Transfer Window - COMPLETE. Where’s Gregg?

[ossyian]

42 minutes ago, SuperBrfc said:

That's bloody rich coming from Mowbray about somebody else. I didn't see any fire from him with us in 2nd place. Tosser. Mowbray that is, not you, Ossyian.

Ha ha. I've been called worse lol

[Ulrich]

I'd sell him. Get a decent manager in, flog BBD off to the highest bidder, chuck in 10m and five the new gaffer the nucleus of a good team and 30m to spend getting us up.

[bluebruce]

52 minutes ago, Ulrich said:

I'd sell him. Get a decent manager in, flog BBD off to the highest bidder, chuck in 10m and five the new gaffer the nucleus of a good team and 30m to spend getting us up.

Fantasy land. More realistic outcome is BBD is sold late in the window for about 15-20 million, and the new manager gets about 3 million to spend getting us up. Then by March or whenever, we are still hearing we might fail FFP.

[chaddyrovers]

Middlesbrough linked with Lenihan this morning  

[Sparks Rover]

8 hours ago, bluebruce said:

Fantasy land. More realistic outcome is BBD is sold late in the window for about 15-20 million, and the new manager gets about 3 million to spend getting us up. Then by March or whenever, we are still hearing we might fail FFP.

15m minus 7m minus sell on clause of 20% and we left with 6m.....we will see feck all

[Gavrover]

17 minutes ago, Sparks Rover said:

15m minus 7m minus sell on clause of 20% and we left with 6m.....we will see feck all

Sell on fee nothing like that.. 

[Sparks Rover]

17 minutes ago, Gavrover said:

Sell on fee nothing like that.. 

How much then?  20% is normal...is this a special deal that we made?

[Gavrover]

Just read that it is minimal and nowhere near the Armstrong amount.

[roverandout]

1 hour ago, chaddyrovers said:

Middlesbrough linked with Lenihan this morning  

Big surprise wonder where Mowbray could end up

[Mike E]

1 hour ago, Sparks Rover said:

15m minus 7m minus sell on clause of 20% and we left with 6m.....we will see feck all

I'm sure I read at the time there was no sell-on fee, which was why the deal was structured the way it was, and for so much money.

[chaddyrovers]

37 minutes ago, roverandout said:

Big surprise wonder where Mowbray could end up

Wilder wants him and don't see him leaving there. 

 

[Irish_Rover]

Is there really a sell on fee for BBD?!? Like we got properly done over the price so I assumed it was all paid up front in the 7mil, unlike Armstrong who we paid less up front but had to agree to a sizable sell on fee.

To be fair, a year ago if you mentioned that a 15-20m fee for Brereton is possible you would have been carted off by the men in the white coats! To get the 7 back and then have some over is pretty much more than any of us expected a year or two ago from the player!

I don't hear anything about contract negotiations with the player so I assume he is off this summer. Would be a nice bit to funds to play with for a new boss coming in. We just need to appoint the right one... so that's us goosed!

Edited May 15, 2022 by Irish_Rover

[tomphil]

I'm sure they said at the time the deal was expensive for a kid his age but it was a big lump up front an no clauses.

Just goes to show you can never believe what first gets said in football.

[Butty]

41 minutes ago, chaddyrovers said:

Wilder wants him and don't see him leaving there. 

 

Makes sense as when Wilder was in charge at Sheff UTD there were rumours about them being interested in Lenihan. Boro be a good move for him I think they’ll be up there next season, I hope he stays though of course but wouldn’t blame him for leaving to a club where he will get paid more and have a more realistic chance of getting promoted. 

[LDRover]

19 hours ago, chaddyrovers said:

On Butterworth, he needs regular football at league 1 or 2 level cos he has talent but playing a few minutes won't help him. On Fleetwood spell he played out of position or on bench cos they only played 1 up front. 

Butterworth was absolutely abysmal at Fleetwood. I can say for a fact that if we made him a free agent and he only wanted 200 quid a week then Fleetwood still wouldn't want him. There was total disbelief that he had plied his trade at Championship level during his loan spell there.

[simongarnerisgod]

1 minute ago, LDRover said:

Butterworth was absolutely abysmal at Fleetwood. I can say for a fact that if we made him a free agent and he only wanted 200 quid a week then Fleetwood still wouldn't want him. There was total disbelief that he had plied his trade at Championship level during his loan spell there.

did`nt he serious back problems which kept him out for a long time,that could explain his lack of fitness,he honestly does look shattered after 15 minutes,if your back is ****** when you ar`nt going to play effectively at  football league level

[LDRover]

1 minute ago, simongarnerisgod said:

did`nt he serious back problems which kept him out for a long time,that could explain his lack of fitness,he honestly does look shattered after 15 minutes,if your back is ****** when you ar`nt going to play effectively at  football league level

Think his problems are more between his ears to be honest.

[chaddyrovers]

1 hour ago, Butty said:

Makes sense as when Wilder was in charge at Sheff UTD there were rumours about them being interested in Lenihan. Boro be a good move for him I think they’ll be up there next season, I hope he stays though of course but wouldn’t blame him for leaving to a club where he will get paid more and have a more realistic chance of getting promoted. 

Surely that will be decide who our next sporting Director and head coach is. 

I can see Lenihan waiting to see who we appointment before he decides his next move

[Sparks Rover]

2 minutes ago, chaddyrovers said:

I can see Lenihan waiting to see who we appointment before he decides his next move

Then you don't understand football players.  He'll need to get in there early,  go on tour with his new team mates and have a full preseason....

He's not going to be waiting for these useless buggers to pull their fingers out....🤷‍♂️

Rovers tinted specs on again Chadmeister??

[roversfan99]

14 minutes ago, chaddyrovers said:

Surely that will be decide who our next sporting Director and head coach is. 

I can see Lenihan waiting to see who we appointment before he decides his next move

I think you are being very naive assuming that Lenihan will wait with any certainty.

The first thing is money, if a team offers him a decent pay rise, like the vast majority of people, he will probably go there instead, its a short career and he will be

Also, he will not wait indefinitely and you know what our club is like with unnecessary delays, things having to be signed off in India etc. Even if he is interested to see who our next manager is, if we don't appoint one in reasonable time he will have long gone. 

Interesting that you have copied onto here every single twitter interaction with journalists over the last week or so, but not the below which suggests that the imminent appointment you seem to expect doesn't seem particularly likely. Nothing was clearly lined up as was mooted by some.

 

[Exiled_Rover]

4 hours ago, Sparks Rover said:

15m minus 7m minus sell on clause of 20% and we left with 6m.....we will see feck all

There's no way we bought the lad for £6-7m AND added a sell on clause, right? We're not that moronic, surely. 

[Exiled_Rover]

3 hours ago, roverandout said:

Big surprise wonder where Mowbray could end up

If Middlesbrough want to swap managers I'm all for it. 

Edited May 15, 2022 by Exiled_Rover

[tomphil]

'Hello Steve it's Mr Bling here, have you sorted a manager yet for that loss making money moving part of my portfolio ?'

Er, you mean the football club ?

'Yes that's it, i forget its name, anyway is it sorted ?'

No not yet we were waiting for contact from you.

'Ah ok good, i have a name passed to me so please can you call him and offer him the job. Iv'e heard good things about him and have admired his work in the past.  His name is Mr Anthony Mowbray, do you know of him ?'

Er...... slight problem there you thick ####

[chaddyrovers]

37 minutes ago, roversfan99 said:

I think you are being very naive assuming that Lenihan will wait with any certainty.

The first thing is money, if a team offers him a decent pay rise, like the vast majority of people, he will probably go there instead, its a short career and he will be

Also, he will not wait indefinitely and you know what our club is like with unnecessary delays, things having to be signed off in India etc. Even if he is interested to see who our next manager is, if we don't appoint one in reasonable time he will have long gone. 

Well think what you like but I would imagine he is happy living where he does and with his family. Not sure moving to the North East would suit him. Yes Money will play a part But also is promotion and a chance of PL in his career. So I will stick to point that he will wait to see who our next managerial appointment is first before deciding his future. make a good ambitious head coach appointment and he will sign a new contract here. Over to Rovers to make it happen

37 minutes ago, roversfan99 said:

Interesting that you have copied onto here every single twitter interaction with journalists over the last week or so, but not the below which suggests that the imminent appointment you seem to expect doesn't seem particularly likely. Nothing was clearly lined up as was mooted by some.

Well your first part is very wrong and incorrect. 

Who knows what is going on in the background regarding the next appointment, I have heard several different stories from people about us already interviewing some candidates or have spoken to this people or not. Whether its true I don't know but we see in the coming weeks. 

[roversfan99]

14 minutes ago, chaddyrovers said:

Well think what you like but I would imagine he is happy living where he does and with his family. Not sure moving to the North East would suit him. Yes Money will play a part But also is promotion and a chance of PL in his career. So I will stick to point that he will wait to see who our next managerial appointment is first before deciding his future. make a good ambitious head coach appointment and he will sign a new contract here. Over to Rovers to make it happen

Well your first part is very wrong and incorrect. 

Who knows what is going on in the background regarding the next appointment, I have heard several different stories from people about us already interviewing some candidates or have spoken to this people or not. Whether its true I don't know but we see in the coming weeks. 

Why do you claim to know the inner workings of every players family?! How could you possibly know how the Lenihan family and whether they would be happy to move to the North East, or indeed whether it would "suit" them? Absolute nonsense and not the first time you have refused to acknowledge that not everyone will share your opinion that anywhere aside from the North West would be a downgrade!

You mention promotion aspirations, Wilder is probably as good and ambitious an appointment as you can get at Championship level, and Boro massively improved upon his appointment, so if you are talking Premier League aspirations, surely that move (if its true, my point isnt specific to gossip and rumours specific to Boro, I mean about any move) would fit in line with that anyway?

I stand by my 2 points. Money is key, its crucial to everyone and will be a driving factor in the vast majority of changes of employment not even specific to money, so if someone puts in front of him a fairly decent rise compared to the deal that we have offered, they will almost certainly have the upper hand. Time is also of the essence and he won't wait forever even if he would consider who our next manager was, and you seem keen to share most rumours but when you have asked (another) journalist a question on twitter and their response does not particular hint at a quick appointment, I find it interesting that you choose to exclude sharing that!