Premier League 22-23

[Waggy76]

10 hours ago, Oldgregg86 said:

Just when things couldn’t get any worse , City are in hot water and the red rats get bought out.

I can’t cope with another ten years of venky rovers, Burnley in the prem and united dominating English football. I think it would tip me over the edge 😩

Burnley won't be in the Premier league 10 years , it will be interesting to see where and when Kompany ...

[chaddyrovers]

39 minutes ago, rock steady said:

To make things worse, Azpilicueta got a traumatic brain injury from one of the worst getting volleyed in the head incidents I can remember seeing.

Lets hope he can make full recover and I send my best wishes to him and his family

[Armchair supporter supremo]

If the filthy billionaire Arabs buy man united then they really should just piss off and start their own billy big bollox league of wankers.

Edited February 19, 2023 by Armchair supporter supremo

[Wheelton Blue]

1 hour ago, Armchair supporter supremo said:

If the filthy billionaire Arabs buy man united tgen they really should just piss off and start their own billy big bollox league of wankers.

The Arabs and Ineos bids make a mockery of the theory spouted on here, that the Euro Super League won't happen, and as such foreign owners (Glazers & Liverpool) are looking to offload...

[Armchair supporter supremo]

Ive always sort of respected Man united, liverpool and Arsenal because they've built their enourmous clubs largely through decades of hard work, good management, success on the field and bringing through great home grown youth players, it's only in the past decade they've had to spend really big to keep up. Unlike wanky clubs like Man city, Chelsea... That would still be pretty average clubs if it wasn't for their insanely wealthy owners (I mean it wasn't that long ago city where related into division 1 themselves) 

Edited February 19, 2023 by Armchair supporter supremo

[chaddyrovers]

41 minutes ago, Wheelton Blue said:

The Arabs and Ineos bids make a mockery of the theory spouted on here, that the Euro Super League won't happen, and as such foreign owners (Glazers & Liverpool) are looking to offload...

The Euro Super League won't happen cos clubs have committed and signed a document to stay with the PL and given the backlash last time no new owner would try it again. 

Also the Euro Super League is needs for clubs like Real Madrid and Barcelona as they don't have private wealthy owner or the TV deals that we get over here. Other European teams didn't want it last time like Bayern, Dortmund or PSG. Fans don't want it either as the backlash was clear to see it last time

[Mashed Potatoes]

1 hour ago, Wheelton Blue said:

The Arabs and Ineos bids make a mockery of the theory spouted on here, that the Euro Super League won't happen, and as such foreign owners (Glazers & Liverpool) are looking to offload...

The Glazers and the Liverpool owners are Americans who wanted football to be structured on the US model of teamsports and are offloading now that the abandonment of the Euro Super League means that won't happen.

[Mattyblue]

‘But, but they signed a document!’

[ben_the_beast]

1 hour ago, chaddyrovers said:

The Euro Super League won't happen cos clubs have committed and signed a document to stay with the PL and given the backlash last time no new owner would try it again. 

Also the Euro Super League is needs for clubs like Real Madrid and Barcelona as they don't have private wealthy owner or the TV deals that we get over here. Other European teams didn't want it last time like Bayern, Dortmund or PSG. Fans don't want it either as the backlash was clear to see it last time

If the super league doesn't happen it's because all the English clubs are aware that the Premier League brings in far more money than any league in the world and they're aware that future TV deals will dwarf the insane amounts of money already washing around in the league. 

The longer they maintain the status quo the bigger the gap will become between all other clubs worldwide. Real, Barca and the rest are struggling to compete financially as it is. Fast forward another 5 - 10 years and the gap will be huge. The main pulling power clubs outside the EPL will have is history and you'll have midtable Premier League clubs able to offer better financial packages than historical super clubs. 

Through all this huge opposition to the Super League it's clear to me something needs to change. The English pyramid has been broken for a long time and we're now beginning to witness it on a European and Worldwide stage.

It really should be down to FIFA to resolve, but with them being just as money hungry as the clubs and leagues, that ship sailed long ago. It's nigh on impossible to level the playing fields once there is such a disparity. It needed pre-emptive action. As it stands their main concern seems to be maximising their own income through stupid ideas such as a world cup every 2 years. There doesn't seem to be the will there and if it was, I'm not sure legally there would even be a way.

Tbh the only thing I can see as a workable solution is actually having a super league. The part which wouldn't work would be they should not be part of their own domestic leagues and there would have to be some form of promotion/relegation. A closed shop would be boring. Essentially the system is already broken and fans being outraged really is missing the gulf which is widening year on year.

[simongarnerisgod]

west ham getting the runaround by spurs😅

be absolute mana from heaven if they get relegated,having conned a stadium and put the expense on  the taxpayer, flouted the rules in having two unregistered players while getting away with it and most probably bribing the officials  at that match at ewood it would be justice if they ended up in the championship while paying massive wages to not very good players(declan rice is bang average), mega bonus if leeds or/and everton went with them😂

[Exiled_Rover]

16 minutes ago, simongarnerisgod said:

west ham getting the runaround by spurs😅

be absolute mana from heaven if they get relegated,having conned a stadium and put the expense on  the taxpayer, flouted the rules in having two unregistered players while getting away with it and most probably bribing the officials  at that match at ewood it would be justice if they ended up in the championship while paying massive wages to not very good players(declan rice is bang average), mega bonus if leeds or/and everton went with them😂

I think the perennial 'best of the worst' also-ran club that is Everton will survive again. Leeds are in massive trouble though.

As Brentford seem to be establishing themselves as a stable PL side (shame) it's only right that a London club should get relegated.

[Wheelton Blue]

4 hours ago, chaddyrovers said:

The Euro Super League won't happen cos clubs have committed and signed a document to stay with the PL and given the backlash last time no new owner would try it again. 

Also the Euro Super League is needs for clubs like Real Madrid and Barcelona as they don't have private wealthy owner or the TV deals that we get over here. Other European teams didn't want it last time like Bayern, Dortmund or PSG. Fans don't want it either as the backlash was clear to see it last time

Whoever is instigating it is irrelevant.

As soon as the English and German clubs realise that they can earn oodles more money than they get from Sky et al through a Euro Super League and subsequent global TV rights, they'll be off like a shot.

Money talks, as in any walk of life.

Edited February 19, 2023 by Wheelton Blue

[Mashed Potatoes]

1 minute ago, Wheelton Blue said:

Whoever is instigating it is irrelevant.

As soon as the English and Germal clubs realise that they can earn oodles more money than they get from Sky et al through a Euro Super League and subsequent global TV rights, they'll be off like a shot.

Money talks, as in any walk of life.

The German clubs are effectively run by the fans due to the 50% + 1 ownership rule; so they won't agree to it. The English clubs won't agree to it because it is not necessarily the case that they will earn more money, the government will oppose it and once the "golden share" rule is introduced supporters will be able to veto it.

[Wheelton Blue]

2 minutes ago, Mashed Potatoes said:

The German clubs are effectively run by the fans due to the 50% + 1 ownership rule; so they won't agree to it. The English clubs won't agree to it because it is not necessarily the case that they will earn more money, the government will oppose it and once the "golden share" rule is introduced supporters will be able to veto it.

I hope that you're right.

But as I said, in any walk off life, money talks. How do you think Qatar got the world cup?

[chaddyrovers]

1 hour ago, Wheelton Blue said:

Whoever is instigating it is irrelevant.

As soon as the English and German clubs realise that they can earn oodles more money than they get from Sky et al through a Euro Super League and subsequent global TV rights, they'll be off like a shot.

Money talks, as in any walk of life.

Of course it matters who is instigating cos they need more money than ever just to complete with English teams for transfers. English teams have a great global TV deal already and wealthy owners which these 2 Spanish clubs don't have. 

Mashed Potatoes has explained why German teams won't join and when the UK government introduce the new football laws UK teams won't be able to join without the fans voting for it and then take into account the current agreements between PL owners and PL about not joining the Euro Super League. 

1 hour ago, Mashed Potatoes said:

The German clubs are effectively run by the fans due to the 50% + 1 ownership rule; so they won't agree to it. The English clubs won't agree to it because it is not necessarily the case that they will earn more money, the government will oppose it and once the "golden share" rule is introduced supporters will be able to veto it.

Great points

1 hour ago, Wheelton Blue said:

I hope that you're right.

But as I said, in any walk off life, money talks. How do you think Qatar got the world cup?

But that's the World Cup and Fifa. Nothing to do with Euro Super League but if you look at how this came out it with condemnation very quickly by Football authorities around Europe, Football fans including fans from those teams, media and pundits plus Governments from Europe. Glazers and FSG are looking to sell cos they know that this Euro Super League is dead in the water and they will never get a better financial position for either club to be sold.  

Edited February 19, 2023 by chaddyrovers

[Wheelton Blue]

14 minutes ago, chaddyrovers said:

Of course it matters who is instigating cos they need more money than ever just to complete with English teams for transfers. English teams have a great global TV deal already and wealthy owners which these 2 Spanish clubs don't have. 

Mashed Potatoes has explained why German teams won't join and when the UK government introduce the new football laws UK teams won't be able to join without the fans voting for it and then take into account the current agreements between PL owners and PL about not joining the Euro Super League. 

Great points

But that's the World Cup and Fifa. Nothing to do with Euro Super League but if you look at how this came out it with condemnation very quickly by Football authorities around Europe, Football fans including fans from those teams, media and pundits plus Governments from Europe. Glazers and FSG are looking to sell cos they know that this Euro Super League is dead in the water and they will never get a better financial position for either club to be sold.  

Why are Ineos et al looking to buy Utd for billions then? To lose money?

[Mashed Potatoes]

18 minutes ago, Wheelton Blue said:

Why are Ineos et al looking to buy Utd for billions then? To lose money?

Qatar are looking to buy it as an exercise in "sportswashing". The other potential buyers will be looking to make money but the international appeal of United is so great that they don't need to be in a European Super League to achieve that.

[Mattyblue]

It won’t happen any time soon because the PL is a money making behemoth.

However, if in 10/15 years that has changed and Premier League TV revenues have declined, then of course they’ll look at it again, and some ‘signed document’ from 2021 won’t matter one jot.

[chaddyrovers]

31 minutes ago, Wheelton Blue said:

Why are Ineos et al looking to buy Utd for billions then? To lose money?

firstly Jim Ratcliffe is a Manchester United fan and is from the North West. He wouldn't lose billions tho cos the Global united brand, The current and future tv Premier league rights plus better sponsorship. 

 

[Wheelton Blue]

Reminder to self. Don't forget BRFCS rule #1. 

[Ossydave]

Hopefully the current bottom 3 get relegated, purely selfish reasons of me enjoying all 3 as away days. No doubt Bournemouth will come down though 🥱

[Tyrone Shoelaces]

19 hours ago, Mattyblue said:

‘But, but they signed a document!’

Said Neville Chamberlain.

[chaddyrovers]

Leeds closing in Javi Garcia as new head coach there

 

 

[chaddyrovers]

 

here @Wheelton Bluewhat I was saying about the Government taking actions to prevents British clubs leaving for a European Super League. 

[Darrenbot]

Exciting stuff in the Prem today

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