World Cup 2022

[matt83]

Not sure I can stomach another round of an ode to messi from the commentary box. Its nauseating 

[AllRoverAsia]

5 minutes ago, matt83 said:

Not sure I can stomach another round of an ode to messi from the commentary box. Its nauseating 

Not one of them tells the truth that he walks around the pitch like an OAP who's lost his Zimmer Frame.

[DE.]

16 minutes ago, AllRoverAsia said:

I cannot understand why the Dutch didn't stay with what worked and play it long to the Dingle. Really stupid by the fool van Whathisname.

They quite literally played about 17 of the 120 minutes, and that was good old route one football. The rest of the match, including extra time, they did absolutely nothing. No clear game plan, no chances created, no tempo, no tackling (unless you count repeated fouls, in which case sure), nada. They made Spain look exciting in comparison. 

Edited December 9, 2022 by DE.

[superniko]

Look at the little shithouses. They can’t even embrace elation without being little sad acts. 

[G Somerset Rover]

27 minutes ago, AllRoverAsia said:

Not one of them tells the truth that he walks around the pitch like an OAP who's lost his Zimmer Frame.

He’s done that his whole career; it’s not a new thing. Not stopped him has it.

Edited December 9, 2022 by Gavlar Somerset Rover!

[roverandout]

I said last week that Brazil are nothing special. The days of Ronaldo rivaldo' etc are history. They Just don't have any really special players anymore 

[jim mk2]

That photo shows why no one should support the likes of Argentina. Van Gaal has questions to answer about that poor Dutch performance - why did they only start playing when they went 2-0 down and then retreat back into their shells in extra time? Hopefully Croatia will wipe the smiles off those scumbag Argentinian faces, Messi included

[roverandout]

England has to take this chance. We will never ever get an opportunity like this again. No Germany no Brazil no Italy no Spain potentially no France. There's no chance Brazil Spain Germany Italy will be this bad again. We have a golden opportunity to win it as I don't think if we can get past France there are any teams to fear.  

[AllRoverAsia]

43 minutes ago, jim mk2 said:

That photo shows why no one should support the likes of Argentina. Van Gaal has questions to answer about that poor Dutch performance - why did they only start playing when they went 2-0 down and then retreat back into their shells in extra time? Hopefully Croatia will wipe the smiles off those scumbag Argentinian faces, Messi included

Messi referred that game, it was pathetic to watch the Spaniard kissing Messi's arse. He blinked, he got a foul.

[ben_the_beast]

The Messi dislike on here is mad. How much some try to downplay his ability is just confusing. Yes he walks around but literally every move Argentina make of any quality comes through him. He is absolutely carrying an extremely average team through this world cup.

His assist for the first was one of the best assists I've ever seen. Forget about a player hitting a peach of a pass with the outside of their boot when they've got all the time in the world. He saw the run of the full back a full couple of seconds prior to playing it and calculated where he'd be at the time he made the pass. He'd just dribbled past a couple of players, was under pressure and it was a no-look pass. 

He won them the game... again. Someone said he's got his zimmer frame out. 100% true, yet he's still winning games for the Argies all by himself. Statistically he's one behind Mbappe for goal involvements and has created 16 chances so far this world cup, the most of any player in the tournament. Messi haters simple do not know football. Ronaldo is not and never has been fit to lace Messi's boots. 

One other point, Messi was part of the great Guardiola Barca team who were famous for buzzing around their opponents like a swarm of bees as soon as they lost the ball. He's old now. He can't do that any more. But this old dude who's legs have gone is still single handedly winning games with repeated moments of magic, even with his zimmer frame.

[roverandout]

42 minutes ago, ben_the_beast said:

The Messi dislike on here is mad. How much some try to downplay his ability is just confusing. Yes he walks around but literally every move Argentina make of any quality comes through him. He is absolutely carrying an extremely average team through this world cup.

His assist for the first was one of the best assists I've ever seen. Forget about a player hitting a peach of a pass with the outside of their boot when they've got all the time in the world. He saw the run of the full back a full couple of seconds prior to playing it and calculated where he'd be at the time he made the pass. He'd just dribbled past a couple of players, was under pressure and it was a no-look pass. 

He won them the game... again. Someone said he's got his zimmer frame out. 100% true, yet he's still winning games for the Argies all by himself. Statistically he's one behind Mbappe for goal involvements and has created 16 chances so far this world cup, the most of any player in the tournament. Messi haters simple do not know football. Ronaldo is not and never has been fit to lace Messi's boots. 

One other point, Messi was part of the great Guardiola Barca team who were famous for buzzing around their opponents like a swarm of bees as soon as they lost the ball. He's old now. He can't do that any more. But this old dude who's legs have gone is still single handedly winning games with repeated moments of magic, even with his zimmer frame.

I don't hate messi. Hes been an incredible player I just don’t like Argentina.  They're so overhyped.  They're the epitome of a one man team 

[Silas]

 

Google translate is even struggling with this, (probably colloquial slang),  but basically- 'Only one of these attitudes deserves applause' 👏 👏

[matt83]

It boils my piss when they ask Rio Ferdinand, Neville, Gerrard, Lampard about their perspective on what the players will feel like. This was a golden generation of players, who should have won it, but subsequently admitted couldn’t give a toss about England and could really put club rivalries aside in the dressing room.
 

“How would they be feeling right now Rio?” “well if they’re anything like me they’d prefer to be sat in Carrington.”

[AllRoverAsia]

7 minutes ago, matt83 said:

It boils my piss when they ask Rio Ferdinand, Neville, Gerrard, Lampard about their perspective on what the players will feel like. This was a golden generation of players, who should have won it, but subsequently admitted couldn’t give a toss about England and could really put club rivalries aside in the dressing room.
 

“How would they be feeling right now Rio?” “well if they’re anything like me they’d prefer to be sat in Carrington.”

Ferdinand has never been the brightest bulb on the Christmas Tree.

[AllRoverAsia]

Carragher ....... a constant reminder of how much I like Lucas Neil.

[arbitro]

10 hours ago, AllRoverAsia said:

I cannot understand why the Dutch didn't stay with what worked and play it long to the Dingle. Really stupid by the fool van Whathisname.

Another manager being too smart for his own good. The Argentines were rattled and couldn't handle the big Dutchmen and long balls so what does the manager do? He goes back to the Dutch Disease football of inane, pointless passing and hands the initiative back to Argentina.

You reap what you sow sometimes.

[Mashed Potatoes]

10 hours ago, AllRoverAsia said:

Not one of them tells the truth that he walks around the pitch like an OAP who's lost his Zimmer Frame.

He's always walked around the pitch because he finds space that way - then he puts on the turbo chargers with the ball at his feet. One of the 2 or 3 greatest players of all time.

[AllRoverAsia]

18 minutes ago, Mashed Potatoes said:

He's always walked around the pitch because he finds space that way - then he puts on the turbo chargers with the ball at his feet. One of the 2 or 3 greatest players of all time.

Leave him in space and unmarked, which the Dutch did, and he's a danger even at walking pace with turbo long gone.

[AllRoverAsia]

17 yellows and a late red given by a ref who booked a Dutch player who was run into by Messi who them fell over crying and holding his face.

There were 12 Spanish speaking mates onfield at any given time.

Bent as a nine bob note.

Edited December 10, 2022 by AllRoverAsia

[G Somerset Rover]

2 minutes ago, AllRoverAsia said:

17 yellows and a late red given by a ref who booked a Dutch player who was run into by Messi who them fell over crying and holding his face.

There were 12 Spanish speaking mates onfield at any given time.

Bent as a nine bob note.

He was absolutely terrible in equal measure for both sides.

[OldEwoodBlue]

Will Southgate go if we lose ?

[AllRoverAsia]

2 minutes ago, Gavlar Somerset Rover! said:

He was absolutely terrible in equal measure for both sides.

No. He was against the Dutch. He did give a lot of yellows against the Animals but at least 3 should have been red.

He was biased.

 

[chaddyrovers]

11 minutes ago, OldEwoodBlue said:

Will Southgate go if we lose ?

It's been reported that FA want Southgate to stay on. I think Southgate regardless of tonight results. He has proven his worth to the team and should stay on until the World cup 2026 in USA, Canada and Mexico. 

[matt83]

I think an interesting question would be if Southgate leaves (he won’t do) would any top half premier league team take a punt of him. 

[chaddyrovers]

16 minutes ago, matt83 said:

I think an interesting question would be if Southgate leaves (he won’t do) would any top half premier league team take a punt of him. 

I think Spurs might do if Conte leaves at the season if he doesn't get backing he wants. 

If Southgate does leave I think he will decide himself. The FA want him to stay on and so do I.