Thought from the start it wouldn't be an easy one to get done. 

It's all smoke and mirrors to put Newcastle off the scent from ours and Southampton's cunning plan 😉

[windymiller7]

6 minutes ago, DavidMailsTightPerm said:

It's all smoke and mirrors to put Newcastle off the scent from ours and Southampton's cunning plan 😉

Edited August 12, 2021 by windymiller7

[Stuart]

9 minutes ago, DE. said:

It was the lack of transparency for me Gav. It all felt very sneaky to me. If people want to separate Mowbray from that and say it was all OK then fine, but it made and continues to make me feel very uneasy about Mowbray, Waggott and Venus.

Meanwhile we have billionaire owners.

If they are happy to sell off Jack Walker’s legacy rather than put right their own mistakes there is something wrong.

[Wing Wizard Windy Miller]

So Mowbray's new plan (Lancs Telegraph)  is for the whole team to contribute goals.  He wants more goals from midfield but apparently we don't have those players at the club so he needs to bring them in.  Defence need to weigh in with more goals from set pieces.  Except he doesn't practise set pieces.🤦🏻‍♂️

Anyway for me, I still think we need a strapping CB and a big physical midfielder so we can compete  physically. - before we think about adding more goals. 

[rigger]

1 hour ago, Gav said:

**Disclaimer:

I don't want us to sell the training ground, I'm just stating the facts which are missing in this debate**

Many football clubs in dire financial trouble sell the training ground, Wigan, Bolton, PNE, Portsmouth, Sunderland and Sheff Weds just off the top of my head, why are we any different? Why are we such a special case?

Venkys own the training ground, they own Ewood and the land surrounding the ground, nothing goes through unless they sign off, its basic stuff this.

 

 

Did any of the teams you mention have Cat 1 status ?

[CambridgeRover]

Come one come all for your monthly "I can't believe they said that" highlighting the best of the telegraph's greatest comments.

> Again, tony making perfect sense, telling the fans how it is. Speaking the truth and explaining to us what the plans are.

> There's plenty of evidence of players who've developed under TM. in fact, I think only chapman could be put forward as someone who hasn't really.

 

[roverandout]

5 minutes ago, CambridgeRover said:

Come one come all for your monthly "I can't believe they said that" highlighting the best of the telegraph's greatest comments.

> Again, tony making perfect sense, telling the fans how it is. Speaking the truth and explaining to us what the plans are.

> There's plenty of evidence of players who've developed under TM. in fact, I think only chapman could be put forward as someone who hasn't really.

 

Morons 

[Bigdoggsteel]

41 minutes ago, DavidMailsTightPerm said:

It's all smoke and mirrors to put Newcastle off the scent from ours and Southampton's cunning plan 😉

So cunning , that even those at Rovers don't know what's going on 

[neophox]

I would say.

Invest in a defender and a good midfelder and a young striker.

 

We need to have confidence in Brereton, Gallagher and Dolan.

 

But as always....Mowbray out.

[arbitro]

1 hour ago, Gav said:

Sunderland sold the old training ground for housing, then took out a £9m loan secured against the new training facilities and ground, as did Derby and Southampton. 

https://www.theguardian.com/football/2021/feb/22/sign-of-the-times-how-english-clubs-are-turning-to-high-interest-us-loans

Apologies, Sheffield Wednesday sold Hillsborough to the mad owner and were relegated as a result last season due to financial irregularities, he's still in charge.

 

The big difference between any of those mentioned and us is that we were downsizing. We weren't moving to a new site, we were moving the STC to the Academy site which was smaller and it was doubtful whether the criteria for Category A could be met. However it was spun it was simply about money and two fingers were stuck up to the jewel of Jacks legacy. That alone makes it a despicable act by the horrible people behind it.

[neophox]

Rovers interested in defender Ciaron Brown

https://footballleagueworld.co.uk/exclusive-barnsley-blackburn-rovers-ipswich-town-join-middlesbrough-in-hunt-for-cardiff-player/

[Wing Wizard Windy Miller]

34 minutes ago, CambridgeRover said:

Come one come all for your monthly "I can't believe they said that" highlighting the best of the telegraph's greatest comments.

> Again, tony making perfect sense, telling the fans how it is. Speaking the truth and explaining to us what the plans are.

> There's plenty of evidence of players who've developed under TM. in fact, I think only chapman could be put forward as someone who hasn't really.

 

 Nyambe, Bell, Lenihan, Gallagher, Brereton, Rothwell.  I'd argue that none of those have  improved under Mowbray.

Edited August 12, 2021 by Wing Wizard Windy Miller

[Sparks Rover]

Just now, Wing Wizard Windy Miller said:

I'd argue it's 50/50. Nyambe, Bell, Lenihan, Gallagher, Brereton, Rothwell.  I'd argue that mone of those have  improved under Mowbray.

Who's the manager of Chile? We should get him in. Seemed to make Brereton into a world beater.👊

[TheRoversReturn]

16 hours ago, bazza said:

Absolutely, Den. It's the ownership that worries me most. They still haven't got a clue what they are doing.

Great post Bazza, but I have to disagree with this part...they do have a clue what they're doing. They know exactly what they're doing and it works for them. For over a decade now. Hence groundhog day every bloody season.

It's us lot who still haven't got a clue what they are bloody well doing and why!!!!

Edited August 12, 2021 by TheRoversReturn