v Swansea City (a) - 5/2/22

[bluebruce]

2 minutes ago, blondie said:

If you look at Giles video clips at Cardiff he has Moore and Flint to cross to, we have dwarfs.

I mentioned that I wondered how he would do without Moore to aim for. But I have to say his technique was excellent today. If we can't score when he's hitting them like that, we should hang our heads really (or at least lift our heads and get on the end better!).

I do think we need to be getting Diaz to be the target for them though.

[rovers11]

4 minutes ago, DE. said:

We've scored 2 goals in the last 6 league games. This is not just a bad game in front of goal, it's a clear issue. 

You just know we won't win a game if we concede first. That's a huge issue. I'd back the likes of Fulham, Bournemouth and QPR to be able to turn games around if they concede the first goal. 

[had.e.nuff]

very poor tonight we don't know how to break down sides that sit deep its time to start looking over our shoulders at teams coming up behind us if we don't get going again soon the playoff will be gone.

[booth]

3 minutes ago, rovers11 said:

Realistically, we're not a top 2 team. Far from it actually. We're a mid table side at best so we should remember how brilliantly we're doing despite the absolute rubbish we've seen over the past 4 games. Top 6 has to be the aim. 

It's a fair point but we had the chance to strengthen in January. It was clear what we needed to get us over the line.

[RoverDom]

12 minutes ago, Bbrovers2288 said:

I take it you were all wholly underwhelmed by hedges as I said you would be 

Thought he showed some good movement. Was far from the worst player on the pitch, not discouraged by the debut 

[simongarnerisgod]

mowbrays brings in a superb crosser of a ball and has him crossing it pinpoint to nobody because we don`t play with a centre forward🤣,very pythonesque imo,whats his next trick!!!

[DE.]

Just now, rovers11 said:

You just know we won't win a game if we concede first. That's a huge issue. I'd back the likes of Fulham, Bournemouth and QPR to be able to turn games around if they concede the first goal. 

I dread to think what our record is over Tony Mowbray's tenure in that regard, but I'd be very confident in saying we'd be up there with the very worst teams in the EFL when it comes to gaining points from a losing position. It's a mentality problem that has never been addressed.

[Wegerleswiggle]

At the end of the day we're still 2nd. On another day we win that 5-1. Plenty of positives, Giles looks fantastic, Hedges, once he settles in will be an astute bit of business, other than the goal the defence was solid again. We've got Pickering, Dack, Gallagher all returning soon. Let's take it on the chin and move on to Wednesday. 

[booth]

Just now, simongarnerisgod said:

mowbrays brings in a superb crosser of a ball and has him crossing it pinpoint to nobody because we don`t play with a centre forward🤣,very pythonesque imo,whats his next trick!!!

It's up there with Gallagher at right back and Ayala as a solo striker.

[Bbrovers2288]

Can we still do loans? If so pay newcastle a ton and get Gayle in here pronto 

[bazza]

30 minutes ago, Devon Rover said:

Or have Giles take them all rather than Khadra (or the ineffectual Rothwell) wasting everything. 

Manager's decision.

18 minutes ago, Nuttall is lost said:

I saw a video clip on social media of training the other day.  Was shocked at the lack of intensity in the 5 a side game.  Very lazy and half hearted.  You train how you play.

Manager's training methods.

[Gav]

6 minutes ago, Wegerleswiggle said:

At the end of the day we're still 2nd. On another day we win that 5-1. Plenty of positives, Giles looks fantastic, Hedges, once he settles in will be an astute bit of business, other than the goal the defence was solid again. We've got Pickering, Dack, Gallagher all returning soon. Let's take it on the chin and move on to Wednesday. 

Spot on.

[Gav]

3 minutes ago, bazza said:

Manager's decision.

Manager's training methods.

Manager has us 2nd in the league when many had us 20th right now.

 

[roverblue]

big game on Wednesday night now, always back us at home to get the win but they really need to put on a performance as its been poor for a while now (albeit scraped a few 1-0 wins). Hopefully have our best 11 out bar Pickering for Giles and see a result to go with it 

[Wing Wizard Windy Miller]

2 minutes ago, Gav said:

Manager has us 2nd in the league when many had us 20th right now.

 

Give it time. 😂

[garnersfags]

It seemed obvious with 15 min to go that if we kept doing exactly the same things, we would get exactly the same results.

My main issue was that we displayed zero composure, especially when it mattered, throughout the game. 

For me, we hardly created a proper chance in 90 min. One where a forward was expected to score. 

JR was soooo deep, for 94 min., despite their lack of ambition. 

Swansea found it so easy to mark BBD out of the game, but the point is he hasn't played well, and we haven't played well (in terms of decent chances created) since Xmas. 

If we can play Giles at wing back, and Khadra and Diaz up front against Forest, we will win. Or at least create. 

Our bubble has burst, can we rediscover our effectiveness? 

All still to play for, but the signs are not great. 

[Hasta]

Rothwell is useless when teams are sitting back and he’s picking up the ball off our back 4. He should either be picking it up within range of driving towards the edge of their box or not on the pitch at all.

Edited February 5, 2022 by Hasta

[Darrenbot]

14 minutes ago, Wegerleswiggle said:

At the end of the day we're still 2nd. On another day we win that 5-1. Plenty of positives, Giles looks fantastic, Hedges, once he settles in will be an astute bit of business, other than the goal the defence was solid again. We've got Pickering, Dack, Gallagher all returning soon. Let's take it on the chin and move on to Wednesday. 

We just lost to the worst team we're going to play this month that had 10 men for nearly half the game,we need a huge turnaround on Wed or this could be a very long month.

[bazza]

7 minutes ago, Gav said:

Manager has us 2nd in the league when many had us 20th right now.

 

A better manager would have us in the prem by now. Wake up Gav.

[simongarnerisgod]

kudos to mowbray for getting us up the league,but he`s tactically naive when the game is in progress,especially when we are a goal down or under pressure,we dropped points against luton and coventry at home becuase of his inept subs and bizarre instructions to sit deep

[yankfan]

39 minutes ago, bluebruce said:

Khadra was unlucky not to score direct from one.

Even if had not been saved off the line the ref had blown jrc for impeding Fisher 

[Gav]

3 minutes ago, bazza said:

A better manager would have us in the prem by now. Wake up Gav.

Tripe, with respect. 

[yankfan]

On a totally unrealated note, nice for Fisher to get a clean sheet. Wish the kid all the success 

Edited February 5, 2022 by yankfan

[deanives]

3 hours ago, roversfan99 said:

I don't and my comment was not a criticism of either player. Ideally Giles would be at wing back where he was so effective for Cardiff though, he is more of a creator than a goalscorer. I feel like we really will miss Brereton's goal threat.

Fair enough, point taken 🤣

[Exiled_Rover]

40 minutes ago, yankfan said:

What’s clear is we lack much if any creativity in the final 3rd. All season we’ve created in the counter with space and numbers. Today up a man against a side parking the bus we didn’t even try to break them down. Never took a wife player on, never played to a forwards feet, nothing through. Everything went wide with long deep crosses. Made it easy in them. Khadra, Diaz and Buckley are not the 3 to be playing long crosses into. 
 

To a man the performances were poor. Buckley had an awful game. Sitter aside he got caught with the ball under his feet too many times. Then when received the ball in space never drove at the defense. 

Again, we literally missed 4 sitters. 

Giles makes a massive difference - teams can't just sit back against us now because he'll ping in incredibly dangerous crosses.

At the end of the day you can't expect Brereton to score every week. Buckley, Wharton and Lenihan all missed very simple chances - it's a team sport, they HAVE to start contributing to the goals column.