Season tickets 2022/23

[Upside Down]

It's a colossal failure. By rights someone should be getting the boot for this.

[JHRover]

I've said before but I think it is a good thing that PNE and Bolton have both sold 13,000+ season tickets.

Why?

Because it destroys some of the myths that get circulated among the Rovers' support and corridors of power. Up to this point Waggott and co. and the legions of people who cannot contemplate criticising or questioning the official policy have been quite happy in their little world convincing themselves that sub-10,000 season tickets is natural, unavoidable, inevitable, impossible to better, and that anything higher is a private reserve for the big city boys or those who throw big money around.

Thanks to our neighbours that myth has been annihilated. It shows once and for all not just how appalling Waggott & his team have performed in the last 3-4 years (somehow presiding over a decline in sales at a time when rivals are increasing) but also more generally how terrible our sales have been over the last decade - never getting past 11,000 even in the 'good old days' of Gary Bowyer.

It goes to show that some semblance of a plan, joined up thinking and most importantly decent pricing can deliver much better than we've had and have been told is our lot in life.

Yes it is embarrassing, but at least it is ammunition to store for those who go on about the 'small town' stuff and 'we can't compete' nonsense. Well we can but that needs to start at the top, Ideally new owners but failing that a CEO and board with an ounce of ambition or pride.

Edited July 25, 2022 by JHRover

[Upside Down]

31 minutes ago, JHRover said:

I've said before but I think it is a good thing that PNE and Bolton have both sold 13,000+ season tickets.

Why?

Because it destroys some of the myths that get circulated among the Rovers' support and corridors of power. Up to this point Waggott and co. and the legions of people who cannot contemplate criticising or questioning the official policy have been quite happy in their little world convincing themselves that sub-10,000 season tickets is natural, unavoidable, inevitable, impossible to better, and that anything higher is a private reserve for the big city boys or those who throw big money around.

Thanks to our neighbours that myth has been annihilated. It shows once and for all not just how appalling Waggott & his team have performed in the last 3-4 years (somehow presiding over a decline in sales at a time when rivals are increasing) but also more generally how terrible our sales have been over the last decade - never getting past 11,000 even in the 'good old days' of Gary Bowyer.

It goes to show that some semblance of a plan, joined up thinking and most importantly decent pricing can deliver much better than we've had and have been told is our lot in life.

Yes it is embarrassing, but at least it is ammunition to store for those who go on about the 'small town' stuff and 'we can't compete' nonsense. Well we can but that needs to start at the top, Ideally new owners but failing that a CEO and board with an ounce of ambition or pride.

I agree 100%

[OldEwoodBlue]

STs were put on sale a month earlier than usual and we were told sales were ahead of last year.

New manager bounce.... no. Rovers fans won't be mugged off by the same old Venky tricks. Its top class players we need on the pitch.

Signings... no. Just a lad from Barnsley. Can't even credit GB and JDT as we tried for him in Jan so was clearly from the Mowbray / Park list. 

Marquee signings sell tickets but the custodians of our club won't understand that. So here we are 4 days from the opener, with sales less than last year.

Long gone are the aspirations of winning the £10K for 10K raffle. 10K is fiction.

Long gone are the Promotion Promises. Promotion is fiction.

Jack's legacy will soon be long gone as well. Along with the thousands of Rovers fans he filled Ewood with who have one by one had enough.

7800

Venkys Out

[rog of the rovers]

Question that I'm sure I know the answer to, but just to double check.

My dad now has a Senior season ticket, but often misses the first few games with being away on holiday.

Usually I have a mate that uses the spare ticket, with it being two adults theres never been the need to do anything. But now I assume he'll need to upgrade the ticket from a senior to an adult.

Does he just get charged the difference?

E.g. This weekend's game is £25 for adults and £20 for seniors.

Therefore he'd have to pay the £5 difference at the ticket office before hand?

[BigUts]

5 minutes ago, rog of the rovers said:

Question that I'm sure I know the answer to, but just to double check.

My dad now has a Senior season ticket, but often misses the first few games with being away on holiday.

Usually I have a mate that uses the spare ticket, with it being two adults theres never been the need to do anything. But now I assume he'll need to upgrade the ticket from a senior to an adult.

Does he just get charged the difference?

E.g. This weekend's game is £25 for adults and £20 for seniors.

Therefore he'd have to pay the £5 difference at the ticket office before hand?

I think you could be a bind here. I don't think the tickets are transferable so sharing of a season ticket is in essence in breach of the T's & C's so I don't think you'll be able to bump the ticket up to a full price one and pay the difference.

[rog of the rovers]

12 minutes ago, BigUts said:

I think you could be a bind here. I don't think the tickets are transferable so sharing of a season ticket is in essence in breach of the T's & C's so I don't think you'll be able to bump the ticket up to a full price one and pay the difference.

Just reading the T&C now.

It says you're allowed to share with a member of the family. I'll ring the ticket office for clarification.

[damo100]

On 25/07/2022 at 15:48, goozburger said:

Not sure how I can do it. 🤔

Any chance you could count the current numbers sold for the QPR game on Sat.

I've heard QPR have shifted around 1.2k as of today..

[MarkBRFC]

7 hours ago, damo100 said:

Any chance you could count the current numbers sold for the QPR game on Sat.

I've heard QPR have shifted around 1.2k as of today..

With the WBA tickets also being on sale you will never get an accurate count as there is bound to be an overlap with that.

[Riverside under the drip]

Just made the terrible mistake of reading the Telegraph comments about season ticket sales. Gave up quickly but here are some of the points made (some reasonable points on there too):

1) "£399 is for the Jack Walker isn't it? I'm sure that's what I paid for my daughter. Riverside and Blackburn End should be much cheaper."

Talk about ignorance. How do people like this get by in day-to-day life?

2) "Our season ticket prices have been steady for years." 

Riverside 19/20 (pre-Covid) - £319 22/23 - £399/429. Steady?

3) "Bradford have 14k sales in L2 because they're a big city."

Seriously?! Is population the main factor? Was Blackburn twice as big a decade ago? Another poster attacked the comparison saying how silly it was to mention it because their tickets were cheaper so OF COURSE there's more uptake. Erm... That's kind of the point...

I used to think that people on there were defending the club for the sake of it but maybe they're just quite thick.

Edited July 28, 2022 by Riverside under the drip

[Mattyblue]

It doesn’t help when the likes of Sharpe will say ‘Rovers season tickets are £399’.

The cheapest ones were, if you were an existing ST holder. Large parts of the Jack Walker Stand and any new fan in any stand were paying up to a £130 more than that £399.

[Sweaty Gussets]

20 minutes ago, Riverside under the drip said:

Seriously?! Lancaster has half a million too. Is population the main factor?

That's grown rapidly since the last census😉

[Mattyblue]

Think he’s moved a decimal point somewhere there…

[Riverside under the drip]

1 minute ago, Sweaty Gussets said:

That's grown rapidly since the last census😉

Oopsy! I googled an American city. Teach me to accept facts blindly! Oh well, let's try and salvage something:

Lancaster has a similar population to us. Are their crowds the same?

[Wheelton Blue]

The fact that Waggot has stated that ST sales are 'above budget', it's clear that he's purely measured financially - by squeezing the remaining customer base - as opposed to being proactve and finding credible ways to increase bums on seats.

Job done, in his world. How he's allowed to get away with it, is unfathomable.

It'll be the same approach next season, no doubt. He'll cover the anticipated drop in revenue/churn with yet another price increase.

[Sweaty Gussets]

2 minutes ago, Riverside under the drip said:

Oopsy! I googled an American city. Teach me to accept facts blindly! Oh well, let's try and salvage something:

Lancaster has a similar population to us. Are their crowds the same?

Haha, we've all done bad googling!

I think in fairness Blackburns is twice the pop of Lancaster. I think the best comparison to shut up the population twonks is Preston. A bit bigger than Blackburn but nearly twice the amount of ST's sold. Bradford is a bad example, but that's the LT comment pages for you!

[Sweaty Gussets]

4 minutes ago, Wheelton Blue said:

The fact that Waggot has stated that ST sales are 'above budget', it's clear that he's purely measured financially - by squeezing the remaining customer base - as opposed to being proactve and finding credible ways to increase bums on seats.

Job done, in his world. How he's allowed to get away with it, is unfathomable.

It'll be the same approach next season, no doubt. He'll cover the anticipated drop in revenue/churn with yet another price increase.

Good post. If 1 person paid £2.5m for a season ticket and nobody else turned up he'd be happy. He's just wrong for our club. Simple as that. 

[tomphil]

24 minutes ago, Sweaty Gussets said:

Good post. If 1 person paid £2.5m for a season ticket and nobody else turned up he'd be happy. He's just wrong for our club. Simple as that. 

That's exactly how he likes to operate.

[damo100]

8 hours ago, MarkBRFC said:

With the WBA tickets also being on sale you will never get an accurate count as there is bound to be an overlap with that.

Not really as the QPR and WBA are separate sales in the planners. 

Edited July 28, 2022 by damo100

[chaddyrovers]

 

 

 

[Mattyblue]

700 sold in a week? 

Great Brittain, indeed!
 

[damo100]

22 minutes ago, Mattyblue said:

700 sold in a week? 

Great Brittain, indeed!
 

Unless the complimentary tickets were added. 

[Mattyblue]

Could well be, as I’m sure until fairly  recently comps were included in the total.

Helps Waggott out PR wise for them to once again be bolted on to the total figure…

[Upside Down]

So @goozburger was spot on with his count then.

[Mattyblue]

Which makes sense because a comp seat would still be unavailable on the planner.