Which utterly brilliant manager will we be delighted to welcome next?

[tomphil]

3 hours ago, goozburger said:

For those that think Dyche has been interviewed or is a possibility, do you think he'd be happy as a Head Coach with a Director of Football leading the way for his signings? Bit of a rhetorical question, really, as I don't think he'd accept that setup. I think he needs to be in full control of his own signings to be a success.

If anything, I'd say that would be more of a reason for him not being interested in the job than him wanting to be respectful to Burnley. There is little loyalty in football these days, only cleverly worded fluff and PR speak.

Not beyond the realms of possibility Dyche and a few other available names have sounded out the position to see what is on offer at least.  They know the setup here and they know Rovers is capable of doing better plus they know how wealthy the ownership is.

So a quick look to see what might be available is a no brainer but far away from either side actually pursuing anything.

[roversfan99]

If we put a contract in front of Dyche in excess of the money he was on at Burnley, he certainly wouldn't decline out of "respect" and through "loyalty" towards them, the only reason in that instance that he would decline is if he felt he could get better elsewhere.

Obviously its a moot discussion as we won't do that, it will be on the cheap and probably not a decision with any logic, but lets be real.

[rover23]

I can’t believe there’s people on here complaining that we’ve wasted time by interviewing different managers. 

It’s really worked well for us in the past when we’ve just used a ‘consultant’ to cherry pick a manager for us hasn’t it… 

If they’d just gone and appointed the first name they considered, we’d be sat here with Duncan Ferguson as our manager now. That might still happen, but at least they are taking a measured approach and seeing what is available. 

[martonrover]

24 minutes ago, rover23 said:

at least they are taking a measured approach and seeing what is available. 

…….and won’t involve compensation. We are fishing in the freebie pool, which excludes a few decent potential candidates.

Oh, and we’ll probably still end up with a cheap rookie.

[JHRover]

Well if we look at the 3 promoted managers this season I don't think any of them were appointed following month+ long searches, expanding shortlists and sitting there waiting for applications and expressions of interest to come in.

Each of those clubs knew more or less what they were after and went after their targets.

[Exiled in Toronto]

Am I the only person surprised that the most vociferous Mowbray Out posters in days gone by are now shocked and outraged to discover we have a slow, unambitious, cheap approach run by powerless clowns to recruit his successor? He had to go but let’s not pretend this process ever had a chance of being better than it is. The dice have been well and truly rolled.

[1864roverite]

I just hope Mowbray is sat at home with his gurner on his chest! He should be realising his stubbornness and failure to do what was basic football principals cost him glory and his team promotion! He will forever regret his attitude and failure to heed advice because of his big fat smoggy head🤬🤬🤬

[bluebruce]

2 minutes ago, Exiled in Toronto said:

Am I the only person surprised that the most vociferous Mowbray Out posters in days gone by are now shocked and outraged to discover we have a slow, unambitious, cheap approach run by powerless clowns to recruit his successor? He had to go but let’s not pretend this process ever had a chance of being better than it is. The dice have been well and truly rolled.

Nobody is shocked. Outrage is fair whenever our club isn't ran as it should be. Just because it's expected doesn't mean it's acceptable, and doesn't mean the previous shit manager should have stayed in situ. It was time to roll the dice, for better or worse.

[Mike E]

For those who don't like this process (including myself) there is at least the caveat that it's the closest to a normal recruitment process we've known under this lot.

I'm a bit annoyed we haven't headhunted but having a proper interview process of several proper candidates (rather than going down HSH's lists) is a marked improvement.

Edited May 29, 2022 by Mike E

[K-Hod]

It’s Venky’s, there was never a plan and I think Mowbray leaving pulled the rug from under them. When they act, they’re never quick, they’re always slow. Whatever the process in place for hiring and firing, it’s absolutely abysmal, let’s be honest.

[booth]

58 minutes ago, roversfan99 said:

If we put a contract in front of Dyche in excess of the money he was on at Burnley, he certainly wouldn't decline out of "respect" and through "loyalty" towards them, the only reason in that instance that he would decline is if he felt he could get better elsewhere.

Obviously its a moot discussion as we won't do that, it will be on the cheap and probably not a decision with any logic, but lets be real.

We definitely won't do that, he's reported to have been on £5.2m a year.

[chaddyrovers]

1 hour ago, JHRover said:

I've seen a few saying we should relax, and that as long as the new guy is ready to see the players when they report back for pre-season (June 13th is my understanding) that until then we can take our time.

Whilst strictly true that works on the assumption that it wouldn't help for the new manager to have some time before then to prepare. assess and do groundwork. The job of a manager, especially when we need plenty of new players, does not begin when pre-season training starts.

Yes I think we should relax as we have to 2 weeks before the players. So I hope and think Rovers will make an appointment this week for head coach position here. That would give the head coach a week or so to sort out pre season training, sort the coaching staff out. Then we sort out the Sporting Director role

we need plenty of new players? do we? we need about 6 new players. That isn't alot. 

1 hour ago, roversfan99 said:

https://www.birminghammail.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/michael-beale-not-interested-aston-24093864

Goes against Nixon's latest gossip and Chaddy's assertion that he has already been interviewed.

Well clearly Rovers wanted to speak to him just like QPR did but after talks he wants to stay at Villa which is his won decision. 

11 minutes ago, JHRover said:

Well if we look at the 3 promoted managers this season I don't think any of them were appointed following month+ long searches, expanding shortlists and sitting there waiting for applications and expressions of interest to come in.

Each of those clubs knew more or less what they were after and went after their targets.

why does that matter? 

Waggott and Rovers have decided to interview several different candidates and will appoint the person who fits the best man for the head coach job here. Another championship club in QPR are doing the same. 

2 minutes ago, goozburger said:

Interviews have been concluded, and recommendations are with the owners if reports are to be believed. If it's wrapped up within the next week or two, the new manager will be in situ by the time players come back for pre-season and the transfer window opens. This time around, it's not about the speed of the appointment, because I think it's been reasonable, and the stages have been well documented. It'll be all about who they appoint. I've heard some good names, and some terrible names. Fingers crossed it's one of the better names.

We can talk about speed, and Watford have been praised by one or two for theirs, but their quick-fire (teehee) appointment looks abysmal to me.

Yes Watford have made a quick appointment and didn't do it in the proper correct process. 

[Hi Mack]

15 minutes ago, 1864roverite said:

I just hope Mowbray is sat at home with his gurner on his chest! He should be realising his stubbornness and failure to do what was basic football principals cost him glory and his team promotion! He will forever regret his attitude and failure to heed advice because of his big fat smoggy head🤬🤬🤬

Watching the PO final has made me angry again. I don’t believe Forest are any better than us and Huddersfield certainly aren’t. 
they’ve both had managers that are tactically savvy and they’ve won/drawn games where they should have dropped points. 
 

What a waste of a season.

I am Hoping a a new manager brings fresh hope.

[roversfan99]

6 minutes ago, booth said:

We definitely won't do that, he's reported to have been on £5.2m a year.

Of course not, and even if he was on a similar wage to others, I would doubt hat we have the competence to select him anyway. Was just saying that any supposed loyalty to Burnley would soon go if you put enough money in front of him, like the majority of people.

1 minute ago, chaddyrovers said:

Yes I think we should relax as we have to 2 weeks before the players. So I hope and think Rovers will make an appointment this week for head coach position here. That would give the head coach a week or so to sort out pre season training, sort the coaching staff out. Then we sort out the Sporting Director role

we need plenty of new players? do we? we need about 6 new players. That isn't alot. 

Well clearly Rovers wanted to speak to him just like QPR did but after talks he wants to stay at Villa which is his won decision. 

why does that matter? 

Waggott and Rovers have decided to interview several different candidates and will appoint the person who fits the best man for the head coach job here. Another championship club in QPR are doing the same. 

Yes Watford have made a quick appointment and didn't do it in the proper correct process. 

Well not clearly, not every rumour is correct and maybe its just another instance of Nixon talking shite!

In your desperation for gossip, you have even started today using Mercer as genuine evidence of certain things!

[Hasta]

I’d have been happier if we had somebody lined up back in April when we obviously knew Mowbray wasn’t being kept on.

Clearly we had no plan, so we’ve gone to a full on interview stage.

In which case, as long as the best candidate who was interviewed is in place for the job before the team comes back fine. But you can’t interview the names mentioned and then come up with Big Dunc.
 

 

Edited May 29, 2022 by Hasta

[unsall]

16 minutes ago, JHRover said:

Well if we look at the 3 promoted managers this season I don't think any of them were appointed following month+ long searches, expanding shortlists and sitting there waiting for applications and expressions of interest to come in.

Each of those clubs knew more or less what they were after and went after their targets.

Forest thought they knew what they wanted when Hughton came on board, didn’t work, besides a bit of skill getting a new manager in it’s also a bit of a lottery.

Sometimes a good experienced name works and sometimes a young up and coming manager works.

The main thing Rovers need to learn is not to go cheap like the Coyle appointment 

let’s hope they make a good decision..

 

[1864roverite]

7 minutes ago, K-Hod said:

It’s Venky’s, there was never a plan and I think Mowbray leaving pulled the rug from under them. When they act, they’re never quick, they’re always slow. Whatever the process in place for hiring and firing, it’s absolutely abysmal, let’s be honest.

I disagree Khod, of course there is a plan, a process and a thinking method of who to give the job to! It’s all fair and well the experts on brfcs.com having their views but the reality is Rovers are making every effort to put the right people in place to manage the first team with a view to progression and promotion. Just because some may constantly take a negative view on what is happening, fail to think logically, blame everyone under the sun, slam the owners and Waggot, dismiss Pasha as a board member without authority, slate the work ongoing at the ground, the training centre, the academy, the ticket office and commercialism, the shirt colours, the fans and everything else just doesn’t add up to being correct or right in any shape or form. Yes we have seen some right fuck ups and some mad decisions that have cost them a packet but to simply refuse to think that history will just repeat itself is a complete nonsense if you ask me. Mowbray progressed the team and then ultimately ruined the best chance ever to take the team up. He has had the backing, the money and yet stubbornness cost him dearly! If you think the owners will not have seen the progress on the pitch again I think that is utter nonsense! 

[roversfan99]

3 minutes ago, 1864roverite said:

I disagree Khod, of course there is a plan, a process and a thinking method of who to give the job to! It’s all fair and well the experts on brfcs.com having their views but the reality is Rovers are making every effort to put the right people in place to manage the first team with a view to progression and promotion. Just because some may constantly take a negative view on what is happening, fail to think logically, blame everyone under the sun, slam the owners and Waggot, dismiss Pasha as a board member without authority, slate the work ongoing at the ground, the training centre, the academy, the ticket office and commercialism, the shirt colours, the fans and everything else just doesn’t add up to being correct or right in any shape or form. Yes we have seen some right fuck ups and some mad decisions that have cost them a packet but to simply refuse to think that history will just repeat itself is a complete nonsense if you ask me. Mowbray progressed the team and then ultimately ruined the best chance ever to take the team up. He has had the backing, the money and yet stubbornness cost him dearly! If you think the owners will not have seen the progress on the pitch again I think that is utter nonsense! 

Do you have any evidence or tangible signs of this plan, of this progress, of this ongoing work? 

Do you think based on the last 12 years that people are unjustified in being what you perceive to be negative?

[Butty]

Big Dunc into favourite on SkyBet now. They’ve obviously re-adjusted the odds after Mercer’s big lump yesterday. 

[Hasta]

5 minutes ago, 1864roverite said:

Yes we have seen some right fuck ups and some mad decisions that have cost them a packet but to simply refuse to think that history will just repeat itself is a complete nonsense if you ask me.

We don’t refuse to think that history will just repeat itself. We accept that it will . 👍

[Gav]

4 minutes ago, 1864roverite said:

I disagree Khod, of course there is a plan, a process and a thinking method of who to give the job to! 

These owners have known for months Mowbray wouldn’t be staying, any normal club with a plan would have had a manager sounded out, if not in place before the season ended. 

[Gav]

2 minutes ago, Butty said:

Big Dunc into favourite on SkyBet now. They’ve obviously re-adjusted the odds after Mercer’s big lump yesterday. 

What about Hasselbaink? 

[Tricky]

2 minutes ago, Butty said:

Big Dunc into favourite on SkyBet now. They’ve obviously re-adjusted the odds after Mercer’s big lump yesterday. 

Scary stuff though, the man that jointly almost relegated Everton in pole position for the Rovers job. 

[roversfan99]

2 minutes ago, Butty said:

Big Dunc into favourite on SkyBet now. They’ve obviously re-adjusted the odds after Mercer’s big lump yesterday. 

Hopefully the odds mean nothing as is often the case, because he would be a terrible appointment in my opinion, and totally not what is needed. Although even when we lost games, many focused more on Mowbray's demeanour so regardless of results, at least hed be running up and down the touchline.

[Ossydave]

9 hours ago, J*B said:

Dyche won’t work for Rovers out of respect for the Dingles. It’s a complete non starter. 

Bollocks 

He's got an axe to grind

Sadly he'll be out of our budget though I suspect, he was well paid at Burnley