v Norwich City (a) - FAC3 - 8/1/23, 2pm

[roverandout]

I suspect Travis looked good back then because the midfielders around him weren't up to much.  But players like garrett morton and Wharton have shown up his shortcomings.  ie technical ability.  Passing ability work rate 

[Beanie01289]

Just now, Bohinen1983 said:

How was Markanday today? Who got person of the match?

Was busy looked decent. I'd be shocked if it was not Hyam

[had.e.nuff]

i had forgotten that you can play more than 1 game in the fa cup

 

[bluebruce]

10 minutes ago, DE. said:

A couple. Pears was very good today, deserves credit for his part in keeping a clean sheet.

Or 'Peers' as the commentator annoyingly kept calling him.

[Guest]

Just now, Bohinen1983 said:

How was Markanday today?

Spritely. He needs game time to get momentum. I'm not sure he'll get that here this season.

[bluebruce]

7 minutes ago, BlackburnEnd75 said:

I don't think JDT gets enough credit for how well organised he's got us defensively. 

Previously under Mowbray we could only be defensively sound by sticking men behind the ball and playing 5 at the back. 

True, the only thing we do poor defensively is suicidally pass it around at the back in dangerous situations. Other than that we've become solid.

Hyam has a lot to do with it though.

Edited January 8, 2023 by bluebruce

[Cherry Blue]

10 minutes ago, BigBar said:

Is that how it works? I made a rookie mistake and booked to come over the weekend of the 27th January...flights and hotel booked. No game be a sickener.

Hmm. Accy could be playing Leeds in Accy which if it happens, plus TV, might have a say if we get pushed back to another Sunday game.

[bluebruce]

8 minutes ago, AllRoverAsia said:

Dack is back and looking the slimest he has ever been in a Rovers shirt.

Took me a second to figure out what you meant here, for a moment I thought you meant he was looking the slimiest he has ever been in a Rovers shirt.

[Ricky]

3 hours ago, J*B said:

9 out of 11, not bad. Excited to see Leonard. 

How did Leonard do?

[R0verb0y]

31 minutes ago, Crozzy said:

Forest Green or Birmingham coming to Ewood next round 

That sounds like a winnable tie. Prefer F.G.R., obvs.

[Hasta]

18 minutes ago, BigBar said:

Is that how it works? I made a rookie mistake and booked to come over the weekend of the 27th January...flights and hotel booked. No game be a sickener.

As they haven’t played the original tie due to a waterlogged pitch, I presume that will be played when the replays are played w/c16th.  Therefore if they draw then their replay could possibly be 27th.

[superniko]

38 minutes ago, neophox said:

Think its about keeping Wharton cool....he had a good game at Blackpool but hasnt impressed after that game...think he needs to dig in.....just like Dack, Buckley and Garrett has done recently... he will get his chance.

Absolute nonsense, everyone said the same about Dack. 
He’s played 340 league minutes since Blackpool, across about 20 games. Morton has played over 1500 minutes in the same period. 
He might not have impressed (he did score against Birmingham), but if that’s your opinion it’s because he hasn’t been given a chance to 

[Hasta]

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[roversfan99]

Well played Tomasson, lots on here showed total disregard to the cup and seemingly would prefer us out, suggesting totally changed sides, the correct approach was a bit of rotation amongst a strong side and that got us the win.

The 2 stand outs were Hyam and Phillips who were both excellent in defence, the full backs were very steady and Pears was surprisingly reliable. When we concede we often become ragged but we certainly look very well drilled much of the time.

Dack again was our best attacking player and not only does he have the ability but he seems to be right up to full fitness, great energy levels.

Definitely need an improvement in midfield, Garrett and Travis work hard but again we struggle to keep the ball as neither are good technically.

We do need one or two in attack too and we need more of a plan, Markanday flitted in and out but definitely has something about him, great dribbling ability and put in a shift. Vale needs a loan spell, not ready yet for a promotion challenge but as good today as he ever has been, got on the score sheet and a few nice touches although in the second half in particular he couldn't hold it up. Brereton needs a goal and should have had one at the end of the first half.

Rubbish reward mind with the boring draw but hopefully we can get through to the 5th round.

[Exiled_Rover]

11 minutes ago, goozburger said:

Spritely. He needs game time to get momentum. I'm not sure he'll get that here this season.

We're hardly flooded with options upfront. If we don't bring anyone in during this window he'll get game time.

There's clearly a player in there. 

[Exiled_Rover]

8 minutes ago, Ricky said:

How did Leonard do?

He didn't get on - JDT brought on Hedges for Vale as we were hanging on at the end. 

[only2garners]

15 minutes ago, Bohinen1983 said:

I don't think Wharton looks anything special. The fact he's lauded as our best CM shows how urgently we need reinforcements in that area.  He should be around the bench coming on making cameos cutting his teeth aiding his development. But I think he has a long way to go.  Look forward to seeing his progress but I'm not getting excited.  Seen Duff and Dunn come through the ranks and he's not in that bracket at the moment. 

I am also bemused by the constant theme from posters on here that Wharton is our most gifted midfielder and should be starting every game. I can only assume that people are willing it to be so because he's a Blackburn lad and a Rovers fan. It certainly can't be based on a number of outstanding performances because as yet there haven't been.

There was an outstanding debut at Blackpool and one or two brief cameos where he showed some promise, There have been at least two games where he has been taken off at half time, a league game (?) and at West Ham. In the latter he was replaced by Garrett who clearly outperformed him and has gone on to give some more excellent performances (MOM against Cardiff). Disclaimer: I didn't see today's game so don't know how he played but the fact that all the negative comment was about Travis and he played the full 90 suggests he did at least OK.

Garrett is just simply ahead of Wharton at the moment. It doesn't mean that Wharton won't come good in time and go on to have an outstanding career. But he could throw it all away if he is believing the hype and not getting his head down.

[lraC]

24 minutes ago, Bohinen1983 said:

I don't think Wharton looks anything special. The fact he's lauded as our best CM shows how urgently we need reinforcements in that area.  He should be around the bench coming on making cameos cutting his teeth aiding his development. But I think he has a long way to go.  Look forward to seeing his progress but I'm not getting excited.  Seen Duff and Dunn come through the ranks and he's not in that bracket at the moment. 

Each to their own, but I see a star in the making. He looks very special to me. His one goal so far was very classy and his debut was awesome. 

[roversfan99]

I think there is probably a middle ground between Wharton being seemingly quite a bit away from the team at the moment to the point where he often misses out on matchday squads and him playing every week. 

He did also have very good games v Birmingham, Boro and Hull.

I also find the idea that he is not training properly or questions about his attitude to be very presumptuous.

[LDRover]

Great win that and although we had to defend I never felt like we would concede.

Good performances from Pears, Markanday and Hyam who is some signing. However, Dack once again showed how good a footballer he is, was at the heart of all our good work and is key to any success we may have this season.

[chaddyrovers]

Well done to Rovers and JDT. Pleased we beat Wagner's Norwich team

listened to bits of the game on radio Lancs. We sounded defensively solid and pleased Vale scored. Good finish by him. Looking forward to watching the game back on Rovers TV tomorrow. 

Disappointed to not draw a PL team at home like Leicester or Southampton

[Sweaty Gussets]

Huge credit to JDT for changing the culture at the club - we'd have lost that under Mowbray. 

As others have said JDT deserves plaudits for instilling a resoluteness in the team that just wasn't there before he arrived. People wrongly refer to it as 'hanging on', it isn't. The work they were doing on the 'low block' was referred to in the summer, they are now skilled and comfortable at defending their box. It's tactical and has served team well 95% of the time when we've gone ahead. 

JDT now needs to improve the performance at the other end of the pitch when teams sit deep against us. Mowbray couldn't do it, hopefully JDT can. 

His man-management is excellent too. He held Dack back when he was champing at the bit and he's now reaping the rewards. He did the same with Buckley, dropped him for months until he could trust him to play the right way. Adam Wharton will hopefully take note. 

Pleased for Vale. IMO he's a natural goal scorer, they are hard to find. 

Great result today. First FA cup tie win since 2017. A non-Prem team could go a long way in the cup this year. Hopefully it's us. 

Up the Rovers!

 

[superniko]

Just now, chaddyrovers said:

Well done to Rovers and JDT. Pleased we beat Wagner's Norwich team

listened to bits of the game on radio Lancs. We sounded defensively solid and pleased Vale scored. Good finish by him. Looking forward to watching the game back on Rovers TV tomorrow. 

Disappointed to not draw a PL team at home like Leicester or Southampton

Why the bollocks would you want to draw Leicester or Southampton? 
Less likely to progress, hardly a ‘big’ club to draw any attention, wouldn’t draw in home fans and wouldn’t shift loads of away tickets (£) like an actual big club. 

[roversfan99]

3 minutes ago, chaddyrovers said:

Well done to Rovers and JDT. Pleased we beat Wagner's Norwich team

listened to bits of the game on radio Lancs. We sounded defensively solid and pleased Vale scored. Good finish by him. Looking forward to watching the game back on Rovers TV tomorrow. 

Disappointed to not draw a PL team at home like Leicester or Southampton

Are you/were you not frustrated that Tomasson went fairly strong and played the likes of Hyam, Brereton, Dack and in particular a player you mentioned in Pickering when you were adamant that they needed a total rest?

And why would you specifically want those 2 at home?!

[AllRoverAsia]

30 minutes ago, bluebruce said:

Took me a second to figure out what you meant here, for a moment I thought you meant he was looking the slimiest he has ever been in a Rovers shirt.

I meant slimmest. I actually edited to a single 'm' against the advice of my spellchecker. FKY.