Which utterly brilliant manager will we be delighted to welcome next?

[islander200]

35 minutes ago, Gav said:

That was a lifetime ago but it did happen. Our spending over the last 4 transfer windows = £1.99.

£300k for a new pitch = No money. Ground maintenance = No money. Playing assets new contracts = No money. 

If you think the new man is getting serious funds good luck to you.

 

I never said I think the new man is getting serious funds.

I disagree that no decent manager would be willing to join us.

It wasn't a lifetime ago either it was pre pandemic, since the pandemic most clubs have cut back on their spending.Mowbray wasn't alone in having his budget cut.

I asked you to name the clubs that have kept spending money in this division (excluding the parachute payment clubs).

You keep making out that Mowbray had an impossible job here and was hard done by which I don't agree with.

Who gets 5 years these days?He was never forced to sell a player.5 years and only 2 players of value sold in that time David Raya who Mowbray didn't particularly rate and Armstrong who only had 1 year left on his contract.

[RoversClitheroe]

19 minutes ago, martonrover said:

Ainsworth has got results at a club with scant resources, no reserve team and certainly no youth set up of the type that Rovers managers can cherry pick from.

I'm sure he would promote players from the academy IF they are good enough.

He hasn't brainwashed supporters with talk of a journey or how he is there to develop young players.

He does what he is paid for.

Spot on

[Claytons Left Boot]

10 hours ago, goozburger said:

Ainsworth said he's "flattered" to be linked, so why not? He'd have best part of a Brereton sale to play with…

At my last place of work, a phrase used almost daly was, ‘assumption is the mother of all fuck ups.’ 😆 If Brereton were to be sold for £15m, I reckon we’d be lucky to see £3-5m of it.

 

8 hours ago, WacoRover said:

If Dyche is out of our reach, & Farke says no, Ainsworth sounds like a man with whom the club needs to have a conversation. 

I’d certainly go along with that.

[JHRover]

But then the whole process of analysing track records and styles is pointless, as in the case of Ainsworth where the is clear evidence of using an old and experienced squad and unattractive football we can just ignore or overlook those issues because we hope he will do it differently here.

Any other manager in the world could try to do things differently. Trouble is we don't know if he can, because he never has before.

Most won't be bothered as winning football trumps pretty football but I'm just going off the ingredients Mowbray said we needed which I assume Venkys and Pasha will want from the next one. Especially a close relationship with the academy.

[tomphil]

6 hours ago, Bbrovers2288 said:

Not heard of 99 crimes, is it more naughty than the well known 19 crimes label? 

Ha ha could be.

It was nice though that's all i remember.

[tomphil]

9 hours ago, Darwen Rover 007 said:

I must say, hearing Ainsworth speak, he really won me over, passionate, positive, players must love playing for him!  He has made his team better than the sum of its parts and also made his players significantly better than the level they shoild actually be at!? 

A very poor man's Jurgen Klopp maybe! 

But yes think he speaks well and could be exactly what we need for the next 5yrs! 

I felt the same listening to a few other managers last season, clear, straight to the point and not afraid to say when something just wasn't good enough.

Now i know we don't listen to them all the time but in contrast to ours it was a stark one.

[RoversClitheroe]

14 minutes ago, tomphil said:

Ha ha could be.

It was nice though that's all i remember.

Isn't it Snoop Dogg's wine? I seem to remember

[MarkBRFC]

11 hours ago, DeeCee said:

If "we" interview "our" top 4/5 choices, would any of them take the job with the constraints that they face?

They will have seen the previous manager get 5 years at the job, under very little pressure, to do what he wants at the club.

What manager in todays world wouldn't want that?

 

[Paul Mani]

The snobbery around lower league / untested managers in here is odd considering most of us genuinely believe that we know something about football. Laziness at best…

We know that there’s a LOT of managers in the Championship, and even some in the Premier League who are stealing a living. Who move from job to job doing ‘meh’ jobs and yet somehow manage to get another one..

There is a lot of talent in the lower leagues who are up and coming. Some of whom are held back by the bottle neck created by the average Joes (as above). Because chairman don’t want to gamble on something exciting and fresh which might come back to bite you and instead lean towards a Chris Hughton because if it doesn’t work out, they can say “Wait, I went for proven quality”

IF, and that’s a huge IF we have done our due diligence then I think there’s scope for going after fresh, new manager who is ready to be the next Eddie Howe!

Fingers crossed we have. I 💯believe they’ve been in the market and looking for a manager for 12 months 🤞🏽

Edited May 12, 2022 by Paul Mani

[Danny O.Brien]

20 minutes ago, MarkBRFC said:

They will have seen the previous manager get 5 years at the job, under very little pressure, to do what he wants at the club.

What manager in todays world wouldn't want that?

 

That's actually a great point 😂 as bad as the owners are. Any manager coming in, knows they can go on as bad a run as we did after Christmas and not get sacked.

[PLJPB]

2 hours ago, Gav said:

We need a manager who can put this club into the Premiership in the next couple of years, do you think Ainsworth is that man roverandout?

Did you think that man was Mowbray?

[JHRover]

It comes down to risk.

People can label the likes of Hughton as boring or yesterdays men, but the simple reality of the matter is he's won automatic promotion twice in the last decade and also led a shambolic Birmingham side to the play-offs.

Therefore, if you are wanting to do similar, it makes sense that you would look at his record and think he has what it takes to repeat it or go close.

Of course someone in the lower leagues could also do this, and might even do it for less money or playing nicer football, but there is a much greater risk, because they are in the lower leagues for a good reason - either they are still on their way up and have it to prove or they haven't got the accomplishments behind them to walk into Championship jobs.

The reason people like Hughton, Warnock, Bruce keep on getting job after job isn't because Chairmen are all boring, lazy, unimaginative. It is because Chairmen want a solid, low risk appointment in the hope of getting promoted because these managers have proven time and time again they can do it.

Daniel Farke is a proven promotion winner - nobody can beat his record in his last two Championship seasons - and he's available. So if a club genuinely wants promotion they shouldn't look any further and should give him what he needs to do the job. But we are the sort of Club that looks a gift horse in the mouth or will baulk at a manager making demands on finances or staff. This isn't because we can't afford it or can't attract these people, £15 million a year losses show we can afford it. But people along the line try to win brownie points and try to be too clever about things and more often than not it backfires.

[Gav]

8 minutes ago, PLJPB said:

Did you think that man was Mowbray?

Nope.

Mowbray gave us stability, a steady hand until the owners sod off. Now we’ve rolled the dice, I think we’re relegation candidates for next season as a result.

Edited May 12, 2022 by Gav

[SBlue]

11 hours ago, davulsukur said:

Main issue with Carhalval is that he's only ever at clubs for 1 season (or less!) 

Looks like Sheff we'd was his only stint longer than that, and in he managed 2 play off finishes, getting to the final in one of those.

Wouldn't be much of a long term solution but it doesn't really matter if he got us promoted.

I'd have a couple more reservations tbh.

He spent enormous sums and couldn't get Wednesday over the line.

Came out of nowhere via Portugal when "agents" were advising Chansiri. Delayed the launch of replica kits while he set up his own factory which got the contract etc.

Something a bit fishy with him imo. 

He'd fit right in.

[RoversClitheroe]

3 minutes ago, Gav said:

I think we’re relegation candidates for next season as a result.

Didn't Mowbray have us on relegation form. If you took the 2nd half of his 2 last season's here I think we'd be bottom? 

[Tricky]

3 minutes ago, S8 & Blue said:

Came out of nowhere via Portugal when "agents" were advising Chansiri. Delayed the launch of replica kits while he set up his own factory which got the contract etc.

 

remember when we had a Portuguese contingent come in under Kean - why did that happen again?

Blackburn's Portuguese players fuming after being made scapegoats for slump - Mirror Online

 

 

[CrouchingNunhiddenCucumber]

43 minutes ago, Paul Mani said:

The snobbery around lower league / untested managers in here is odd considering most of us genuinely believe that we know something about football. Laziness at best…

We know that there’s a LOT of managers in the Championship, and even some in the Premier League who are stealing a living. Who move from job to job doing ‘meh’ jobs and yet somehow manage to get another one..

There is a lot of talent in the lower leagues who are up and coming. Some of whom are held back by the bottle neck created by the average Joes (as above). Because chairman don’t want to gamble on something exciting and fresh which might come back to bite you and instead lean towards a Chris Hughton because if it doesn’t work out, they can say “Wait, I went for proven quality”

IF, and that’s a huge IF we have done our due diligence then I think there’s scope for going after fresh, new manager who is ready to be the next Eddie Howe!

Fingers crossed we have. I 💯believe they’ve been in the market and looking for a manager for 12 months 🤞🏽

What exact part of the past 12 years gives you the belief that our illustrious owners are even aware that our manager has left, let alone been "in the market and looking for a manager for 12 months"? Mowbray himself announced he was leaving several weeks before we hear anything from the club ffs, blows my mind how you can think there is any kind of plan in place. 

[islander200]

8 minutes ago, Tricky said:

remember when we had a Portuguese contingent come in under Kean - why did that happen again?

Blackburn's Portuguese players fuming after being made scapegoats for slump - Mirror Online

 

 

Shebby Singh was the man who brought them to the club.Thought Portugal had a lot of talent coming through

[Displaced Rover]

12 minutes ago, Gav said:

Nope.

Mowbray gave us stability, a steady hand until the owners sod off. Now we’ve rolled the dice, I think we’re relegation candidates for next season as a result.

We were literally the worst team in the league for half a season with Mowbray...It's hardly rolling the dice to want to improve on that.

If anything it would be a gamble to hope we had a good start to next season with him, before the inevitable post Christmas capitulation. 

[Exiled_Rover]

2 hours ago, islander200 said:

8 million on Brererton and 5 million on Gallagher is bargain basement?

Pre pandemic Mowbray had money to work with a LOT more than most in this division.

With the exception of the parachute payment clubs name me the clubs that have spent good money in the championship since the pandemic?

If the owners were to pay the money then managers would join regardless of their reputation.The problem is they have always gone for the cheaper option it isn't the case that a raft of high profile managers have turned the job down

Added to those huge layouts for Brereton and Gallagher:

• Whatever Ayala was on a week, when every report said he'll play half a season at best (and none of the winter).
• Whatever Pears was on a week (a 3 year contract to your mate's son who is not actually a professional goalkeeper).
• Those loans wouldn't have been free either - we're either picking up massive wages or paying a hefty loan fee. 
• The contracts of fringe players that were extended during COVID because you liked them (Smallwood / Gladwin).

 

Mowbray has had it made here.

Edited May 12, 2022 by Exiled_Rover

[chaddyrovers]

21 minutes ago, Gav said:

Nope.

Mowbray gave us stability, a steady hand until the owners sod off. Now we’ve rolled the dice, I think we’re relegation candidates for next season as a result.

Mowbray had 4 seasons to get us promotion and he failed. He has more money than other clubs. He was more than backed from the owners..

We were second on the 8th February and somehow we didn't make the playoffs so who is to blame for this? Surely Mowbray has to take the blame in the main. 

Also how are relegation candidate for next season before we even appoint his replacement? 

Edited May 12, 2022 by chaddyrovers

[Wheelton Blue]

16 minutes ago, RoversClitheroe said:

Didn't Mowbray have us on relegation form. If you took the 2nd half of his 2 last season's here I think we'd be bottom? 

Exactly.

The evidence of the second half of the season shows that Mowbray was anything but a steady hand.

Carry on with that form, and we definitely will be relegation candidates.

[PeteJD13]

2 minutes ago, chaddyrovers said:

Mowbray had 4 seasons to get us promotion and he failed. He has more money than other clubs. He was more than backed from the owners..

We were second on the 8th February and somehow we didn't make the playoffs so who is to blame for this? Surely Mowbray has to take the blame in the main. 

Also how are relegation candidate for next season before we even appoint his replacement? 

because chaddy mowbray is the only manager we can have at this club, we should be thankful Mowbray did us all a favour by managing us and taking home a decent weekly wage packet. Remember he took us up from league one.....

[chaddyrovers]

Just now, PeteJD13 said:

because chaddy mowbray is the only manager we can have at this club, we should be thankful Mowbray did us all a favour by managing us and taking home a decent weekly wage packet. Remember he took us up from league one.....

I am grateful for league 1 promotion but this season after being second we should at least got a playoff place. 

Rovers need to get Daniel Farke and back him financially and give him 2 years to achieve promotion 

[Exiled_Rover]

3 hours ago, Paul Mellelieu said:

I don't get the Ainsworth thing to be honest.  If he wasn't a Rovers supporter I doubt he'd register.

The fact that he's a Blackburn Rovers youth player, and apparently a fan, has put him on the radar of the fans (and apparently the owners).

He's done a great job at Wycombe though - he's eminently more qualified than some of the chancers we've handed the keys to.

He's not my first choice, but watching Wycombe beat MK Dons in the Playoff Semi Finals this week reminded me that his teams are incredibly well drilled and will run through a brick wall for him. That's a damn sight better than what we've had since Hughes.