January Transfer window 2022

[slowmo]

7 minutes ago, bluebruce said:

Please explain how we are short up front? There are 2 spots in the current formation. They're contested by BBD, Khadra, Gallagher, Dolan, Markanday (if he signs, and I'm guessing you meant as well as him) and even Butterworth. That's 6 players for 2 spots. Markanday isn't leaving Spurs (who he supports) due to not playing there in order to not play here.

Midfield I agree, and then a reliable backup goalie who won't chuck the ball in our own net.

It's looking like the club is forward planning with BBD, Khadra and none contract renewals probably leaving in the summer , if we don’t get promoted.

It gives them 6 months to get upto speed, ready for regular first team involvement.  Rather than a big turnover of players in the summer. Who would of thought it possible 

Edited January 15, 2022 by slowmo

[bluebruce]

10 minutes ago, CambridgeRover said:

Good move imo, a bit more development and next season will be ready to contribute fully 

Good move for his development for sure, I agree it should improve him. But I think it may prove ill advised for the club this season. We have 4 very good CBs to fill our 3 places. One is highly injury prone. Another may be prone to karate kicking someone now and then. The other two have been known to have injury problems.

If we lose 2 of them at any point to injury, suspension, or covid, we are now very thin on the ground and may be best advised to switch from our winning formation. Magloire was very, very poor earlier this season, Johnson and Nyambe are not CBs but would probably be used there. It's probably a season too early for Ash Phillips.

[Miller11]

Isn’t it nice to be in a window where we aren’t all hoping that glaring holes in the starting 11 are filled?

Any new signings, or players returning from injury are coming in to supplement a strong first 11, and they will have to do the business if/when they get a chance if they want to have a hope of dislodging the first choice players. Exactly as it should be.

Having Dack, Dolan, Gallagher and Markanday as options off the bench should put us in a really strong position for a promotion push.

[AJW]

52 minutes ago, bluebruce said:

Please explain how we are short up front? There are 2 spots in the current formation. They're contested by BBD, Khadra, Gallagher, Dolan, Markanday (if he signs, and I'm guessing you meant as well as him) and even Butterworth. That's 6 players for 2 spots. Markanday isn't leaving Spurs (who he supports) due to not playing there in order to not play here.

Midfield I agree, and then a reliable backup goalie who won't chuck the ball in our own net.

Centre forward … not just any old attacker .. Gally works hard but is not a goal threat BBD has been brill this season but he might get injured or hit a flat spot who do we rely on then for Goals ? Dolan, Kahdra Rothwell have got what ? 10 between them and there is no guarantee Dack will be the same player . We are in a fabulous position and we should capitalise on it 

[chaddyrovers]

Hope Carter played alot at Portsmouth and can play a part in the promotion chase. 

It will be interesting who we target after we sign Markanday early next week. 

[Paul Mani]

Assuming Deyo and Markanday are in the bag 🤞🏽….I reckon it could be O’Riley, Healy and a CB. Letting Carter go on loan is interesting…does leave us short if we lose a couple of CB’s.

[chaddyrovers]

12 minutes ago, Paul Mani said:

Assuming Deyo

he signed yesterday

[ItsRoverZ]

I would rather we sign maja then healy.. maja would suit us and our style very well.

A cm and a striker for me is huge as when Diaz is off the boil we need someone to be able to pick up the slack and i don't think Gallagher is that man

Don't know what's happened to Travis but we need another cm and if this O'Riley is a good as he sounds I would love him here too

[joey_big_nose]

2 hours ago, CambridgeRover said:

Good move imo, a bit more development and next season will be ready to contribute fully 

I wonder what will happen if Wharton get's injured again. Without Carter there is no one who can play left of a back three. I'd hope there is a recall option if needed.

[slowmo]

Would like to see another LB , CB , CM as cover, plus an attacker to rotate with BBD 

[AspRover]

4 hours ago, RoversClitheroe said:

Anyone heard anything about a player called Dante Vanzeir?

Apparently looking at a European forward on a loan to buy.

The Saint-Gilloise forward? Seriously doubt they're sending him out on loan and we couldn't afford to buy him.

[joey_big_nose]

5 hours ago, Tugayisgod said:

I get the feeling Rovers are resigned to losing the contract rebels and are already in the process of replacing them with the players already signed and those still to arrive. 
Zeefuik obviously for Nyambe, this other striker for BBD, O’Riley potentially for Rothwell, Markandy for Khadra if he goes back to Brighton. If that’s the case then it’s really good forward thinking from the club and needs to be applauded.

Yes fair - it's only really in this light the transfer targets make sense. Particularly singing another striker on top of Markandy given our options doesn't really seem sensible. 

I suppose the alternative explanation is if they see a good player at a good price they will buy them and figure it out later. That approach actually makes quite a lot of sense if you are willing to take time to integrate them into the team.

Healey has scored 13 goals in 18 games in league 2 in France, and 2 in 4 in the cup - that's pretty compelling. I think as we've shown getting players from the down the leagues do often turn out to be very good (eg. Rothwell, Pickering), so if we can pick up cheaply and give him some time to integrate then it could be a good shout.

[JacknOry]

1 hour ago, chaddyrovers said:

he signed yesterday

*subject to international clearance* - so its not totally cleared yet.

[bluebruce]

12 minutes ago, joey_big_nose said:

I wonder what will happen if Wharton get's injured again. Without Carter there is no one who can play left of a back three. I'd hope there is a recall option if needed.

You can't recall from a loan outside the window. If we get a couple of CB injuries we are just fucked.

[joey_big_nose]

4 hours ago, davulsukur said:

Dolan has done well and I think he will develop further but I don't think he'll be a player for a Championship team at the top end of the table.

DIsagree personally. He's got amazing raw capabilities - pace, trickery, can score from distance and poach, go inside/outside, incredible workrate and pressing. He just needs to develop his decision making really imo.

I doubt he will make it in the Premier League, the quality of his sort of player is outrageous, but can see him turning into a top Championship player, one who plays a key role in promotion pushes for us or elsewhere.

Even with the signings he will play a key role for us, even if it is to come on with 30 mins left and relentlessly close down.

[joey_big_nose]

2 minutes ago, bluebruce said:

You can't recall from a loan outside the window. If we get a couple of CB injuries we are just fucked.

Oh shizzle. Seems  a bit shortsighted letting Carter go. Think he could deputy LCB quite well. Hope Wharton stays fit.

[bluebruce]

4 minutes ago, joey_big_nose said:

Healey has scored 13 goals in 18 games in league 2 in France, and 2 in 4 in the cup - that's pretty compelling. I think as we've shown getting players from the down the leagues do often turn out to be very good (eg. Rothwell, Pickering), so if we can pick up cheaply and give him some time to integrate then it could be a good shout.

Whilst the goals record itself is compelling, the level it's at is shite. He doesn't sound like he has much else to his game and he's not going to be cheap. At 27 unlikely to improve much or get a maximised re-sale. I'd swerve it personally, caveated with the fact I've not seen him and am just going off what I've heard.

[bluebruce]

1 minute ago, joey_big_nose said:

Oh shizzle. Seems  a bit shortsighted letting Carter go. Think he could deputy LCB quite well. Hope Wharton stays fit.

Agree. It will help him develop, but we have bigger concerns right now. And I doubt we are bringing someone in to try claim one of three spots from Lenihan, Wharton, Van Hecke and Ayala. I think Tony is relying on them staying available, and using Johnson there in a pinch, maybe Nyambe too. I think it's a gamble we didn't need to take.

[joey_big_nose]

2 minutes ago, bluebruce said:

Whilst the goals record itself is compelling, the level it's at is shite. He doesn't sound like he has much else to his game and he's not going to be cheap. At 27 unlikely to improve much or get a maximised re-sale. I'd swerve it personally, caveated with the fact I've not seen him and am just going off what I've heard.

A lot of our best players have come from rubbish leagues (Nelsen, Samba, Rothwell, Pickering, Kaminski, Tugay etc etc ). Wouldn't write it off on that account.

[joey_big_nose]

1 minute ago, bluebruce said:

Agree. It will help him develop, but we have bigger concerns right now. And I doubt we are bringing someone in to try claim one of three spots from Lenihan, Wharton, Van Hecke and Ayala. I think Tony is relying on them staying available, and using Johnson there in a pinch, maybe Nyambe too. I think it's a gamble we didn't need to take.

Agreed. After Wigan I am of the view that Johnson at CLB is terrifying. Out of position, slow, poor distribution, beaten in the air. Think the whole 343 would struggle if we put him in there. 

Weirdly Johnson did quite well as a CB in a 442, but I think the 343 really exposes his lack of mobility brutally.

I'd say our most important player - despite BBD's goals - is probably Wharton. If he goes, we are in the sh*t.

[bluebruce]

4 minutes ago, joey_big_nose said:

A lot of our best players have come from rubbish leagues (Nelsen, Samba, Rothwell, Pickering, Kaminski, Tugay etc etc ). Wouldn't write it off on that account.

Oh certainly not. I'm just saying the goals record is far less impressive given the calibre of league it was in. Of course, we paid big money for the same thing in Rhodes, a goal getter with little else to his game who had scored most of them in a poorer league. Panned out alright. But I don't feel a Rhodes type would suit this team, so I'm more concerned about what people have said in regards to his similarities to Rhodes with his general game.

[roversfan99]

3 hours ago, J*B said:

I’ve been told they want that Rhys Healey fella as the striker above Maja. 

Where is this from? Says in the LT that we want Markanday and another forward from abroad on a loan deal. Surely would be surprise if a second division French team loaned out their best player?

[magicalmortensleftpeg]

10 minutes ago, joey_big_nose said:

A lot of our best players have come from rubbish leagues (Nelsen, Samba, Rothwell, Pickering, Kaminski, Tugay etc etc ). Wouldn't write it off on that account.

Samba came from the Bundesliga. Not sure you can equate that with League 1.

[rovers11]

3 hours ago, RoversClitheroe said:

Think Healey would be a shit signing compared to Maja personally

Don’t know much about Healey but we should push the boat out and get Maja. He’d be quality here. 

[neophox]

Maya on loan would be tempting.