Appeal to EFL

[yankfan]

The fact the efl are reportedly waiting until the end of the month to submit their case just goes to show how little they care about career of players. The one who loses the most by delaying is O’Brian. 

[RoryRoversIreland]

Does anyone have an idea of who the people are in the EFL that rejected the registrations? 

[had.e.nuff]

On 21/02/2023 at 06:14, yellowsubmarine said:

Since it's getting nowhere. So i decided to dream abit positively – what if our appeal is successful by 1 March.

1 March
- officially on loan with us.

By 15 March (misses Sheff Utd and Stoke's games)
- lacking match fitness, learning how we play during first team training, probably playing some U21 games during this period.

By 30 March
– Somewhat fitter, on bench for both Reading and Burnley's games.

1 April onwards
– Fully match fit and ready. He will have 8 full league games and also a few playoff games if we made it into Top 6.

 

more like after the sixth appeal hearing blackburn given permission to sign 60 year old Lewis O'Brien

[roverandout]

I see no point in carrying on with this now. There's 13 games left. We should just move on

[Andy]

I wouldn't agree with that.

The lad is top quality (in this division) and would be a real difference maker.

And, at this stage of the season - with Play Offs a real possibility - that's exactly what we need.

[roverandout]

11 minutes ago, Andy said:

I wouldn't agree with that.

The lad is top quality (in this division) and would be a real difference maker.

And, at this stage of the season - with Play Offs a real possibility - that's exactly what we need.

But hopefully Wharton comes back. He has all the qualities that O'brien has

[Mike E]

57 minutes ago, roverandout said:

I see no point in carrying on with this now. There's 13 games left. We should just move on

Disagree. I'd want to see it to its full conclusion if there's a chance to show the EFL for the unfit organisation it is.

[Bbrovers2288]

I’m over this now

[DavidMailsTightPerm]

9 hours ago, roverandout said:

But hopefully Wharton comes back. He has all the qualities that O'brien has

In the first team - Wharton had an unbelievable match against Blackpool followed by ok or even poor performances. O'Brien did it consistently for Huddersfield over a season. Not saying Wharton can't be that player - but IMO hasn't done it consistently yet.

[superniko]

2 hours ago, DavidMailsTightPerm said:

In the first team - Wharton had an unbelievable match against Blackpool followed by ok or even poor performances. O'Brien did it consistently for Huddersfield over a season. Not saying Wharton can't be that player - but IMO hasn't done it consistently yet.

Looked good against Birmingham too (goal) and Hull (lovely assist)....he has only started 6 league games this season and that's half of them listed where he's been one of the best players on the pitch, so pretty hard to find consistency with so few starts, but he has looked better than everyone else we've been served up in CM this year based on those 6 matches alone (Bristol City the only real stinker).

For me, it's a simple solution, play the two of them together! O'Brien and Wharton in the centre.

(All hypothetical as there is absolutely no chance we end up getting O'Brien)

[Guest]

For those saying "it's not worth it, now" - nonsense. I'd much rather have an extra player with the quality of O'Brien available for the final ten games or so than not. The minutia behind the financials could be irrelevant compared to the reward on the table.

If you're mentally fatigued by it all, put it out of mind and consider how well we've done recently when we might have expected otherwise. The club has clearly made errors, and in spite of my grievances towards them, Tomasson could still be backed with a quality player if things go our way.

[chaddyrovers]

12 hours ago, roverandout said:

But hopefully Wharton comes back. He has all the qualities that O'brien has

Adam Wharton is currently injured 

O'Brien is a quality player. Getting him would help improve our playoffs chances 

[J*B]

35 minutes ago, chaddyrovers said:

Adam Wharton is currently injured 

O'Brien is a quality player. Getting him would help improve our playoffs chances 

He’s back fit now, training this week. 

[Exiled_Rover]

1 hour ago, J*B said:

He’s back fit now, training this week. 

At this point I'd just like to stick with what we have and move the money to next season: start Buckley and Travis (difficult to break them up after recent performances), rotate in Garrett and A. Wharton - one of them should be getting at least 20 minutes a match. Morton can sit on the bench.

If O'Brien was the best striker in the Championship then I'd continue to pursue this arbitration as that would make a massive difference. As it is we're possibly going to sneak into the Playoffs, but we aren't winning them with our without O'Brien. 

[Sweaty Gussets]

13 minutes ago, Exiled_Rover said:

At this point I'd just like to stick with what we have and move the money to next season: start Buckley and Travis (difficult to break them up after recent performances), rotate in Garrett and A. Wharton - one of them should be getting at least 20 minutes a match. Morton can sit on the bench.

If O'Brien was the best striker in the Championship then I'd continue to pursue this arbitration as that would make a massive difference. As it is we're possibly going to sneak into the Playoffs, but we aren't winning them with our without O'Brien. 

Luton over a 2 leg semi, and then MIllwall in the final. 

It's hardly prime Barcelona we'd be playing. 

[DE.]

All bets are off and the form table can be thrown out the window when it comes to the playoffs. 

Ridiculous really that we haven't even managed to get into them once since the 2012 relegation, despite having multiple seasons with goalscorers in the 20+ range. Even worse when you consider during that time the likes of Hull, Cardiff, Burnley, QPR, Wigan, Ipswich, Reading, Huddersfield, Sheffield Wednesday, Barnsley and Luton have all finished top six - a lot of them more than once. Just a further indictment of Venky's utterly inept ownership. 

Edited February 23, 2023 by DE.

[Exiled_Rover]

8 minutes ago, Sweaty Gussets said:

Luton over a 2 leg semi, and then MIllwall in the final. 

It's hardly prime Barcelona we'd be playing. 

Who's scoring the goals? I'd also argue you're probably playing a Boro / Watford / Norwich in there too.

[roverandout]

2 hours ago, chaddyrovers said:

Adam Wharton is currently injured 

O'Brien is a quality player. Getting him would help improve our playoffs chances 

But without a quality striker you could have Zidane and de bruyne in the team it wouldn't improve the quality of finishing

[Sweaty Gussets]

19 minutes ago, Exiled_Rover said:

Who's scoring the goals? I'd also argue you're probably playing a Boro / Watford / Norwich in there too.

We win a lot of games 1-0. So whoever scores when that happens. 

[SBlue]

34 minutes ago, Exiled_Rover said:

Who's scoring the goals? I'd also argue you're probably playing a Boro / Watford / Norwich in there too.

Nice one. We've played them six times this season. 4 wins, 1 draw, 1 defeat

[Sweaty Gussets]

4 minutes ago, SBlue said:

Nice one. We've played them six times this season. 4 wins, 1 draw, 1 defeat

And the defeat was after going down to ten on 50 mins when 1-1

[roversfan99]

I can't see Adam Wharton playing much this season, he has put in a number of good performances (not just Blackpool, think Boro away, Birmingham home, Hull away, Stoke home off the top of my head) and more than Buckley or Morton but Tomasson doesn't seem to like him.

That being said, @roverandout O'Brien was arguably the best midfielder in the league last season. Think you implied before that you hadn't seen much of him but they are incomparable.

[yankfan]

16 hours ago, roverandout said:

I see no point in carrying on with this now. There's 13 games left. We should just move on

The rate we’re losing players to injury we might need him just to put 11 on the pitch. 

[roverandout]

1 hour ago, roversfan99 said:

I can't see Adam Wharton playing much this season, he has put in a number of good performances (not just Blackpool, think Boro away, Birmingham home, Hull away, Stoke home off the top of my head) and more than Buckley or Morton but Tomasson doesn't seem to like him.

That being said, @roverandout O'Brien was arguably the best midfielder in the league last season. Think you implied before that you hadn't seen much of him but they are incomparable.

I just don't think with the time left he will be worth putting all this effort into getting 

[roversfan99]

10 minutes ago, roverandout said:

I just don't think with the time left he will be worth putting all this effort into getting 

I do get that and I do think that even if he signs, we carry an element of responsibility regarding the failure to sign him from Feb onwards.

That being said, he would be a massive improvement on our current midfielders and we are 4th in the mix for the play offs so still worth pursuing.