Transfer Window - COMPLETE. Where’s Gregg?

[tomphil]

6 minutes ago, Jimmy612 said:

Out of interest, do you think TM would have made the adequate signings to get us over the line?   I'm genuinely struggling to think of a signing that he made that really hit the ground running.  Brereton obviously didn't, Gallagher still hasn't hit the ground, never mind started to run.  Armstrong took a good while to set light as well.

Of his Jan signings, Giles was a disaster and played literally on the opposite of the field to where he was supposed to, Zeefuik was rubbish before his injury, and we saw 5mins of Markanday sadly. 

Given decent money and TOLD to go for it i think he might have done better.

Left to his own devises as we assume he mostly was then no i don't think he had enough appetite for it personally. So we got what we got and like i and many others said last season Markanday wasn't the striking option to make any difference to the promotion push that's clear now.

Plenty hid behind that as an excuse for no striking options brought in.

[Mike E]

12 minutes ago, K-Hod said:

This theory that he had money but wouldn’t spend it, just doesn’t work for me. He must be the first football manager in history not to lap up all of his budget!

Well by his own admission, he is! And he was an idiot for it.

[den]

41 minutes ago, arbitro said:

I am really uncomfortable with this slow build talk. Football evolves and changes so quickly and after the suggested three year period how many of today's squad will still be here? Trying to plan so far ahead in a notoriously volatile industry is doomed to failure in my view. In his time here Mowbray built two squads, one comparatively expensive and we never even got to the playoffs. That was five years.

Early days I know but on Wednesday what hurt us  most was the weakness of the squad and I'm fearful that this is going to hurt us tomorrow. The here and now is our squad is too weak.

The next game is all that matters, that’s what’s drummed into every footballer and rightly so.

it should be exactly the same for the manager. 5 year plans my arse.

[Jimmy612]

5 minutes ago, Gav said:

You make a good point Jimmy and to be honest I have no idea, but when a transfer fee was involved he usually bought well, his record is pretty good, you missed Dack of your list who was brilliant from day one, Kaminski too, Ayala when he plays, but we'll never know. 

If Venkys give JDT 8-10m to spend this season every Rovers fan should be up in arms, they're taking the piss out of us if they do that given where we found ourselves in January and plug was pulled. 

 

I did miss Dack, that's a good point, Gav.  Was thinking more of his 'big splashes', if you like.   Kaminski yes, but also bloody Pears and prior to that, Walton 😐  I'm also trying to think who he brought in Jan 2018, to get us over the line in League 1.  Jack Payne was one... I had high hopes for him after he gave us a lot of problems at Oxford away...  Was Paul Downing another or was he August?   Anyway, would be interesting so see his January activity there and see if any really made an impact.

[Sweaty Gussets]

Mowbray admitted he turned down strikers on loan from Prem teams in January. His rationale was because 'we don't play that way'. Not sure if he meant strikers in general or big target men. Anyway, it cost him his job. 

To the present window...

What date does the window shut? Is it Sept 1st?

 

 

[islander200]

35 minutes ago, Gav said:

He had no funds in summer 2021, what makes you think he suddenly had funds in January? 

What he did have in January was a top scorer about to miss several games due to international duty and a growing injury list.

Read between the lines islander200, he was saving face for the owners, he had no funds to speak of or he'd have spent them.

Saving face for the owners?That why in the same window he called them out in the media over not selling Rothwell? 

He said he could have brought players in  in January and didn't want a striker as we don't play with one and like you say it be stupid giving funds now and saying no in January when we were second. So far this window roughly £3 million spent with no sales.

Iv said this to you before we have shit owners and hopefully one day they be gone but still an awful lot of failings on the ground and that includes Mowbray who you want to excuse at every opportunity 

Do you still reckon we couldnt afford Maja as they only wanted a permanent deal and we couldn't afford it?

[Danny O.Brien]

25 minutes ago, ItsRoverZ said:

Understand what your saying but brittain has played RB or RWB most his career and can do either back 4 or 5 

Styles played LWB In a back 5 the season Barnsley got play offs ..I don't think he's ever played an out and out LB in a back 4

Surely with Travis and Buckley to extent playing fairly deep that will allow both fullbacks/wingbacks to push further up. Either way I'd rather have styles in any role or position over pickering right now. Best he's done all season is when he went to centre back last Sunday.

[Wing Wizard Windy Miller]

8 minutes ago, Sweaty Gussets said:

Mowbray admitted he turned down strikers on loan from Prem teams in January. His rationale was because 'we don't play that way'. Not sure if he meant strikers in general or big target men. Anyway, it cost him his job. 

To the present window...

What date does the window shut? Is it Sept 1st?

 

 

Given the lack of noise round incomings, I think its August 12th.

[ItsRoverZ]

2 minutes ago, Danny O.Brien said:

Surely with Travis and Buckley to extent playing fairly deep that will allow both fullbacks/wingbacks to push further up. Either way I'd rather have styles in any role or position over pickering right now. Best he's done all season is when he went to centre back last Sunday.

Fully agree, I generally think pickering would make a decent CB , he does have a good defensive mind and looked assured there, I think his lack of pace ruins him.at fullback 

[Tyrone Shoelaces]

8 minutes ago, ItsRoverZ said:

Fully agree, I generally think pickering would make a decent CB , he does have a good defensive mind and looked assured there, I think his lack of pace ruins him.at fullback 

I’m going scouting for a full back. After 45 minutes I realise the guy I’m watching lacks real pace. I close up my notebook and leave.

Edited August 19, 2022 by Tyrone Shoelaces

[ItsRoverZ]

5 minutes ago, Tyrone Shoelaces said:

I’m going scouting for a full back. After 45 minutes I realise the guy I’m watching lacks real pace. I close up my notebook and leave.

Would you say pickering has the makings of a decent CB?

[Tyrone Shoelaces]

7 minutes ago, ItsRoverZ said:

Would you say pickering has the makings of a decent CB?

Possibly, a lack of real pace isn’t so evident there. Does he relish the physical side of the game ? What is he like at winning contested headers ?  Does he read play well or is he drawn to the ball at times ? Does he dive in or does he stay on his feet ? What’s his passing like off both feet ? 
 

You find these things out in full scale practice matches.

 

The last left back we had called Pickering turned to be the best striker to play for us, apart from Shearer of course. He was pretty average as a defender before he was converted.

Edited August 19, 2022 by Tyrone Shoelaces

[chaddyrovers]

1 hour ago, JHRover said:

Well if people carry on inflating the fees we paid for Brittain and Szmodics you might end up right.

We spend money which you didn't expect us to so just admit you were wrong. We have upgrade on Nyambe with Brittain signing. Szmodics suits how JDT wants to play

1 hour ago, Gav said:

That’s a budget not seen at this football club in years, I’d be astonished and angry if we spent that sort of money now.

We had the best opportunity in 12yrs to go up last season and they failed to back the manager, if they do it now I’d be absolutely fuming and convinced the plan is to remain in Championship.

Mowbray had money in January and didn't spend it. That's on him. His failure after the transfer window cost us our top 2 spot and playoff place. Its time he took his share of the blame for that failure. 

40 minutes ago, tomphil said:

He has also signed players so it's down to him obviously.

It's job is to improve the entire football side of the club which he is doing and bringing in good appointments. 

[Tyrone Shoelaces]

3 minutes ago, chaddyrovers said:

We spend money which you didn't expect us to so just admit you were wrong. We have upgrade on Nyambe with Brittain signing. Szmodics suits how JDT wants to play

Mowbray had money in January and didn't spend it. That's on him. His failure after the transfer window cost us our top 2 spot and playoff place. Its time he took his share of the blame for that failure. 

It's job is to improve the entire football side of the club which he is doing and bringing in good appointments. 

Some of us marked your card regarding Mowbray seasons ago but you wouldn’t have it then.

[TheRevAshton]

Just a thought... how much are Luton after for Elijah Adebayo?

Seen that Rooney was looking at moving for him at DC United, reportedly looking to offer around £5m!? That being said, you'd imagine they'd want closer to £10m.

Makes me wonder if a deal involving Gallagher and a little cash could tempt them?

Unlikely I know, but I feel like Gally could be a good fit for them, whilst Adebayo could make a big difference for us up top.

Edited August 19, 2022 by TheRevAshton

[chaddyrovers]

2 minutes ago, Tyrone Shoelaces said:

Some of us marked your card regarding Mowbray seasons ago but you wouldn’t have it then.

And I said in very open and passion post that I want him in February 2021 after Barnsley away defeat. Anyway that's the past and we moved on now under JDT and it's good start to his time here. Onwards and upwards under JDT

[rover23]

56 minutes ago, Gav said:If Venkys give JDT 8-10m to spend this season every Rovers fan should be up in arms, they're taking the piss out of us if they do that given where we found ourselves in January and plug was pulled. 

 

FFS. We should be up in arms because they didn’t spend money in one transfer window. 

We should be up in arms because they’re spending money in another transfer window. 

Rovers had around 3-4m in January to spend, they spent a little on Markanday & Hedges, the other they bid for Dembele who chose Bournemouth. 
 

Venkys will have needed to promise a new manager funds in order to get him in. 

If JDT came in on the promise of £6-8m to spend and then we brought in free transfers and had no money, we’d be on another 2 month manager search come September. He’s shown at Malmo he isn’t afraid to walk away if it’s not what he wants. 

 

 

[JHRover]

18 minutes ago, chaddyrovers said:

We spend money which you didn't expect us to so just admit you were wrong. We have upgrade on Nyambe with Brittain signing. Szmodics suits how JDT wants to 

Actually it's going almost exactly as I predicted it would. I said we would do similar to recent windows which is to sign a few younger end or from League One for a few hundred grand each like with Markandy, Davenport, Pickering and Edun. Looks like we've continued that with Brittain and Szmodics. Also continuing to rely heavily on loans which makes a mockery of the building claim.

All this goes hand in hand with continued talk of good budgets, and rumours of big names being targeted, but at the end of the day little to no evidence to back that up with results.

This summer it is the lad who went to Sheff Utd and Styles/Van Hecke. Previous years it was Assombalonga, Kipre and co.

 

[47er]

1 hour ago, Tyrone Shoelaces said:

I agree. However if there was to be a “ first manager not to spend all of his budget “ Mowbray would fit the bill.

Didn't want the journey to end too soon!

[unleaded]

Don’t understand Broughton .. know we are waiting on the 2 Vans but what’s stopping him filling other positions ……it’s hampering JDT as he expects 4/5 players ….

[JHRover]

2 minutes ago, unleaded said:

Don’t understand Broughton .. know we are waiting on the 2 Vans but what’s stopping him filling other positions ……it’s hampering JDT as he expects 4/5 players ….

He's working for Venkys and the shadow man. 

[Guest]

1 hour ago, K-Hod said:

This theory that he had money but wouldn’t spend it, just doesn’t work for me. He must be the first football manager in history not to lap up all of his budget!

He's on record throughout his five years as saying he had to reign Venky's in when they wanted to spend more money, that he left some in budgets so he didn't waste their money etc.

[davulsukur]

2 minutes ago, unleaded said:

Don’t understand Broughton .. know we are waiting on the 2 Vans but what’s stopping him filling other positions ……it’s hampering JDT as he expects 4/5 players ….

Waiting on the 2 vans!

Now that would be some business.

#BringJPVHhome

[Tyrone Shoelaces]

27 minutes ago, rover23 said:

FFS. We should be up in arms because they didn’t spend money in one transfer window. 

We should be up in arms because they’re spending money in another transfer window. 

Rovers had around 3-4m in January to spend, they spent a little on Markanday & Hedges, the other they bid for Dembele who chose Bournemouth. 
 

Venkys will have needed to promise a new manager funds in order to get him in. 

If JDT came in on the promise of £6-8m to spend and then we brought in free transfers and had no money, we’d be on another 2 month manager search come September. He’s shown at Malmo he isn’t afraid to walk away if it’s not what he wants. 

 

 

They made promises to Lambert that they didn’t keep, allegedly of course.

[islander200]

29 minutes ago, JHRover said:

Actually it's going almost exactly as I predicted it would. I said we would do similar to recent windows which is to sign a few younger end or from League One for a few hundred grand each like with Markandy, Davenport, Pickering and Edun. Looks like we've continued that with Brittain and Szmodics. Also continuing to rely heavily on loans which makes a mockery of the building claim.

All this goes hand in hand with continued talk of good budgets, and rumours of big names being targeted, but at the end of the day little to no evidence to back that up with results.

This summer it is the lad who went to Sheff Utd and Styles/Van Hecke. Previous years it was Assombalonga, Kipre and co.

 

Brittain was a championship player and isn't the Szmodic deal a fee rising to £2.5 Million...it's hardly a few hundred grand is it?