v Sheffield Utd (a) - 23/2/22 - Match Preview

[G Somerset Rover]

34 minutes ago, CambridgeRover said:

Mr 5 million pound striker. if he aint good enough for penalties what can he do

Indeed. Mr Shearer and co would have given Gallagher both barrels if they were pundits for last night's game. Your only striker should be picking that ball up and demanding it, taking full responsibility. 

[Tyrone Shoelaces]

I’m not bothered about another pen- I was there when John Coddington took his pen. No miss would come near to that.

I just don’t want another red card for our opponents.

[Tyrone Shoelaces]

2 minutes ago, Gavlar Somerset Rover! said:

Indeed. Mr Shearer and co would have given Gallagher both barrels if they were pundits for last night's game. Your only striker should be picking that ball up and demanding it, taking full responsibility. 

Some the strikers I played with you’d need a chainsaw to get the ball off them if a penalty had been awarded. Greedy bastards.

[Sparks Rover]

36 minutes ago, Bigdoggsteel said:

We needed one of them and a midfielder and a back up keeper. 

I just don't see how playing 1 senior games makes a difference. What we really need is simply someone to put the ball in the net! 

I'm not sure what your argument is here....would you just want bodies in or people who have a track record of scoring in promotion winning teams..?  You sound like it's irrelevant 

[tomphil]

We have a track record of just bringing bodies in....all through this ownership.

What we need is the odd specialist or luxury player to compliment the hard work and youth of the team. Think Daniel Ayala but an up front version.

Failing that even a lower league striker or journeyman who has form for finding the net. We aren't hunting for the next Shearer we just desperately needed someone to help out in the box. Not around it but actually in it !

Edited February 24, 2022 by tomphil

[roverblue]

Was too miffed to post last night, it was a familiar story since Huddersfield though. We huffed and puffed looking fairly solid at the back, but attack wise we are totally clueless.

• Nobody in the box
• Nobody making runs into the box
• Nobody making the most of corners/freekicks in the box
• Nobody controlling or holding the ball up in the last third bringing others into play

Its just the general lack of attacking play and movement that worries me, at the moment it feels like we could go the whole of the rest of the season without scoring.

The whole gameplan is basically to not concede and then hopefully somehow the ball just gets itself into the oppositions goal by a bit of magic.

Still a chance to stay in those playoff spots but Mowbray has to change the system or players to get in there. I cant see what Rothwell, Khadra, Gallagher or Buckley have done in the last few matches to keep their places, swap them out for some new ideas.

[Bigdoggsteel]

53 minutes ago, Sparks Rover said:

I'm not sure what your argument is here....would you just want bodies in or people who have a track record of scoring in promotion winning teams..?  You sound like it's irrelevant 

You said you want someone with at least 1 senior appearance, I said that doesn't really prove anything

I want someone to score goals 

[yankfan]

4 hours ago, garnersfags said:

This.

We still have comrades on this board that think Gally should start.

I don't agree with them, and I would start Hedges ahead of him. 

By Saturday, we'll have posters defending Gally again. And when he is dropped, he'll magically become the prodigal messiah again, and not just in his uncle Tony's wet dreams....

His poor anticipation and movement are only surpass by his poor first touch. The cross 10 min or so in to the second half was a prime example. Any goal scorer would see Khadra was going to attempt to beat his man and get a ball in. He either needed to make a run across the defender to the near post so the ball could be payed in front of him or behind so the ball could be played between the defender and the keeper. Khadra picked out the second ball as Gallagher wasn’t making the first run. But he didn’t make the second either. He just ran up the back of the defender and was no where near getting a touch. A half way decent striker would have tapped that in. 

[chaddyrovers]

5 hours ago, Mellor Rover said:

 But he can’t pass or finish. If we’re selecting our line up on their ability to run alone then it’s no surprise we can’t hit a barn door.

Someone else that before the Luton home game and then he scored a good goal. Lets hope it happens again. 

3 hours ago, tugayislegend said:

If we get a penalty on Saturday against QPR. Who takes it?

 

My choice would be Rothwell or Pickering

[TheRevAshton]

[Sparks Rover]

1 hour ago, Bigdoggsteel said:

You said you want someone with at least 1 senior appearance, I said that doesn't really prove anything

I want someone to score goals 

Ok mate whatever you say.1👍

[Bbrovers2288]

7 hours ago, Bigdoggsteel said:

Set pieces were brutal last night. Khadra was ok, but when I saw him step up I thought, oh this is 50/50 at best. Then he puffed his cheeks out and I knew he would miss. Terrible penalty. 

All our set pieces were crap and wasted. Rothwell very guilty of this. 

Buckley is so poor in front of goal he needs to be taken away from being there and either Dolan or ideally Dack brought in. Maybe just swap him and Rothwell?

Gallagher is very frustrating to watch. He backed out of a few duels last night and turned his arse on a few clearances. Big soft spoilt lad, who is unable to use his size and has a decent shot, but goes games without hitting one, pointless forward offensively.

It was a sucker punch, but Mowbray only brought on 1 sub , wasn't it? He should have taken advantage of the extra man

Tough, tough result and could be season defining.  

Bit of a backtrack from your view last week that buckley must be kept up top because that was working before surely?

are you also still standing by we must not change formation or have you seen the light that changes are needed yet?

fair enough if you hold your hands up you were wrong 

[Bigdoggsteel]

7 minutes ago, Bbrovers2288 said:

Bit of a backtrack from your view last week that buckley must be kept up top because that was working before surely?

are you also still standing by we must not change formation or have you seen the light that changes are needed yet?

fair enough if you hold your hands up you were wrong 

Buckley isn't "up top" he's an attacking midfielder. Do you know Brereton? Ya, he was playing upfront and when he was Buckley fit in well in his role. Having said that, we should have won against Sheffield. 

No I don't think we should change formation. The issue continues that we aren't taking our chances. 

Do you watch the games? 

[Miller11]

5 hours ago, tugayislegend said:

If we get a penalty on Saturday against QPR. Who takes it?

 

Dack. If it was up to me.

Edited February 24, 2022 by Miller11

[G Somerset Rover]

34 minutes ago, Bigdoggsteel said:

The issue continues that we aren't taking our chances. 

Do you watch the games? 

What chances? We barely create any real clear cut chances - and didn’t again yesterday bar the penalty. Apart from Swansea we’ve created 1-2 per match at best during this latest death spiral. 

Edited February 24, 2022 by Gavlar Somerset Rover!

[Bigdoggsteel]

11 minutes ago, Gavlar Somerset Rover! said:

What chances? We barely create any real clear cut chances - and didn’t again yesterday bar the penalty. Apart from Swansea we’ve created 1-2 per match at best during this latest death spiral. 

You don't get a better chance than a penalty whilst playing 11 v 10 

We weren't creating a huge amount more earlier in the season, the difference was we were taking them. The Preston game case in point. Nothing until Brereton scored that header 

Edited February 24, 2022 by Bigdoggsteel

[Bbrovers2288]

3 minutes ago, Bigdoggsteel said:

You don't get a better chance than a penalty whilst playing 11 v 10 

We are impotent up top at the moment, creating nothing, and nobody taking what little chances we have. Your point was that you wanted buckley higher up the pitch last week, I said that didn’t work as it wasn’t his strength, you disagreed, you were wrong. Move on

[Bigdoggsteel]

8 minutes ago, Bbrovers2288 said:

We are impotent up top at the moment, creating nothing, and nobody taking what little chances we have. Your point was that you wanted buckley higher up the pitch last week, I said that didn’t work as it wasn’t his strength, you disagreed, you were wrong. Move on

What is it with everyone being so childish on here today? 

Buckley had 6 assists and was nominated for the December player of the month. 

Brereton, you know, our top scorer? Are you sure you watch the games? He went away for 2 games , came back off the boil and then got injured. 

Buckley has gone from passing it through to a lad who scored 20 goals to Gallagher and Khadra. Jesus it's not that difficult to understand surely? Buckleys ability to score himself has been shown up. It doesn't mean he's a disaster where he is 

Edited February 24, 2022 by Bigdoggsteel

[Bbrovers2288]

45 minutes ago, Bigdoggsteel said:

What is it with everyone being so childish on here today? 

Buckley had 6 assists and was nominated for the December player of the month. 

Brereton, you know, our top scorer? Are you sure you watch the games? He went away for 2 games , came back off the boil and then got injured. 

Buckley has gone from passing it through to a lad who scored 20 goals to Gallagher and Khadra. Jesus it's not that difficult to understand surely? Buckleys ability to score himself has been shown up. It doesn't mean he's a disaster where he is 

Just don’t like when your called out on your contradictions. Said yourself buckley has done nothing to merit his place a few pages back. Is no goals in 5, plummeting down the table not a bit of a disaster. 

[roversfan99]

At one point he very much merited his place as a false 9, he played there and was very important during our winning run. Him being there now isn't Mowbray meddling or coming up with weird experiments, it is the continuation of a successful tactic.

That being said, his performances in recent weeks have been as bad as anyone so he needs dropping.

[islander200]

Everyone has been poor from an attacking point of view 

For a bit of balance on Buckley

Going through our squad.

He has won the ball back the most times in the final third out of our squad.

He has created the most chances this season.

He is 2nd when it comes to assists.

His standards have dropped as have everyone else's maybe he should be dropped out for a bit but a similar case can be made for Rothwell to be dropped as since January his performance levels have gone down too.

[Tyrone Shoelaces]

12 minutes ago, islander200 said:

Everyone has been poor from an attacking point of view 

For a bit of balance on Buckley

Going through our squad.

He has won the ball back the most times in the final third out of our squad.

He has created the most chances this season.

He is 2nd when it comes to assists.

His standards have dropped as have everyone else's maybe he should be dropped out for a bit but a similar case can be made for Rothwell to be dropped as since January his performance levels have gone down too.

I’d play Buckley deeper and leave Rothwell out.

[islander200]

2 minutes ago, Tyrone Shoelaces said:

I’d play Buckley deeper and leave Rothwell out.

Both been poor lately and wouldn't be against that or even moving Rothwell further forward and dropping Buckley back.

His finishing is awful(Buckley) but the player himself openly admits goalscoring isn't his game.The goal was ruled out but I don't see many if any in our squad capable of playing the ball he did v West Brom when Brererton scored.

[Tyrone Shoelaces]

7 minutes ago, islander200 said:

Both been poor lately and wouldn't be against that or even moving Rothwell further forward and dropping Buckley back.

His finishing is awful(Buckley) but the player himself openly admits goalscoring isn't his game.The goal was ruled out but I don't see many if any in our squad capable of playing the ball he did v West Brom when Brererton scored.

His passing is his strength. He needs to be deeper for us to get the best out of him.

[roversfan99]

Play him deep and you dont have his pressing. All of his good performances have been higher up, maybe he can play a deeper role but its an unknown.