Holding the management to account

[booth]

13 hours ago, J*B said:

Yep - Booth and I worked on the Rovers documentary, we where one step above only Balaji knowing they had a football club at one point. 

And there was that unused footage in Manchester of Balaji where it was obvious Balaji was in charge from the outset.

No idea where that went.

Like the prank Derek phonecall. Or the SK car park cctv.

I’m surprised they didn’t resurface for posterity.

[J*B]

10 hours ago, booth said:

And there was that unused footage in Manchester of Balaji where it was obvious Balaji was in charge from the outset.

No idea where that went.

Like the prank Derek phonecall. Or the SK car park cctv.

I’m surprised they didn’t resurface for posterity.

There’s footage somewhere of him smoking during an interview inside the best suite in the Lowry. Good times. 

[tomphil]

VLL which owns and funds the club belongs to the parent company VH Group who inject share capital in etc.

The two big Ds are in charge of all that therefore they'll have the final say on Rovers funding, despite whoever is playing with it further down the pecking order.

[WacoRover]

I live in Texas, and I have only been to Ewood once (Sept., 2019), so my opinions may not be valid. If they are, I am too far away to be of much use, but I love the club, so here goes:

I am 59 years old. I am a fan of two professional teams, the Dallas Cowboys, and Blackburn Rovers. I have been a fan of the first since my first recollections, in 1968. I have been a fan of the 2nd, only since 2013, but I am objective enough to see the main problems of both, in spite of my fan status: 

The owners & mgmt team. 

Both clubs last hit Paydirt the same year-1995. Cowboys had the same owner, but his Prez & GM status wasn’t the same then, player personnel decisions were split with Jimmy Johnson, who was the real author of 3 SB titles (even though “Smoking Guns “ Switzer won one of those). I believe the Cowboys are variously touted as one of the top two or three valued pro franchises in the world. So, Cowboys & Rovers differ in that respect. 

Jones is an astute businessman. Any novice would admit that. but he’s hopelessly inept as a Prez & GM of an NFL franchise. If he would admit his failings, & hire a true GM, Cowboys fortunes would immediately improve. No Super Bowls in 26 years (& two playoff wins) says it all. 

Rovers net worth is far less, but their predicament with mgmt isn’t that different. Cowboys have a damaging, meddling owner, who is involved in every aspect of the club. In Rovers case, we are hamstrung by negligent owners, who rely on the word of shills & flunkies. 

If Rovers’ owners care about their investment, they will put people in daily contact with the club, who are trustworthy & know enough about football to provide adequate guidance to the club, both financially and on the pitch. It is obvious they do not have those people in place now. 

There does not appear to be a firm hand overseeing the work done by the “Coventrio”. If there was, there would be some accountability, by the most objective measuring stick available- moving up the table, & promotion. TM has definitely had enough time to show positive results since promotion from League 1, there have been none. Changes are overdue.

Did the owners refuse to do anything before because of covid? If there is not progress this season, I would suspect big changes… IF reasonably intelligent people are involved. Sadly, we do not have any reason to believe this is the case. Therefore, I expect more decline, and lower gate receipts are in store for Rovers. How low it gets, before changes are made, no one knows. 

[Mattyblue]

2013 of all years to start following the Rovers!

I can only salute you.

[WacoRover]

7 hours ago, Mattyblue said:

2013 of all years to start following the Rovers!

I can only salute you.

It’s been interesting, I will say that. 

The first Rovers game I saw on TV was an FA Cup match, vs ManC. It was Bowyer’s boys, all the way, as Scott Dann scored the only Rovers goal. 

I could’ve easily picked anybody in the universe to give my affections to. My son was already a huge Liverpool fan (even though he got his Masters at Reading). Why Rovers? I read & watched everything I could get my hands on, Rovers-related. I love Rovers. End of story (see my pic above, with PL trophy. The folks at the club were great to me, to give this Texan a tour of all of Ewood Park, incl the 1876 Boardroom).

None of us have an answer for the disease infecting BRFC. We can’t get what we want (TM & waggott to go, owners to sell). Just keep loving the blue & white shirt. The fans need to show up, it’s the only Blackburn Rovers we’ve got, or ever will have. Cheer the club. Let the lads know when they give 100%, darn sure let em know when they give less. Give TM the business, when he fails. 
 

My last word on this, I will let it go, & take what comes: I honestly want Rovers back in the PL, but it’s not the end of the world if they don’t. I don’t demand it. I will still cheer them on. I just want the owners & admin to be honest about things, to admit when they fail, and show that they give a care about the future of the club. 

Edited September 9, 2021 by WacoRover

[booth]

On 07/09/2021 at 07:55, J*B said:

There’s footage somewhere of him smoking during an interview inside the best suite in the Lowry. Good times. 

I was doing a recce in that same suite years later and it brought about a shudder at the thought of those helpless early days.

Hasn't got much better though has it. I think I'm just desensitised.

[booth]

1 hour ago, WacoRover said:

It’s been interesting, I will say that. 

The first Rovers game I saw on TV was an FA Cup match, vs ManC. It was Bowyer’s boys, all the way, as Scott Dann scored the only Rovers goal. 

I could’ve easily picked anybody in the universe to give my affections to. My son was already a huge Liverpool fan (even though he got his Masters at Reading). Why Rovers? I read & watched everything I could get my hands on, Rovers-related. I love Rovers. End of story (see my pic above, with PL trophy. The folks at the club were great to me, to give this Texan a tour of all of Ewood Park, incl the 1876 Boardroom).

None of us have an answer for the disease infecting BRFC. We can’t get what we want (TM & waggott to go, owners to sell). Just keep loving the blue & white shirt. The fans need to show up, it’s the only Blackburn Rovers we’ve got, or ever will have. Cheer the club. Let the lads know when they give 100%, darn sure let em know when they give less. Give TM the business, when he fails. 
 

My last word on this, I will let it go, & take what comes: I honestly want Rovers back in the PL, but it’s not the end of the world if they don’t. I don’t demand it. I will still cheer them on. I just want the owners & admin to be honest about things, to admit when they fail, and show that they give a care about the future of the club. 

Oh mate, try to watch some of the Dalglish days along with Souness and Hughes. Amazing times. Some of the Hodgson and Allardyce days were pretty good too. It's a shame YouTube doesn't capture the feeling of being there, it all seems like a dream now.

[tomphil]

Going back before that to when we resembled something similar to what they've reduced us to again the Don Mackay years were brilliant.

I'd give anything for someone with his attitude to walk through the door again.

Probably not much footage of that era knocking about but it's worth a look.

Edited September 9, 2021 by tomphil

[Wheelton Blue]

10 minutes ago, tomphil said:

Going back before that to when we resembled something similar to what they've reduced us to again the Don Mackay years were brilliant.

I'd give anything for someone with his attitude to walk through the door again.

Probably not much footage of that era knocking about but it's worth a look.

That away game at Stoke when the unbeaten run came to an end (I think) is one of my best memories of following the Rovers. Thousands at Stoke that day.

[1864roverite]

16 minutes ago, Wheelton Blue said:

That away game at Stoke when the unbeaten run came to an end (I think) is one of my best memories of following the Rovers. Thousands at Stoke that day.

Took the Wheelton lads in a tranny van that game and ended up being chased out off outside a pub 😂 great day out with a full terrace of Rovers fans what a great memory result apart👍

[Leonard Venkhater]

18 minutes ago, Wheelton Blue said:

That away game at Stoke when the unbeaten run came to an end (I think) is one of my best memories of following the Rovers. Thousands at Stoke that day.

The sense of pride! The fans were great that day. What a shame that team couldn't get promotion....

[Gav]

32 minutes ago, Wheelton Blue said:

That away game at Stoke when the unbeaten run came to an end (I think) is one of my best memories of following the Rovers. Thousands at Stoke that day.

Never a penalty either.......

[tomphil]

2 hours ago, Wheelton Blue said:

That away game at Stoke when the unbeaten run came to an end (I think) is one of my best memories of following the Rovers. Thousands at Stoke that day.

It was that rammed in there my feet were off the ground whilst going forwards, sideways, backwards. It was surreal and a bit scary although that was nothing compared to the snarling Stoke mob outside 🙂

[WacoRover]

4 hours ago, booth said:

Oh mate, try to watch some of the Dalglish days along with Souness and Hughes. Amazing times. Some of the Hodgson and Allardyce days were pretty good too. It's a shame YouTube doesn't capture the feeling of being there, it all seems like a dream now.

I have seen the LFC/Rovers match in its entirety, securing the PL trophy to Rovers. Tense moments indeed, when Liverpool got the game winner, but no matter. Rovers were league champs.

Also, I’ve watched the League Cup match vs Tots. Amazing, the team was considered almost an afterthought, with 2-3 starters out. What a great victory!   🏆

Edited September 9, 2021 by WacoRover

[Leonard Venkhater]

13 hours ago, WacoRover said:

I have seen the LFC/Rovers match in its entirety, securing the PL trophy to Rovers. Tense moments indeed, when Liverpool got the game winner, but no matter. Rovers were league champs.

Also, I’ve watched the League Cup match vs Tots. Amazing, the team was considered almost an afterthought, with 2-3 starters out. What a great victory!   🏆

If you ever get to Austin, say hello to Paddy Gannon. He is my brother in law and an honorary Rovers fan..Hates Burnley anyway!

 

[Ulrich]

13 hours ago, WacoRover said:

I have seen the LFC/Rovers match in its entirety, securing the PL trophy to Rovers. Tense moments indeed, when Liverpool got the game winner, but no matter. Rovers were league champs.

Also, I’ve watched the League Cup match vs Tots. Amazing, the team was considered almost an afterthought, with 2-3 starters out. What a great victory!   🏆

We owe a lot to West Hams GK, was it muglosko (sp)

[JacknOry]

2 hours ago, Ulrich said:

We owe a lot to West Hams GK, was it muglosko (sp)

Luděk Mikloško. A great keeper in his own right and not just because of that game.

374 appearances for Wet Spam and mostly in the PL. No mean feat.

Edited September 10, 2021 by JacknOry

[Admiral Nelsen]

2 minutes ago, JacknOry said:

Luděk Mikloško. A great keeper in his own right and not just because of that game.

 

With an amazing song on the terraces:

"His name is Ludo Mikloško, he comes from near Moscow..."

 

Mikloško is from Prostejov, Czech Republic, which is somewhere in the region of 1,000 miles away from Moscow.

 

[Leonard Venkhater]

9 minutes ago, Admiral Nelsen said:

 

With an amazing song on the terraces:

"His name is Ludo Mikloško, he comes from near Moscow..."

 

Mikloško is from Prostejov, Czech Republic, which is somewhere in the region of 1,000 miles away from Moscow.

 

Up there with "They'll be dancing in the streets of Raith"..

[Ulrich]

Yes it is a great song, but thanks to his stellar performance against United that day we won the league 👍

[Bbrovers2288]

57 minutes ago, Leonard Venkhater said:

Up there with "They'll be dancing in the streets of Raith"..

Lot of folk won’t get this 

[Crimpshrine]

59 minutes ago, Bbrovers2288 said:

Lot of folk won’t get this 

Scottish football club names are great - St Johnstone, Queen of the South, Hearts, Raith Rovers etc. .Looking up some of the reasons for these names is very educational. 

I once met a bloke from Falkirk who supported East Sterling and it was years before I realised why ( google if you are interested )

I always thought FC United of Manchester missed a trick and could have come up with a much more interesting or cryptic name - Real Newton Heath or something.

If Venky's do eventually lead us into bankruptcy then I'd hope we could come up with an interesting name for a phoenix club

(sorry totally off topic )

 

 

[rigger]

16 minutes ago, Crimpshrine said:

Scottish football club names are great - St Johnstone, Queen of the South, Hearts, Raith Rovers etc. .Looking up some of the reasons for these names is very educational. 

I once met a bloke from Falkirk who supported East Sterling and it was years before I realised why ( google if you are interested )

I always thought FC United of Manchester missed a trick and could have come up with a much more interesting or cryptic name - Real Newton Heath or something.

If Venky's do eventually lead us into bankruptcy then I'd hope we could come up with an interesting name for a phoenix club

(sorry totally off topic )

 

 

I went to a game in Scotland, Featuring Queen of the South, A group of their supportes came down the street singing : We are Queens, We are Queens, We are Queens. I thought it was very amusing.  

[Leonard Venkhater]

4 hours ago, Bbrovers2288 said:

Lot of folk won’t get this 

"Those, who have ears will hear"...ask 47er!