v The Dingles (a) - 13/11/2022

[Mashed Potatoes]

1 minute ago, SIMON GARNERS 194 said:

We may well be in a false position if today and quite a few away performances are a guage!!

Again,your point about our .anagers 'track record' for me is a mute one.

But you were saying that it was results that mattered !

[davulsukur]

53 minutes ago, J*B said:

Because he’s faster than Wharton, according to JDT. Absolutely nonsense. He may well be quicker but you can’t play one game in 8 months and walk into a game like that. 

He didn't look very quick when he was being constantly rinsed by Dingle attackers.

[Boroblue]

16 minutes ago, pick32 said:

Couldn’t care we’re we are in the league, this manager doesn’t represent this club , to drop two Blackburn lads for Mola and Garrett is laughable. Do you think Ashley Barnes would of seen a ball against Wharton!! Sack him now!! Start again in. January. They aren’t fit to represent this town league position means 

DO NOT FORGET THIS BECAUSE OF THE SHAM OF THE WORLD CUP. BOO EVERYMAN ON THE RETURN TO EWOOD

That’s funny in the context of I’ve been so angry since the game I’m apparently spoiling sunday tea. My daughter offered to drive me to ewood to vent my feelings when the team returned.

im currently sat outside with my coat on

[Armchair supporter supremo]

 

I think Tomasson defintely needs another quality experienced coach on his team, someone that can give him the right advice on days like these instead of him just being surounded by yes men and bag carriers. 

 

There's still a fair bit of deadwood at the club from the mowbray era that needs to be got rid of

[arbitro]

Losing 3-0 to bigger rivals really hurts compounded by the way we played. In truth 3-0 flatters us and it could have been five. But what hurts me even more is Tomassons comment that he feels sorry for us, the fans. He hasn't a f***ing clue how we feel right now. The condescending, arrogant, patronising dick. I would have preferred him to come out and accept some of the blame for selection and tactics. But nothing apart from feeling sorry for us. For f*** sake the very least we can expect is to match their energy but we didn't do that. We played right into their hands with the inane passing across the back invariably going backwards with each pass. After watching them concede five last week we knew their real weakness. How many corners, free kicks and crosses putoot their keeper and defenders under pressure. None I reckon. Right now Tomasson can shove his over playing, easy to play against shite. He should remember and be reminded of what he said in his first interview. DUTCH DISEASE. And he doesn't look like he has a antidote for this particular disease.

[Mattyblue]

3 minutes ago, 1864roverite said:

In the olden days mb they were fans who knew how to look after themselves, were not coke heads and who would at least watch the game whilst it was being played!

Behave!  😀

In the 70s and 80s there were running battles inside and outside the ground. 

You don’t half talk some tripe.
 

[Waggy76]

8 minutes ago, Mashed Potatoes said:

JDT has won 2 national titles prior to his appointment as our manager - so I don't understand how his appointment can be part of an agenda not to get promotion.

  9 losses and its not December , some of the worst football , I have witnessed away  (albeit on Sky )from  home  in 53 years of watching .....

Today was not a one off  

[Tyrone Shoelaces]

Just now, Boroblue said:

That’s funny in the context of I’ve been so angry since the game I’m apparently spoiling sunday tea. My daughter offered to drive me to ewood to vent my feelings when the team returned.

im currently sat outside with my coat on

Yeah, “ disappointed “ is when you accidentally put too much salt on your chips. Or your dog accidentally knocks over your cup of tea. Today wasn’t “ disappointing “, it was off the scale.

[pick32]

What a snow flake society we live in, that’s the reason this derby was awful, Was Ashley Barnes the only one to get the memo?

[booth]

1 minute ago, Armchair supporter supremo said:

I think Tomasson defintely needs another quality experienced coach on his team, someone that can give him the right advice on days like these instead of him just being surounded by yes men and bag carriers.

There's still a fair bit of deadwood at the club from the mowbray era that needs to be got rid of

Makes you wonder what the coaches left behind by Mowbray say to him, but he has his own eyes and should know which players he can and can't rely on.

[Mashed Potatoes]

1 minute ago, Waggy76 said:

  9 losses and its not December , some of the worst football , I have witnessed away  (albeit on Sky )from  home  in 53 years of watching .....

Today was not a one off  

We are 1 place off automatic promotion ! That is not part of an "agenda" not to get promoted.

[BankEnd Rover]

Was there any trouble at the game? 

[Waggy76]

12 minutes ago, Mashed Potatoes said:

Our results have us 3rd in the league !

See what Christmas and the New Year  brings ..

[Tyrone Shoelaces]

Just now, BankEnd Rover said:

Was there any trouble at the game? 

None on the pitch.

[SIMON GARNERS 194]

6 minutes ago, Mashed Potatoes said:

But you were saying that it was results that mattered !

Yes and today doesnt help does it!...seen it once too often already.

[JohnD]

7 minutes ago, arbitro said:

Losing 3-0 to bigger rivals really hurts compounded by the way we played. In truth 3-0 flatters us and it could have been five. But what hurts me even more is Tomassons comment that he feels sorry for us, the fans. He hasn't a f***ing clue how we feel right now. The condescending, arrogant, patronising dick. I would have preferred him to come out and accept some of the blame for selection and tactics. But nothing apart from feeling sorry for us. For f*** sake the very least we can expect is to match their energy but we didn't do that. We played right into their hands with the inane passing across the back invariably going backwards with each pass. After watching them concede five last week we knew their real weakness. How many corners, free kicks and crosses putoot their keeper and defenders under pressure. None I reckon. Right now Tomasson can shove his over playing, easy to play against shite. He should remember and be reminded of what he said in his first interview. DUTCH DISEASE. And he doesn't look like he has a antidote for this particular disease.

THIS, spot on 👋🍺

[tomphil]

3 minutes ago, Armchair supporter supremo said:

 

I think Tomasson defintely needs another quality experienced coach on his team, someone that can give him the right advice on days like these instead of him just being surounded by yes men and bag carriers. 

 

There's still a fair bit of deadwood at the club from the mowbray era that needs to be got rid of

This.

Whoever is coaching that nonsense at the back needs firing into orbit even the tv pundits can't make any sense of it. Today its cost goals us again for the fourth or fifth time away from home this season.

Pathetic and being 3rd in the league still doesn't cover for it because we look odds on to fall off a cliff again soon like last season. Once everyone has it sussed even the poorer sides will make us pay like they have frequently anyway.

[Exiled_Rover]

1 minute ago, Mashed Potatoes said:

We are 1 place off automatic promotion ! That is not part of an "agenda" not to get promoted.

I'd stop bothering, to be honest. 

Pre-JDT's appointment in the summer (that 5 week black hole where the club stood still and let 12 players walk out the door whilst all their rivals were busy signing players) many of us thought this squad would be mired in a relegation battle. A few shrewd permanent signings, a decent loanee and several Acdemy players breaking through have papered over the cracks of what is still a very average squad. 

JDT is performing miracles, but for some reason people think we should be pushing for automatic promotion whilst playing cavalier football. You can't reason with them I'm afraid. 

[tomphil]

6 minutes ago, BankEnd Rover said:

Was there any trouble at the game? 

Only in our own box.

[G Somerset Rover]

Any news on if Adam Wharton was injured, or being saved for some youth competition? I really hope it’s the former, but I wouldn’t be surprised with Tomasson in charge if it were the latter.

[Exiled_Rover]

7 minutes ago, booth said:

Makes you wonder what the coaches left behind by Mowbray say to him, but he has his own eyes and should know which players he can and can't rely on.

I wonder how long JDT has to deal with the likes of Low, Benson et al. I know they were part of the package deal when he was appointed, but I'm sure he's sat in Broughton's office during the last five months and said "C'mon, Gregg, sort it out, they're useless". 

[Proudtobeblue&white]

1 minute ago, Gavlar Somerset Rover! said:

Any news on if Adam Wharton was injured, or being saved for some youth competition? I really hope it’s the former, but I wouldn’t be surprised with Tomasson in charge if it were the latter.

He was fit to play.

[smiller14]

16 minutes ago, 1864roverite said:

In the olden days mb they were fans who knew how to look after themselves, were not coke heads and who would at least watch the game whilst it was being played!

What about the other 2,250 fans who supported the team, didn’t act the bellend and were rewarded with utter dross?

[booth]

Imagine if we didn't piss about with it at the back and had signed a decent striker in Summer.

I noticed Waggott was slumped in his seat during the match, looking as emotionless as ever.

[ben_the_beast]

1. Mola for Scott Wharton - many expressed their concern before the game and turned out to be right. Those saying they thought Mola played well first half I'm sure are basing it on the one crunching tackle he made. Positionally he was all at sea.

2. Garrett and Travis - They don't have a pass between them. We were always going to struggle to retain possession so you need someone who can pick a killer ball through ball in an instant and hit them on the counter. 

3. Playing out from the back - similar to the second point. Without A. Wharton we aren't keeping the ball. We have 2 big strikers. If you only have battlers in midfield go long and rush to get the second ball. 

3.1 Players have different skill sets - if you want to play out from the back you have to play the players capable. If you want to change the personell you have to change the philosophy/style.

4. Outside the obvious players who didn't fit the philosophy:

- Morton who I think is a good player has been off the boil for a while now

- Ayala for someone who is supposedly old school was bullied by Barnes

- Brereton-Diaz. As good as he is coming in off the left he's begun to play wider and wider this season. If we've got 2 up top I'm certain getting him slightly more central and closer to Gallagher would benefit the team.

All the above seems pretty obvious to me. And is pretty damning on JDT. No calling for his head etc on my part. We're third which is brilliant. But I do think it's based on a lot of luck at the moment. So many games have been such fine margins when we've won, but abject when we've lost. To his credit he can set up a team defensively, but if he's going to succeed there needs to be a big turnover of players. Ones who are comfortable on the ball. They aren't cheap which means recruitment wise we'll need some real unpolished diamonds.