Transfer Window - COMPLETE. Where’s Gregg?

[MarkBRFC]

3 minutes ago, RoversClitheroe said:

Not reckon with SW and MV past that they were the ones pushing it?

I reckon they definitely were

I would say they definitely pushed it, but i don't believe that venkys knew nothing of it. 

[Mattyblue]

6 minutes ago, RoversClitheroe said:

6 minutes ago, RoversClitheroe said:

Not reckon with SW and MV past that they were the ones pushing it?

I reckon they definitely were

Possibly, maybe even probably they came up with the initial idea.

But you don’t get all the way to planning permission, architect blueprints, marketing brochures and a PR campaign to flog off one out of only two pieces of a fairly small business’ real estate without the bloody owners knowing!

Edited July 5, 2022 by Mattyblue

[RoversClitheroe]

4 minutes ago, Mattyblue said:

Possibly, maybe even probably they came up with the initial idea.

But you don’t get all the way to planning permission, architect blueprints, marketing brochures and a PR campaign to flog off one out of only two pieces of a fairly small business’ real estate without the bloody owners knowing!

Okay true.

But still 

[47er]

32 minutes ago, 1864roverite said:

So what you are advocating is that the wage structure in place is broken?

So you're advocating that we should keep it knowing it doesn't work?

[Guest]

Erm... some transfer news, speculation, gossip, hints, possibilities, insights, ITK clues etc would be nice.... soon 😉

[Guest]

Better than all this boring pish and wind, anyway....

[Northcote blues]

1 minute ago, Shirley Crabtree Wrestler said:

Better than all this boring pish and wind, anyway....

Completely agree. Step forward @unleaded

[RoverDom]

The wage structure is pointless if it allows you to pay Ayala at the top end of it for sitting on the physio table but not allow you to go higher for someone who could get you 40+ games a season. 

 

It's got to be a little more dynamic. If we keep ayala, we'll pay him 15k a week but we know we can't rely on him and we need another defender to come in of a reasonable quality to cover for him. If you pay him even just 10k, you're basically paying 25k a week to fill one position in the squad. Why not ship Ayala out and get a quality fit centre back in at 25k a week? Technically breaking the wage structure but it's the same cost to the owners and you're not paying the physios overtime. 

[rickard]

11 hours ago, Aqualung said:

It wouldn't surprise me if we sign the Swedish chef from the muppet show. 

still an improvment of some of the players we've had over the years...

[MarkBRFC]

I think its clear nothing is happening on the transfer front to be honest.

[Sparks Rover]

2 minutes ago, RoverDom said:

Why not ship Ayala out and get a quality fit centre back in at 25k a week? . 

Would have paid for the Anal bloke.....you are talking too much sense mate...stop it.

[Northcote blues]

3 minutes ago, RoverDom said:

The wage structure is pointless if it allows you to pay Ayala at the top end of it for sitting on the physio table but not allow you to go higher for someone who could get you 40+ games a season. 

 

It's got to be a little more dynamic. If we keep ayala, we'll pay him 15k a week but we know we can't rely on him and we need another defender to come in of a reasonable quality to cover for him. If you pay him even just 10k, you're basically paying 25k a week to fill one position in the squad. Why not ship Ayala out and get a quality fit centre back in at 25k a week? Technically breaking the wage structure but it's the same cost to the owners and you're not paying the physios overtime. 

Logical reasoning, but then kaminski catches wind and wants 25k, as does Dack, Wharton wants 15k instead of 10k blah blah etc etc 

[Gordon Ottershaw]

13 minutes ago, MarkBRFC said:

I think its clear nothing is happening on the transfer front to be honest.

I can't imagine that the new Coach, his staff and the DOF will be at the club for long if that is the case.

[Torgeir]

Don’t think JDT will throw his toys out of the pram over one deal. What’s concerning is the amount of time we spend getting deals done, especially considering we need more than a few before the new season kicks off. We either have a bit of luck to begin with or we will be in a dogfight this season, I’m leaning towards the latter at this stage. 

[Tricky]

24 minutes ago, Realistic Rover said:

kaminski catches wind and wants 25

and he is going to be a very busy boy this season with a few kids in front of him

[RoversClitheroe]

Let's hope we see some signings today and tomorrow, that's what the LT was saying.

I don't believe it for a minute though.

[RoverDom]

27 minutes ago, Realistic Rover said:

Logical reasoning, but then kaminski catches wind and wants 25k, as does Dack, Wharton wants 15k instead of 10k blah blah etc etc 

When Ayala and Gallagher are up there at 15k or so I'm surprised most of the squad aren't asking for 20k. 

[Mattyblue]

19 minutes ago, Gordon Ottershaw said:

I can't imagine that the new Coach, his staff and the DOF will be at the club for long if that is the case.

Indeed. TM was obviously happy enough to operate on VenkyTime, where such a convoluted sign off structure leads to inevitable delays and targets going begging.

I doubt JDT will have the patience for it.

 

 

[Miller11]

35 minutes ago, Realistic Rover said:

Logical reasoning, but then kaminski catches wind and wants 25k, as does Dack, Wharton wants 15k instead of 10k blah blah etc etc 

Which is exactly what happened with Lenihan on our existing wage structure apparently. Wanting “Ayala money” is the phrase someone used.

I’ve not seen anyone advocating smashing through any wage cap, but the current structure punishes loyalty and undervalues academy graduates. It’s not fit for purpose.

I listened to Mark Atkins the other week talking about how when Shearer came in he was on 10 times the wages of most of the rest of the players, and none of them begrudged it. I think the whole “keeping the group happy” is a load of nonsense… players get paid varying amounts and ideally their wage should be commensurate with their contribution. Underpaying everyone isn’t a solution. 

[G Somerset Rover]

38 minutes ago, RoversClitheroe said:

Let's hope we see some signings today and tomorrow, that's what the LT was saying.

I don't believe it for a minute though.

We can occasionally come out with a left field move or two, but this is going to have to be off the charts left field for us to actually get a signing or two in over the next couple of days when there is absolutely zero rumours.

[broadsword]

57 minutes ago, Gordon Ottershaw said:

I can't imagine that the new Coach, his staff and the DOF will be at the club for long if that is the case.

I'll be surprised if he's still here after March.

[windymiller7]

1 hour ago, Realistic Rover said:

Logical reasoning, but then kaminski catches wind and wants 25k, as does Dack, Wharton wants 15k instead of 10k blah blah etc etc 

If Kaminski's handling is that good, I'll gladly pay him £25k!

[Upside Down]

2 minutes ago, broadsword said:

I'll be surprised if he's still here after March.

I'll be surprised if he's still here at Christmas. 

[Danny O.Brien]

Yeah surely you perform well and then deserve a better deal. Whether you choose to accept it or not is another thing. I can't see players being up in arms over someone coming in on better money than them. That's the way football has always been and I think it's a cop out for the club when missing out on players. 

We were arguably worse off at the start of last season squad wise, then the season before. Alot of us predicated we'd stuggle. We then massively over achieved in the first half of the season. Which papered over the cracks, which began to show after Christmas. I worry for us this season if we don't add quality to the squad. If you're not progressing then you're only going to go backwards. New coach or not he's only as good as the players at his disposal.

 

[broadsword]

4 minutes ago, Upside Down said:

I'll be surprised if he's still here at Christmas. 

That was my first thought, but I didn't wish to appear pessimistic.