Season tickets 2023-24 - what could/should be offered ?

[Darrenbot]

1 hour ago, K-Hod said:

There’s a long time without football.

What would we move on to?

Love Island is back on the telly

[tomphil]

1 hour ago, K-Hod said:

There’s a long time without football.

What would we move on to?

Biscuits ?

[Upside Down]

Given the piss poor sales AGAIN, I'd say that most people agree with us that the tickets are too expensive.

[M_B]

1 hour ago, K-Hod said:

There’s a long time without football.

What would we move on to?

Saints v Wigan on Friday night. 

[only2garners]

1 hour ago, K-Hod said:

There’s a long time without football.

What would we move on to?

Lancashire v Worcestershire today at Blackpool. Excellent game in glorious weather. 

[glen9mullan]

9 hours ago, only2garners said:

The presentation should now be available on the website as a link from the minutes.

Out of interest the free season tickets they give to employee, players etc, are these part of the season ticket numbers.

Could you ask next meeting please.

Of the ones gone how many are.

1. Free.

2. Kids

3. Under 18s

4. Full adult.

5. Seniors.

Also given the £20 club cash has been revoked, why did they fail to mention this when claiming they had maintained last seasons price.

Most use that £20 as part payment of a replica shirt.

Its very stealth tax from where im sitting

 

 

Edited June 7, 2023 by glen9mullan

[tomphil]

2 hours ago, Upside Down said:

Given the piss poor sales AGAIN, I'd say that most people agree with us that the tickets are too expensive.

Some still require proof ....

[Guest]

Season Ticket Estimate

Latest: 8,072 (+3)

Notes:

• The estimate is based upon the total number of saleable seats to home supporters (18,210), minus the amount of unavailable (sold) seats.
• (+xx) represents the difference in season ticket sales from the previous estimate (usually 24 hours).
• 159 seats in block W01 are marked as unavailable (sold), but are not saleable due to being cordoned-off. These are therefore excluded from the season ticket estimate.
• 376 seats for supporters requiring ground-level font-row access are marked as unavailable (sold), but appear to be block-reserved rather than fully sold. These are therefore excluded from the season ticket estimate.
• A seat is marked as unavailable for up to 28 minutes when added to the basket. It is not possible to exclude these from the estimate.

[JHRover]

When Bolton Wanderers (Lge 1) have sold over 14,000 and Preston (below us in the Championship) have sold 13,000 and we are perhaps just past 8,000 it is a failure.

No ifs, no discussion about pricing, no arguments about revenues generated.

It isn't a few hundred here and there. It is almost double what we are managing.

Any CEO of Rovers presiding over such a discrepancy between us and neighbours should be ashamed and as far as i am concerned resign.

The fact Waggott is still here after 5+ years of this and appears to think it is acceptable or even something to be proud of tells me all I need to know about the people owning and running the club and their attitude towards it.

To make matters even worse it seems he is incapable of putting season tickets on sale without a now customary 'thank you' to the owners for their 'generosity' without which we'd presumably have to pay even more.

The evidence down the road shows that this is a lie, that clubs with much poorer owners can outsell us charging much less which proves whatever benefit Venkys bring to the club certainly doesn't extend to season tickets.

[Upside Down]

7 hours ago, tomphil said:

Some still require proof ....

See above. 

[Mattyblue]

15k Bolton and 11k PNE currently.

That Bolton figure for yet another season in the third division is now higher than some of their Premier League seasons (wonder if price has owt to do with it?)

Edited June 8, 2023 by Mattyblue

[Upside Down]

12 minutes ago, Mattyblue said:

15k Bolton and 11k PNE currently.

That Bolton figure for yet another season in the third division is now higher than some of their Premier League seasons (wonder if price has owt to do with it?)

Nothing. Its all to do with whether or not you've got shit fans.

[Sweaty Gussets]

42 minutes ago, Mattyblue said:

15k Bolton and 11k PNE currently.

That Bolton figure for yet another season in the third division is now higher than some of their Premier League seasons (wonder if price has owt to do with it?)

Where's your evidence? 😉

[SIMON GARNERS 194]

We can shout from the Rooftops of every home in Blackburn and beyond....its just no use when nobody at the Club is listening nor gives a toss.

Will we ever be free of these Morons strangling our Club?

Edited June 8, 2023 by SIMON GARNERS 194

[Doogs]

Maybe Rovers fans are just fickle. Look back to the 70s. We have always struggled to increase the gates...

[BigUts]

On 06/06/2023 at 22:50, glen9mullan said:

Regarding yesrterdays email drop,

 

I did catch up with Waggott who stated.

"Its very poor and I have raised it with the head of marketing Fraser Read, it negates all the hard work behind the scenes"

How do you keep getting responses? I'm still waiting for my original email from Feb and my one from a couple of weeks ago to get ANY response from Steven.

[BigUts]

5 minutes ago, Doogs said:

Maybe Rovers fans are just fickle. Look back to the 70s. We have always struggled to increase the gates...

No we haven't. See prior stagnation and then huge uptick around 2010.

[Mattyblue]

11 minutes ago, Doogs said:

Maybe Rovers fans are just fickle. Look back to the 70s. We have always struggled to increase the gates...

As did every other club in the lower leagues in that era.

There is nothing different in the water here, our prices are just double theirs.

Edited June 8, 2023 by Mattyblue

[Hasta]

15 minutes ago, Doogs said:

Maybe Rovers fans are just fickle. Look back to the 70s. We have always struggled to increase the gates...

As @BigUts says, we weren't fickle in 2009 when we got our highest season ticket sales since 1995 purely based on a £100 price drop. 

We'd been in the same division for several years and had just had a relatively mediocre season.

 

Edited June 8, 2023 by Hasta

[cesus]

There must be lots of fans like me, shift worker so naturally miss games but usually attend 10/12 games a year, so spend circa of £250. I would happily spend an extra £50/£70 to buy a season ticket. 

It's quite easy for me to not attend midweek and still see the game on the red button. Surely the club know that!?! As I've said above if season tickets were priced at say £299- £329 I'd happily hand over the cash now and the club need not worry if I attend those blustery February midweek games or not AND they've actually got MORE money annually off me. Surely there are many people in the same position as me.

[Mattyblue]

Course there is and that’s part of the reasons those other clubs have sold so many, as plenty of their fans will be in your  boat, but at their prices they’ll buy one anyway - here it’s a much bigger decision to part with your cash if you know you’ll miss a half dozen games.

[tomphil]

20 minutes ago, Doogs said:

Maybe Rovers fans are just fickle. Look back to the 70s. We have always struggled to increase the gates...

Every club around here is the same so why don't you open your eyes and accept the factual evidence being presented to you.

You only need to do a little research of your own if what people are showing you doesn't sink in.

In other words stop being a tit.

[tomphil]

1 hour ago, Mattyblue said:

15k Bolton and 11k PNE currently.

That Bolton figure for yet another season in the third division is now higher than some of their Premier League seasons (wonder if price has owt to do with it?)

The most painful thing here is that our gates and Bowtons were very similar for years in both Prem and Championship.

They lost 5k home fans overnight after they dropped out of the top league, we lost more for obvious reasons.  

Yet now look at the difference and all that comes on the back of getting rid of useless owners. Under going a complete reset of the whole club and attitude and recognising the only real way to re-engage the town and fanbase is make it a no brainer in terms of price.

All done to the backdrop of lean times on the pitch and several years in the 3rd tier.

They are a shinning example of what can be done when people have faith in the club.

[LeftWinger]

Just doing some calculations based on total revenue if the season ticket prices were a lot lower and we offered free tickets to U12s and the incentive of free season tickets next season if promoted.

I'm assuming we're going to sell around 9,000 tickets this year. The split between adult, senior, young adult, under 18s and under 12s are purely guesses - anyone have any idea what the split is likely to be?

The uplift figures based on the discounts are purely guesswork as well - so any feedback on the likely uplifts is also appreciated.

Prices are done as an average based on the fact there are different price levels for adult, senior and young adult tickets.

If we sell 9,000 tickets and 10% of them are Under 12 - it's only generating £54,000 in sales. Why not give the Under 12 tickets away - increasing the number of younger supporters getting to the games and also making it more accessible for families (meaning more adult tickets sold). For instance - if I wanted to get season tickets for all my family in the Blackburn End it would cost £1,098. Under the alternative pricing above, it would be £658. Much more affordable in the current climate.

I don't think it's unrealistic to expect season ticket sales to increase from circa 9k to 13.5k (look at Bolton and PNE) by dropping adult, senior and young adult prices by £100, knocking almost 60% off the under 18 prices and letting under 12s in for free. Total revenue is actually slightly up. Appreciate you're getting less walk ons during the season and policing costs will be higher - but you're also making more money in food and drink sales on matchday.

[Mattyblue]

End of the day there will be no new ticket policies until we get a new CEO. Any new guy may well be tasked with the very same revenue targets, but there are obviously many ways to skin a cat, so said new broom could decide to go the Bolton/PNE route.

Alas, we just need to grin and bear this commercial shit show until he *finally* fecks off.