v Swansea City (h) - 18/2/23

[Wing Wizard Windy Miller]

1 minute ago, RevidgeBlue said:

Really, based on what?

He doesn't have a single redeeming quality in my eyes. To say he's decent at this level is probably as much of an exaggeration as saying he's the worst player ever to play for the Club.

I'd argue that up to last 18 months, he probably was around champ standard. 

The last 18 months he's been absolutely useless... at any level. 

[ItsRoverZ]

Not starting a fit dack is criminal, not bringing him on after 65 minutes when we need a goal is outright insane 

[Bethnal]

Last twenty minutes have been objectively good football and really effective pressing specifically.

Swansea have not been prepped for the gear shift in this half and if it’s been intentional by JDT, that’s great coaching.

Not perfect, but really encouraging stuff.

[Adam C]

1 minute ago, RevidgeBlue said:

Really, based on what?

He doesn't have a single redeeming quality in my eyes. To say he's decent at this level is probably as much of an exaggeration as saying he's the worst player ever to play for the Club.

It’s really not. I’m not his biggest fan but I take exception to unwarranted vitriol and boring, repetitive posts about how awful he is. No world beater but far from the worst striker we’ve had in the last ten years, never mind the whole Venkys era. I agree that he’s by no means a top 6 striker and we paid over the odds for him but we could be worse off. Imagine we had Hirst, Vale and no Gallagher.  

[Darrenbot]

4 minutes ago, Gavlar Somerset Rover! said:

It’s a complete waste of time bringing in Giles and Thomas to Rovers because as you point out, we have no bugger to get on the end of anything. It’s been that way since Graham left.

They should have got a striker in first as you say theres no point in bringing in a good crosser of the ball when we have noone to get on the end of them

[jim mk2]

Tony’s team going great guns. It’s galling to see Mowbray doing well and I wouldn’t want him back but there’s no doubt we’re a worse outfit this season. Tomasson isn’t an upgrade 

 

[yankfan]

Buckley has been solid. Which represents a massive improvement over Morton. 

[West Yorks Rover]

1 minute ago, jim mk2 said:

Tony’s team going great guns. It’s galling to see Mowbray doing well and I wouldn’t want him back but there’s no doubt we’re a worse outfit this season. Tomasson isn’t an upgrade 

 

Boro winning too now.

[Andy]

6 minutes ago, bluebruce said:

One of the most overpriced strikers we've ever had is a fair debate for him to be entered into. You've still got your Kevin Davies, Ashley Wards, Nathan Blakes and Ciccio Grabbis to compete with though, but they had to play at Premiership level so the comparison wouldn't be quite fair.

To offer some mitigation, we’ve not paid £5m for SG.

Initial fee was £2.5m-£3m, rest being add ons and performance related, much similar to BBD.

[J*B]

Just now, West Yorks Rover said:

Boro winning too now.

Boro are gonna catch Sheff United which is quite incredible 

[bluebruce]

Looks like this is our 'good' half. Need to make this pressure pay soon or we're open to a sucker punch.

[J*B]

Just now, Andy said:

To offer some mitigation, we’ve not paid £5m for SG.

Initial fee was £2.5m-£3m, rest being add ons and performance related, much similar to BBD.

Can’t have paid much in performance add ons. 

[G Somerset Rover]

1 minute ago, J*B said:

Boro are gonna catch Sheff United which is quite incredible 

Wasn’t enthused by Carrick at all when he was linked in the summer. Looks to be a bloody good’un now though.

Edited February 18, 2023 by Gavlar Somerset Rover!

[bluebruce]

Just now, Andy said:

To offer some mitigation, we’ve not paid £5m for SG.

Initial fee was £2.5m-£3m, rest being add ons and performance related, much similar to BBD.

We don't actually know the payment arrangements or actual final fee of any player we sign. You're quoting something you've heard or has been reported, there's nothing from official channels. The fact there's a 500k area of uncertainty on the initial fee shows whoever has heard it doesn't actually know.

Personally I think clubs should have to put all transfer fee breakdowns into the public domain. I hate this 'undisclosed' nonsense, stakeholders deserve to know.

[Dreams of 1995]

Much much better in the second half 

We need a goal here. Draw away, win at home. You follow them rules you’ll get play offs. 

[WacoRover]

When was the last time we scored from a corner?

[booth]

5 minutes ago, jim mk2 said:

Tony’s team going great guns. It’s galling to see Mowbray doing well and I wouldn’t want him back but there’s no doubt we’re a worse outfit this season. Tomasson isn’t an upgrade 

 

Well we're still seeing our forwards miss chances and a shit midfield if that's what you mean.

[moerpho]

A positive and sensible change: Dack for Gallagher

[Darrenbot]

27 games without a draw now it's looking like 5 in a row,what a strange season.

[Wing Wizard Windy Miller]

There just aren't goals in this side. 

[bluebruce]

5 minutes ago, J*B said:

Can’t have paid much in performance add ons. 

Those are usually based on numbers of appearances and goals, not whether fans think he's 'one of the worst ever'. Over 100 appearances and over 20 league goals...he has probably triggered some or most, if that was indeed how the deal was structured. There might be something based on the club's performance though (making the playoffs, getting promoted) and those won't have been touched.

Edited February 18, 2023 by bluebruce

[roverandout]

10 minutes ago, The Hypnotic said:

It’s really not. I’m not his biggest fan but I take exception to unwarranted vitriol and boring, repetitive posts about how awful he is. No world beater but far from the worst striker we’ve had in the last ten years, never mind the whole Venkys era. I agree that he’s by no means a top 6 striker and we paid over the odds for him but we could be worse off. Imagine we had Hirst, Vale and no Gallagher.  

Far from? Haaaa haaaaa

[bluebruce]

3 minutes ago, WacoRover said:

When was the last time we scored from a corner?

Probably the Mulgrew days, and half the time he had to put those in the net directly from the corner...

(Nah not really, I remember Wharton heading one or two in...did he have one earlier this season, I wanna say in the cup against Hartlepool?)

[Dreams of 1995]

Fail to see where the goals come from in this side 

[bluebruce]

1 minute ago, roverandout said:

Far from? Haaaa haaaaa

He gave you a whole list, and your only response was to shift the goalposts again.