Jon Dahl Tomasson - Officially No Longer Our Head Coach

[rigger]

Just now, SIMON GARNERS 194 said:

Imagine Hughes coming back to suddenly realize the sad truth of how this Club Circus is being run into the ground.

My God he would run a Mile!

Fair point

[Mattyblue]

The club he left wouldn’t push on to the next step which was Champions League… this club won’t even push on for a Championship play off place.

[SIMON GARNERS 194]

Playing in Europe,competing against the biggest Clubs in the Country in the top flight,Cup semi-finals and a Club that was at the heart of the community under John Williams.

Hughes wouldn't recognise this shower,tis tragic what has unfolded here.

Edited January 14 by SIMON GARNERS 194

[martonrover]

42 minutes ago, SIMON GARNERS 194 said:

Imagine Hughes coming back to suddenly realize the sad truth of how this Club Circus is being run into the ground.

My God he would run a Mile!

He certainly wouldn’t fancy working under a chancer of a Director of football as head coach.

[ABBEY]

Couldn't see this team being bully boys tho

[chaddyrovers]

3 hours ago, Hasta said:

One problem (and it is only one of many) is a defensive unit made up of Brittain,  Hill, Hyam, Carter, S Wharton, Pickering with Tronstadt and A.Wharton doesnt look that bad on paper. Some will disagree but,  with the possible exception of Adam Whartons defensive ability, there are far worse groups of players in those positions in this league

So why we have conceded the most goals in the league?

Clearly some of it has to be down to defensive coaching and the way set up. JDT cant control the budget but he can control that, and he is failing.

Next game if we are to set up exactly the same, I'd drop Adam Wharton for Garrett.

Players making far too mistakes, players out of form, can't defend simple balls into our box from crosses, set pieces 

2 hours ago, ABBEY said:

Take your head out the sand , how are we getting these players , f me we can't afford some kid from chuffing crewe.

Look at the transfer thread. All answers there

2 hours ago, ABBEY said:

Chad v the mullen..

Can I have a ten spot on the G man winning the war of words

I have no problem with Glen Mullan so I don't see why they would be war of words. 

[simongarnerisgod]

pears starts for the u`21s this aft,surely gets his place back next week

[Hasta]

2 minutes ago, chaddyrovers said:

Players making far too mistakes, players out of form, can't defend simple balls into our box from crosses, set pieces 

Maybe stop leaving us exposed with Adam Wharton as a deep midfielder then. If you’re shipping goals at an alarming rate maybe try setting up slightly differently. But that would mean invoking a plan B.

[chaddyrovers]

2 hours ago, glen9mullan said:

How can Lewis Obrien not be the football department?

GB gave a 30 minute interview admitting it was his fault.

he took the blame but it was football administration problem and we all know who that was. 

2 hours ago, glen9mullan said:

SW confirmed by L Talbot in meeting,  had the same power as Coar had under Jack Walker.  Day to day decisions are his , which fall under his remit. 

Did you not ask this when you went for your picture ?

it's over 17 months ago since I met Waggott, since then I have had zero contact with him. 

[chaddyrovers]

2 hours ago, JHRover said:

Reading this I'm getting the impression that you are accepting FFP isn't the issue here?

You're accepting the problem is the budget being cut from what Mowbray once enjoyed?

If it is then why could they give Mowbray those transfer funds and not JDT?

FFP rules are still there and Rovers still make more losses than the owners can fund due to the rules so sales are needed. 

No the budget was cut this season by 20% in terms of the wage budget

 

[Hasta]

3 minutes ago, chaddyrovers said:

he took the blame but it was football administration problem and we all know who that was. 

Partly Broughton’s as certain aspects of the contract / process were not understood causing an unnecessary delay from 10pm to 11pm. You just don’t accept this. 
 

[JHRover]

6 minutes ago, chaddyrovers said:

FFP rules are still there and Rovers still make more losses than the owners can fund due to the rules so sales are needed. 

No the budget was cut this season by 20% in terms of the wage budget

 

Ok.....so how we were able to agree, fund and sustain such a bigger budget for several years under Mowbray?

a)Have the rules changed in the last couple of years and we are now restricted much more than before?

b)Has our income plummeted unexpectedly forcing us to change track?

c) Or have the owners simply decided they don't want to put more in?

Please explain which one of these you believe is the answer and why. 

[chaddyrovers]

6 minutes ago, simongarnerisgod said:

pears starts for the u`21s this aft,surely gets his place back next week

lets hope so

1 minute ago, Hasta said:

Maybe stop leaving us exposed with Adam Wharton as a deep midfielder then. If you’re shipping goals at an alarming rate maybe try setting up slightly differently. But that would mean invoking a plan B.

Tronstad plays our the deep midfielder with Wharton higher up. 

 

[wilsdenrover]

7 minutes ago, JHRover said:

Ok.....so how we were able to agree, fund and sustain such a bigger budget for several years under Mowbray?

a)Have the rules changed in the last couple of years and we are now restricted much more than before?

b)Has our income plummeted unexpectedly forcing us to change track?

c) Or have the owners simply decided they don't want to put more in?

Please explain which one of these you believe is the answer and why. 

I know the correct answer 😁😁

[Hasta]

6 minutes ago, chaddyrovers said:

Tronstad plays our the deep midfielder with Wharton higher up. 

No, Wharton is often deep collecting from the defence and turning. When the opposition break at us it is Wharton who is often the midfielder in position to break up or stop that attack and because he isn’t very good at it, it causes massive issues, as seen clearly yesterday at the Hawthorns.

We’d be far more solid defensively if we started with Garrett / Tronstadt instead of Wharton / Tronstadt, but then what do you do with your most valuable asset?

The formation and style of play with Wharton playing where he is contributes to us being defensively weak. We either need to play slightly differently, or drop AW.

Edited January 14 by Hasta

[simongarnerisgod]

1 minute ago, chaddyrovers said:

lets hope so

Tronstad plays our the deep midfielder with Wharton higher up. 

 

adam has`nt got a defensive bone in his whole being and is pretty much a passenger when he appears in deep positions  and we are under pressure,he needs to be pushed further forwards with us playing two holding midfielders,as it stands we are wide open most of the time

[chaddyrovers]

10 minutes ago, Hasta said:

Partly Broughton’s as certain aspects of the contract / process were not understood causing an unnecessary delay from 10pm to 11pm. You just don’t accept this. 
 

I have said who is responsible for Lewis O'Brien failed transfer and it ain't GB. 

6 minutes ago, JHRover said:

Ok.....so how we were able to agree, fund and sustain such a bigger budget for several years under Mowbray?

a)Have the rules changed in the last couple of years and we are now restricted much more than before?

b)Has our income plummeted unexpectedly forcing us to change track?

c) Or have the owners simply decided they don't want to put more in?

Please explain which one of these you believe is the answer and why. 

JH, you know the reasons for this season budget cut in the wages budget. It has been explained to you several times but time after time you won't/can't accept it. 

The wage budget in the GB/JDT 1st season was the same and they were around 5 million transfer budget but this season at the start of the season, we had the same wage budget but any transfer funds had to be self generated by GB and JDT. Then during the Summer the Indian government tax authorities became a thing and Venkys had to reduce the money they could put into the club so the wage budget was cut by 20% and £4m had to generate to help the club. Each couple of months Venkys had to go their high court to apply for them to sent money over to fund the club for a couple of months

[sharpysharps86]

Just now, Hasta said:

No, Wharton is often deep collecting from the defence and turning. When the opposition break at us it Wharton is often the midfielder in position to break up or stop that attack and because he isn’t very good at it, it causes massive issues, as seen clearly yesterday at the Hawthorns.

We’d be far more solid defensively if we started with Garrett / Tronstadt instead of Wharton / Tronstadt, but then what do you do with your most valuable asset?

The formation and style of play with Wharton playing where he is contributes to us being defensively weak. We either need to play slightly differently, or drop AW.

Agree with this. No doubting his ability on the ball but a combo of Tronstad and Garrett seems to me like a much better combo at the moment.

If Wharton is to play then it must be further up the pitch. Relieve him of some of those defensive duties. Given Sammie plays pretty much as our furthest forward player 90% of the time, we may as well stick him up top with Adam in an ACM role.

[Hasta]

1 minute ago, simongarnerisgod said:

adam has`nt got a defensive bone in his whole being and is pretty much a passenger when he appears in deep positions  and we are under pressure,he needs to be pushed further forwards with us playing two holding midfielders,as it stands we are wide open most of the time

Which in our current formation we can’t do, as in that role you need to press hard (hence why no Dack) and Szmodics has made it his own.

[wilsdenrover]

1 minute ago, chaddyrovers said:

I have said who is responsible for Lewis O'Brien failed transfer and it ain't GB. 

JH, you know the reasons for this season budget cut in the wages budget. It has been explained to you several times but time after time you won't/can't accept it. 

The wage budget in the GB/JDT 1st season was the same and they were around 5 million transfer budget but this season at the start of the season, we had the same wage budget but any transfer funds had to be self generated by GB and JDT. Then during the Summer the Indian government tax authorities became a thing and Venkys had to reduce the money they could put into the club so the wage budget was cut by 20% and £4m had to generate to help the club. Each couple of months Venkys had to go their high court to apply for them to sent money over to fund the club for a couple of months

Why do you believe JDT when he says Travis asked to leave but you don’t believe GB when he says the O’Brien transfer was his fault?

[Hasta]

2 minutes ago, chaddyrovers said:

I have said who is responsible for Lewis O'Brien failed transfer and it ain't GB. 

In your opinion, which has no foundation and contradicts GB himself taking responsibility.

[chaddyrovers]

7 minutes ago, wilsdenrover said:

Why do you believe JDT when he says Travis asked to leave but you don’t believe GB when he says the O’Brien transfer was his fault?

GB took the blame publicly but behind the scenes he changed a number of things to make sure it won't happen again. He explained what he changed during the summer. 

The writing was on wall about Travis wanted to leave was there to see, not playing in midfielder, not starting games and doesn't fit how JDT wants to play. 

6 minutes ago, Hasta said:

In your opinion, which has no foundation and contradicts GB himself taking responsibility.

This is 12 months old and still going on about it. Move on. 

[Hasta]

5 minutes ago, chaddyrovers said:

This is 12 months old and still going on about it. Move on. 

I had moved on but I mentioned it replying to you, who brought it up 5 hours ago.

It has been explained to you several times why it was partly GBs fault but time after time you won't/can't accept it. 

Edited January 14 by Hasta

[wilsdenrover]

6 minutes ago, chaddyrovers said:

GB took the blame publicly but behind the scenes he changed a number of things to make sure it won't happen again. He explained what he changed during the summer. 

The writing was on wall about Travis wanted to leave was there to see, not playing in midfielder, not starting games and doesn't fit how JDT wants to play. 

This is 12 months old and still going on about it. Move on. 

GB said it’s his fault but you don’t believe him?

Why?

[simongarnerisgod]

17 minutes ago, Hasta said:

Which in our current formation we can’t do, as in that role you need to press hard (hence why no Dack) and Szmodics has made it his own.

id`e narrow the formation and play 4/4/1/1 with adam behind szmodics,we need to pass it quicker as well,it`s easy to defend when everything is in front of you