Jon Dahl Tomasson - Officially No Longer Our Head Coach

[Paul Mani]

1 hour ago, JHRover said:

Normally I'd agree with this sentiment, especially compared to the dingles who seem to have the ability to avoid any interest at all in their managers who overperform every year.

But in this instance the Club has to shoulder a lot of repsonsibility. 

It is lazy to simply say 'ah Feyenoord/PSV, he's always going to go there' 

If he'd been backed in January we'd have got in the play-offs. We might well be preparing for a day at Wembley and getting to the PL.

I'm not sure he would walk away from a PL job / season to move to the Eredivisie at this stage in his career.

But another long hard Championship season with us rummaging around for free transfers from League One and Two and the excuses about finances already in full swing yeah I don't think anyone could expect him to stay. What's the point, he could get us to top 2 or 3 in January and we might just 'forget' to do the paperwork again or claim FFP rules prevented us signing anyone as is the norm.

I don’t think any amount of backing or money could stop him from taking a job with the reigning Champions of a country where his family live and he’s hero worshipped.

The only thing that could’ve swayed it was promotion for us last season.

If Feyenoord want him, he’s going.

[phili]

1 minute ago, Paul Mani said:

I don’t think any amount of backing or money could stop him from taking a job with the reigning Champions of a country where his family live and he’s hero worshipped.

The only thing that could’ve swayed it was promotion for us last season.

If Feyenoord want him, he’s going.

I wouldn't object to a manager swap and appoint Ruud for ourselves really.

[TheRevAshton]

10 minutes ago, Paul Mani said:

If Feyenoord want him, he’s going.

Agreed, we have no chance - he's literally theirs if they want him i'd say.

8 minutes ago, phili said:

I wouldn't object to a manager swap and appoint Ruud for ourselves really.

Apparently Ruud left PSV due to a lack of support... in that case, the last thing he'd do is come here!

Edited May 24, 2023 by TheRevAshton

[JHRover]

14 minutes ago, Paul Mani said:

I don’t think any amount of backing or money could stop him from taking a job with the reigning Champions of a country where his family live and he’s hero worshipped.

The only thing that could’ve swayed it was promotion for us last season.

If Feyenoord want him, he’s going.

That's the point I was making. If the Club had backed him in January there's a reasonable chance we'd have got promoted and if we did we'd have the power to resist such interest.

It didn't back him so now we are in a weak position.

There will be plenty out saying the Club is blameless if he leaves. I disagree for the reasons above.

[NeilInBristol]

2 hours ago, Exiled_Rover said:

For actual fuck's sake - can we not have a decent manager for more than a year?!

God we're a cursed club. 

This is all speculation so let's see 

[neophox]

Steven Schumacher had an impressive season with Plymouth.

[jim mk2]

1 hour ago, Ewood Ace said:

Always comes across very well in his Sunday Times column. 

Do you really think Wayne Rooney writes that ?

[Ewood Ace]

Just now, jim mk2 said:

Do you really think Wayne Rooney writes that ?

He doesn't write it but they are his thoughts and they are often very good pieces. For a recent example his breakdown of the Madrid City tie in advance of it was spot on.

[JHRover]

Ruud Van Nistelrooy in exchange with PSV?

[Irish_Rover]

15 minutes ago, JHRover said:

Ruud Van Nistelrooy in exchange with PSV?

Can we get him involved as a player manager aswell to sweeten the deal. I'd have him up front over Gallagher all day long even though he's nearly 50!

[unsall]

Was told 2 months ago by an ex Rovers chairman that he thought Rovers were a stepping stone to a bigger club, hope he’s wrong but I’m not convinced he’ll be here at the start of the season.

On the plus side I think we are in a better position to get someone decent in with GB involved if indeed he does go.Certainly wouldn’t be an Owen Coyle type, think we’ve moved on from those days.

 

[tomphil]

He wouldn't have come here if he was going to jump ship the first sniff of other interest from abroad Champs league or not as allegedly he turned one down to come to England.

Feyenoord or the Prem ok that's different but i'd hope t would take something special to leave here rather than bolting for the sake of it.

[jim mk2]

Rovers, like any other club, should always have some idea on who the next manager will be. Managers come and go all the time and are only a bad run of results away from the sack - the Ewood hierarchy should be discussing now who comes next, even in the unlikely event that Tomasson decides to stay

[martonrover]

37 minutes ago, unsall said:

Was told 2 months ago by an ex Rovers chairman that he thought Rovers were a stepping stone to a bigger club, hope he’s wrong but I’m not convinced he’ll be here at the start of the season.

On the plus side I think we are in a better position to get someone decent in with GB involved if indeed he does go.Certainly wouldn’t be an Owen Coyle type, think we’ve moved on from those days.

 

Realistically, that how a young, up and coming manager will view us. 

The only time that wasn’t the case was under Jack Walker.

What you have to hope is that said manager achieves tangible success, eg promotion, en-route to a bigger club.

Perhaps if we’d given JDT the tools to do the job in January we’d have kept him for a while longer.

As others have said, if he’s going we need it to be quick to give us the opportunity of an early replacement, (if Broughton and chums get their act together).

[philipl]

Broughton has pretty well answered that one Jim without disclosing names obviously. 

For what it's worth, I don't think it is an automatic given that JDT would leave even though it would seem at least one if not both Feyernoord and PSV are interested.

It depends on JDT life plans and how he sees the best route to fulfil his ambitions and equally his view on managing downside risk.

If he is still here, I will be incredibly happy.

JDT is a class act as a coach and a person but it would also mean something has made him doubly believe in the Rovers project. 

[Guest]

It's fifteen years since we last had a manager wanted elsewhere. At least we're doing something right.

[JHRover]

We only become a 'stepping stone' at the point it becomes clear we cannot or will not match the manager's ambitions. If the manager believes in what we are doing and is confident he can achieve his aims with us then we aren't really a stepping stone

E.g. if we'd have got promoted this season, which we could have done, nobody would be talking about stepping stones because we'd be gearing up for a place in the richest and most high profile league in the world. 

But, because we messed it up and are a club with zero ambition and charlatans throughout it will be quite clear to JDT by now that he will have to treat this as a stepping stone. 

[Upside Down]

5 hours ago, Tyrone Shoelaces said:

The way the club is run from the top means we’ll never be able to hold on to anyone worthwhile for long. Be that players, back room staff, or managers. There’s no culture, no values, no nothing running the club.

If he does go - make it soon so we can can get in a replacement.

So the replacement will be in mid September. 

That's soon for this club.

[bazza]

3 hours ago, neophox said:

Steven Schumacher had an impressive season with Plymouth.

And he'll be looking to take 6 points off us next season.

[Darwen Rover 007]

Had a friend who was a Derby fan, couldn't speak highly enough of Rooney.. I wouldn't rule him out as a viable option 

[chaddyrovers]

2 hours ago, unsall said:

On the plus side I think we are in a better position to get someone decent in with GB involved if indeed he does go.Certainly wouldn’t be an Owen Coyle type, think we’ve moved on from those days.

I think you are spot on with GB in charge of the footballing side of the club he has plans in case we lose x and y from coaching staff which is similar mindset to Brighton and Brentford models. 

He brought in JDT within a week of his appointment and given how long the head coach search took last summer it put us behind in terms of planning, etc. Rovers should have hired GB much earlier and lets we wouldn't have been behind last summer. 

If JDT does go which I seriously hope he doesn't leave cos I think he is real deal and knows how to move us on and get us back to PL, I think GB will appoint another good head coach. 

[Andy]

Plenty of recent links with bigger clubs.

At least his new agent is earning his coin...

[Ianrally]

1 hour ago, Darwen Rover 007 said:

Had a friend who was a Derby fan, couldn't speak highly enough of Rooney.. I wouldn't rule him out as a viable option 

He might be more of a viable option for Everton if they get relegated and pot Dyche. 

Edited May 24, 2023 by Ianrally

[Ulrich]

1 hour ago, Darwen Rover 007 said:

Had a friend who was a Derby fan, couldn't speak highly enough of Rooney.. I wouldn't rule him out as a viable option 

No.

 

[simongarnerisgod]

5 minutes ago, Ulrich said:

No.

 

why,whats up with him