Jon Dahl Tomasson - Officially No Longer Our Head Coach

[tomphil]

Anyone taking JDT now will have to pay compensation i assume so would Stoke do that as well as guaranteeing him a Jan/Summer budget ?

Doubtful imo.

[Blow-in]

7 minutes ago, tomphil said:

Anyone taking JDT now will have to pay compensation i assume so would Stoke do that as well as guaranteeing him a Jan/Summer budget ?

Doubtful imo.

Would 750k be the decision maker when it comes to a new manager? I would imagine they would be happy enough to buy out his contract.

[tomphil]

17 minutes ago, Blow-in said:

Would 750k be the decision maker when it comes to a new manager? I would imagine they would be happy enough to buy out his contract.

Coupled with a budget they might has to promise him and the length of deal ?

Not many second tier clubs pay compen and put those sort of packages together these days.  Especially for a guy with just one English season under his belt and no promotions whose team currently sit mid table.

[Mercer]

Client of mine has hospitality facilities at Stoke and is close to the club.  He reckons new manager will be either Heckingbottom (impressed how quickly he turned it around at SU to get them up) or JDT (admired for his football and results given what he has to contend with).

It's a super opportunity for someone given the backing of the Coates' family.

If they decide they want JDT, he'll be gone.

Friend lives close to the Neil home in Longridge but not seen him yet.

Edited December 12, 2023 by Mercer

[davulsukur]

None of the Rovers hierarchy, Waggott aside, would be willing to let JDT leave right now. 

So I assume we'd play hardball (assuming our hierarchy are capable) if Stoke made any approach.

I don't know what Stokes expectations are but if they are expecting a promotion push and believe JDT is the man to deliver that, then they'll already know that they need to pay out some compo.

JDT doesn't even feature in the betting (on skybet) for the next Sunderland manager but they might go for Eustace, pushing JDT higher up the Stoke wishlist.

[martonrover]

5 minutes ago, Mercer said:

Client of mine has hospitality facilities at Stoke and is close to the club.  He reckons new manager will be either Heckingbottom (impressed how quickly he turned it around at SU to get them up) or JDT (admired for his football and results given what he has to contend with).

It's a super opportunity for someone given the backing of the Coates' family.

If they decide they want JDT, he'll be gone.

Friend lives close to the Neil home in Longridge but not seen him yet.

Agreed, he’ll definitely take it if given the opportunity.

[Mercer]

Really struggling to see why Eustace closely linked with all these jobs - just wtf has he done in football management?!

[tomphil]

Eustace is out of work which means no compensation, less of a package maybe needed to tempt him and less loses when/if they pot him.

Less hassle, less risk and he's a young English coach if that is what floats the boat.

[Mattyblue]

Eustace plays his cards right and he'll be the new Gary Rowett with a place on the Championship job merry go round.

Edited December 12, 2023 by Mattyblue

[Madon]

He is the second favorite now at 9/2.

[islander200]

2 hours ago, Mercer said:

Client of mine has hospitality facilities at Stoke and is close to the club.  He reckons new manager will be either Heckingbottom (impressed how quickly he turned it around at SU to get them up) or JDT (admired for his football and results given what he has to contend with).

It's a super opportunity for someone given the backing of the Coates' family.

If they decide they want JDT, he'll be gone.

Friend lives close to the Neil home in Longridge but not seen him yet.

Stoke have been a shit show since they got relegated from the premier league.

In my opinion it is not a formality that JDT would take the Stoke job.I don't see the upside to it.A club in a higher division, a club challenging promotion I could see but I wouldn't be so sure he would accept the Stoke job with a poorly balanced squad and not shown much this season.

The Coates back their managers with more cash than the Venkys do and are obviously better owners than ours but Stoke have been poorly run for a while now, a succession of managerial appointments not working out and their recruitment has been fairly poor.They signed 16 players in the summer is a new manager going to have a large kitty?

His reputation is on the up surely he sees the season out and has a look at opportunities in the summer?Rather than taking a stoke job that countless managers have been sacked out of since Pulis 

 

[Upside Down]

3 hours ago, SIMON GARNERS 194 said:

Hope they get big Frank🤡

Nah, I want him to get the Dingle job after st Vincent gets potted.

[simongarnerisgod]

2 hours ago, Mercer said:

Client of mine has hospitality facilities at Stoke and is close to the club.  He reckons new manager will be either Heckingbottom (impressed how quickly he turned it around at SU to get them up) or JDT (admired for his football and results given what he has to contend with).

It's a super opportunity for someone given the backing of the Coates' family.

If they decide they want JDT, he'll be gone.

Friend lives close to the Neil home in Longridge but not seen him yet.

ffs it`s stoke not real madrid,neill spent the considerable  budget in the summer so there won`t be any cash either

[booth]

3 hours ago, simongarnerisgod said:

ffs it`s stoke not real madrid,neill spent the considerable  budget in the summer so there won`t be any cash either

It's Mercer, the cosmos will make sure it's the opposite of anything he says.

[roversfan99]

6 hours ago, Mercer said:

Client of mine has hospitality facilities at Stoke and is close to the club.  He reckons new manager will be either Heckingbottom (impressed how quickly he turned it around at SU to get them up) or JDT (admired for his football and results given what he has to contend with).

It's a super opportunity for someone given the backing of the Coates' family.

If they decide they want JDT, he'll be gone.

Friend lives close to the Neil home in Longridge but not seen him yet.

Are there any clubs that you dont have connections to?

[Andy]

There is zero logic in JDT going to Stoke Fucking City.

He's ambitious and wants to manage in the top divisions; Rovers are more likely to get there than Stoke in the immediate future.

JDT will not be going to Stoke.

[tomphil]

Somehow i feel Mowbray would be a great fit for Stoke.

[rigger]

I am starting to lose confidence in JDT. I don't think we are playing good football, it certainly doesn't entertain me. I didn't go to the Leeds game, I thought £30 was too expensive. After tonight £20 was too much. I wonder if £11 for the Watford game will be value for money.

[Mattyblue]

We had a 15 year old on the bench, the bloke is doing a fantastic job.

[tomphil]

10 wins v 10 losses but we are 8th again with the highest number of loses in the top 10 !

Kamikaze is the best way to describe it and that is his style -at least we have one now. There are things i feel he should improve on and his use of subs and often in game management are poor too often imo.

However he wants the team and individuals to learn so i can understand in a way why he does or doesn't react at times. Sadly that is what they've now made the club into, just a development squad but at first team level.

It's virtually impossible for him, more than ANY other before him under this ownership, too move it forwards or make impact subs working with what he has.  So although frustrating it's harsh to expect much else at the min.

Too many losses but if we had 6 and 6 wins with 9 draws or whatever we wouldn't have lost as many but we wouldn't be 8th.

We'd be in Bowyer territory ( who had way bigger budget and squad ).

That i found was mostly v boring despite a bit of welcome stability.

[philipl]

JDT is doing a sensationally good job at Rovers.

Stoke unlikely to have much headroom under FFP.

If a Manager go round starts in the PL I would be worried. Eg if Palace come calling.

[roverblue]

7 hours ago, rigger said:

I am starting to lose confidence in JDT. I don't think we are playing good football, it certainly doesn't entertain me. I didn't go to the Leeds game, I thought £30 was too expensive. After tonight £20 was too much. I wonder if £11 for the Watford game will be value for money.

Similar feeling, never really been won over since he came. The guy has some sensational PR team the way he is talked about and the links to jobs in the media.

It’s good to have an identity but we don’t have the budget or players for it. I’ve lost count of the goals we have kicked in our own net like last night from trying it. When we go behind we stay behind and rarely make any subs till it’s too late.

I only attend home games but it’s been turd since he came in at Ewood. There was probably 7-8k on last night which gives you an idea of how exciting it feels to come down at the moment.

[Mattyblue]

The crowd last night tells you nothing. We always, always get turnouts like that for midweeks in winter. We have a paltry 9,000 ST holders plenty of who will give such games a swerve, also you don’t get many walk-ons or kids going in midweek ergo far less folk there than a weekend. Generally our gates are a bit up on recent years, nowt to write home about, obviously, but there’s certainly been no drop off under JDT.

You keep banging on about ‘PR’, ‘hype’. It’s a results business and he consistently gets them with a squad as weak as this, just look at the bench. You think we should be doing better?

Edited December 13, 2023 by Mattyblue

[Mercer]

8 hours ago, roversfan99 said:

Are there any clubs that you dont have connections to?

Yes, there are some!

Though after 40 years or so  as an accountant,  have met countless folk across all walks of life, including sport, leading to both friendships and enduring relationships.

[Darwen Rover 007]

I would be DEVASTATED if Jdt goes fo another championship club... I'll only accept him leaving if he goes to the Prem or a top club in another league.