Championship 23/24

[JHRover]

Be interesting to see whether Warnock rocks up at Hillsborough or not. Seems that many Sheff Wed fans would have him now knowing he's their best chance of surviving.

I'm sure he'd love it and all the fanfare it would bring, winding people up on both sides of Sheffield.

Would be a no-brainer in their position but their owner is only one step up from Venkys in the clueless stakes so could do anything.

[arbitro]

54 minutes ago, DE. said:

Since Chansiri said he isn't putting any more money into the club, does that mean their next manager has to work for free? 

Or the one he has just sacked doesn't get his contract paid up?

[arbitro]

33 minutes ago, JHRover said:

Be interesting to see whether Warnock rocks up at Hillsborough or not. Seems that many Sheff Wed fans would have him now knowing he's their best chance of surviving.

I'm sure he'd love it and all the fanfare it would bring, winding people up on both sides of Sheffield.

Would be a no-brainer in their position but their owner is only one step up from Venkys in the clueless stakes so could do anything.

And would Chansiri appoint him in some act of revenge on the fans who had the temerity to criticise him. It's ironic really that he wouldn't give Darren Moore a decent pay rise and is now paying up Munoz and his staff.

[JHRover]

32 minutes ago, arbitro said:

And would Chansiri appoint him in some act of revenge on the fans who had the temerity to criticise him. It's ironic really that he wouldn't give Darren Moore a decent pay rise and is now paying up Munoz and his staff.

He seems to have an air of Venky arrogance about him too.

It seems Moore expected a new contract and a healthy pay rise. Not exactly unreasonable given he had a good record over 2 years and won them promotion back to the Championship. But it seems having the audacity to ask for this saw the back of him, but as you say over the medium to long term all it does is end up costing more, both by paying off all the Spaniards, presumably having to pay more than the going rate for a firefighter to come in (with a healthy survival bonus) and if they go down they'll be millions out of pocket.

It's got familiar rings to it to what we've had.

Could have given Lambert some resources to play with, but because he had the audacity to expect backing and reinvestment they hung him out to dry. Could have got Warnock in when it was a no-brainer but the clowns thought they'd be clever and save a few quid. In the end it cost them £10 million+ as we plunged into League One under Coyle. Could have backed JDT with a couple of million but that isn't the 'project' so end result is we slide down the league and he leaves.

Idiots who think they are more intelligent than they really are. What dictators don't like is subordinates making demands of them. They also don't like powerful people beneath them who are respected and admired by the masses. Hence we get yes men and sycophants plodding along doing the dirty work and not rocking the boat whilst telling them how great they are, even if it ends up costing much much more than it would just keeping what works.

 

[JHRover]

I suspect things are going to get worse before they get better.

I look at the teams we are now mixing it with in the bottom third and I suspect upward improvement is more likely at many of those than at Rovers.

Middlesbrough have a solid team and have turned a corner after a poor start.

Stoke are better than their position suggests and I suspect will fire Neil if they continue to struggle. Their owners won't entertain a relegation battle.

Same can be said for Watford. Better than their position suggests and their owners won't hang about if it looks like they aren't going to turn it around.

Both of these clubs will spend to strengthen in January if they need to. They won't make excuses they will do what is needed.

Then there's the bottom 3. Wednesday have made a change and if they get a proven operator like Warnock they'll probably stay up even from their current position. On the flip side they could easily make another poor decision and stay stuck down there.

I don't think QPR will sit back and do nothing. Suspect Ainsworth is on borrowed time and they'll try something different soon if they don't pick up.

I'm not at all advocating getting rid of JDT. I think he is one of the few assets we have here and his departure might be the straw that breaks the camel's back, just pointing out that other clubs will take action to save themselves. We won't. The only chance we are going to have is to hope JDT can sort it out. Forget about January being used to our advantage, I wouldn't waste any time discussing potential signings as we've made our intentions on such fronts perfectly clear in recent years.

[chaddyrovers]

I wouldn't be surprise if Paul Ince or Danny Rohl is appoint at Sheffield Wednesday next manager. 

His decision to not give Moore and his staff a new contract has back fire 

[chaddyrovers]

3 hours ago, JHRover said:

Same can be said for Watford. Better than their position suggests and their owners won't hang about if it looks like they aren't going to turn it around.

They have just given Ismael a new contract on Tuesday

https://x.com/WatfordFC/status/1709273580876222769?s=20

 

[DE.]

2 hours ago, chaddyrovers said:

They have just given Ismael a new contract on Tuesday

https://x.com/WatfordFC/status/1709273580876222769?s=20

 

That's strange, a bit of a 180 from their usual stance of get rid at the first sign of trouble. Maybe they're changing stance, or just don't want to keep throwing away money on sacking and hiring managers and coaching staff.

[roversfan99]

Because of how crazy Chansiri is, people naturally have sided with Moore but we dont know what his wage demands are. I am not convinced that hes a good manager and he may have been asking for silly money, who knows.

One thing I am sure of is that Paul Ince would be a truly awful appointment. He has the best agent and/or lives well off his name as a footballer if he ever gets another job.

Even Neil Warnock would struggle to keep that set of players up, especially now.

[chaddyrovers]

1 hour ago, DE. said:

That's strange, a bit of a 180 from their usual stance of get rid at the first sign of trouble. Maybe they're changing stance, or just don't want to keep throwing away money on sacking and hiring managers and coaching staff.

or they have decided he is the right man and they would to stick by him. 

[roversfan99]

2 hours ago, DE. said:

That's strange, a bit of a 180 from their usual stance of get rid at the first sign of trouble. Maybe they're changing stance, or just don't want to keep throwing away money on sacking and hiring managers and coaching staff.

Definitely considering that they are so low in the table. To not sack him, that makes sense. But a long new deal already doesnt.

[Oldgregg86]

Just seen a horrific refereeing decision in the Birmingham game. Birmingham get a penalty and I have no idea what for. Terrible terrible decision 

[booth]

10 man Sunderland are getting battered at home.

[simongarnerisgod]

red cards all over the shop so far today and a completely wrong penalty decision last night,these refs are getting worse,sack them all and get some foreign ones in

[booth]

16 minutes ago, simongarnerisgod said:

red cards all over the shop so far today and a completely wrong penalty decision last night,these refs are getting worse,sack them all and get some foreign ones in

The ref for Sunderland/Boro was Australian.

Sent the Sunderland lad off for saying something to him. Yet Vardy kept telling the ref to fuck off against us and not even a card. Either send all of them off for swearing at the ref or none.

[chaddyrovers]

12 minutes ago, booth said:

The ref for Sunderland/Boro was Australian.

We had him once refereeing Rovers and he was good up standard ref. Not many of tho around either at this level

[1874]

Rovers are now -2 goal difference and -4 points from corresponding fixtures last season.

No major change

[Hasta]

Just to prove it’s not a BRFCS thing - Preston 3rd in the league.

Preston Forum - Should Ryan Lowe be sacked.

[DE.]

Friday night's result saw Birmingham continue to bounce back from their recent poor run of form, as they beat WBA 3-1 at home to record their second win in a row. Albion had been on a decent little run having not lost in four and won their last two, but this match was a bump back down to Earth - even moreso after today's results as they fall from 5th all the way down to 11th. Birmingham meanwhile creep back into the playoffs in 6th spot, having improved their goals scored and maintaining a fairly solid defence.

Sunderland's recent good form counted for little as they found themselves heavily beaten 4-0 at the Stadium of Light in the Teeside derby. Old Tone watched on as his boyhood club ran rampant, recording their largest ever win against Sunderland. The game was goalless at half time, but a sending off for a second bookable offence (dissention) for Dan Neil gave Boro the impetus to push on in the second half, and did they ever take the initiative. Post-Match Mowbray suggested that 'gesticulating' at the ref should not result in a booking/sending off. Nonetheless, the result doesn't do Sunderland too much immediate harm as they remain in 4th place, although the result has put a bit of a dent in their goal difference - which still stands at a decent +8. Boro fans must feel like they're watching a rerun of last season, as their team storms up the table after a dismal start to the season. It was Boro's fourth win in a row and they now haven't lost in five matches, with their last defeat being to the mighty Rovers. They are now 16th.

Watford's run of defeats came to an end as they battled for a point away to Cardiff, with the match ending one a piece in an evenly contested contest. Despite this Watford are still without a win in five, and have only taken three points from two matches this season. They are now 20th. Cardiff sit in 8th, having picked up two points from the last six available.

Draw specialists Coventry once again found themselves sharing the points, this time at home with a 1-1 draw against Norwich. It's their sixth draw of the season and the highest amount of draws in the division. They'll likely take this point gratefully though, as it was an 88th minute own goal that saved them from a narrow defeat. Coventry remain in 13th and Norwich in 7th. 

Preston's nightmare run of form continued in earnest as Ipswich handed them a 4-2 defeat at Portman Road. It means Preston have now conceded eleven goals in their last three matches, decimating their goal dfference and leaving them on -2. The fact they somehow still remain in third, with a single point from the last twelve available, is a testament to how inconsistent the teams in this league not called Leciester or Ipswich have been and continue to be. Ipswich are now eight points clear of Preston in third, are the top scorers in the division with 25 goals and have won nine of their first eleven matches. It's a start to the season no Ipswich fan would have dreamed possible, but that's the Championship. As teams like Luton and Brentford have shown in recent years, a sensible plan, a good manager and reasonable owners is all you need to have a good shot at going up. Most clubs in the division fail on at least one of these, and often all three, making the division wide open every season. 

Leeds secured their second win in a row with a 2-1 victory over Bristol City at Elland Road. It's their third win in four matches and lifts them to 5th in the table, just a point behind Preston in 3rd. One imagines Leeds will ultimately be the team that is likely to really put pressure on Ipswich, although there's a hefty gap of nine points between the two sides at present. As Rovers fans know all too well though, a gap like that can vanish surprisingly quickly when the team hits a sticky patch. Despite a win last time out, this result means Bristol City have lost three of their last four matches and slip to 14th in the table.

Leicester picked up their tenth win in eleven matches, with a 2-0 home win against Stoke City team who rarely troubled them. The result keeps Leicester top of the division, two points ahead of second placed Ipswich and ten ahead of third placed Preston. It was a sixth win in a row for Leicester, who look set to bounce back to the PL with ease at the first time of asking. For Stoke it's now three defeats in four, and they sink to 21st, two points clear of QPR in 22nd. 

Despite being 2-1 ahead, Hull were unable to secure maximum points at the Den, having to settle for a 2-2 draw against Millwall. Hull's recent poor form, with only a single win in their last five matches, has them falling further down to 9th in the league. Millwall's form remains erratic, and they sit in 15th.

Despite taking an early lead, Plymouth ultimately fell to a 3-1 home defeat against a resurgent Swansea City side. It was the Swans fourth win in a row, and they haven't been defeated in five matches. Their good form has pushed them from the depths of the league into a secure 12th place.  Four points from the last fifteen available has seen Plymouth drop to 18th in the standings.   

Rovers broke out of their recent slump in style as we hammered QPR 4-0 at Loftus Road. The stats make for dismal reading if you're a Rangers fan, and I'm not just talking about this match. One win in twenty home games. Failure to score in 50% of games so far this season. Since Ainsworth took over they've failed to score in 11 out of 25 games and from those 25 games have a goal difference of -28, with just 18 scored and 46 conceded. Basically, QPR are in major trouble and have to be considered massive candidates for the drop unless something changes very quickly. Rovers, so often hospitable to those on horrendous runs of form, were merciless today and piled on the misery in emphatic fashion. It ends a run of four straight defeats for Rovers, lifting us to 17th in the table. A clean sheet also helps our goal difference, taking us from -8 to -4. QPR meanwhile remain second worst attackers in the division with just eight goals scored, and have only collected two points from the last eighteen available. 

Sheffield Wednesday's winless start to the season continued as they drew 0-0 with former boss Darren Moore's Huddersfield at Hillsborough. The result underscores Wednesday's inability to put the ball in the net, as they have still only managed five goals this season and remain the least potent attacking force in the Championship. This result takes them to three points for the season overall, seven behind Stoke in 21st. Huddersfield were similarly toothless up front today, not managing a single shot on target. Moore remains winless since his appointment, with Huddersield having drawn four of their last five matches, losing the other. The result leaves them in 19th.  

Southampton will be hugely disappointed to have been held to a 1-1 draw at St. Mary's by a Rotherham side who picked up their first away point of the season. Despite dominating the match with 22 shots, 10 on target, the Saints were unable to make the pressure count and will be left to rue the chances they missed. Rotherham meanwhile will be thankful to have escaped with a point. The draw leaves Southampton in 10th position, a point behind Birmingham in 6th, whilst Rotherham remain in 23rd with the worst defence in the division and a solitary win to their name after eleven matches. 

Edited October 7, 2023 by DE.

[chaddyrovers]

I wonder if QPR will sack Ainsworth and look to appoint a new manager there? 

1 hour ago, Hasta said:

Just to prove it’s not a BRFCS thing - Preston 3rd in the league.

Preston Forum - Should Ryan Lowe be sacked.

shocking to be honest. No patience from them. If Lowe gets them in playoffs then he has over achieved there

[chaddyrovers]

Sheffield Wednesday set to appoint 34 year old Danny Rohl. He was number 2 at Bayern and Southampton

https://x.com/domhowson/status/1710727162708337008?s=20

Edited October 7, 2023 by chaddyrovers

[USABlue]

On 03/10/2023 at 07:02, DeeCee said:

Reminds me of the old Ribblesdale coaches back in the 70s.

Oh god some rough trips lot's of foggy memories though.

[Ricky]

Birmingham have sacked Eustace. Madness but he was favourite for the Rangers job so wonder if it was a result of asking to speak to them or something. Can’t be on form this season as they are doing well.

Rooney being linked.

[Admiral Nelsen]

7 minutes ago, Ricky said:

Birmingham have sacked Eustace. Madness but he was favourite for the Rangers job so wonder if it was a result of asking to speak to them or something. Can’t be on form this season as they are doing well.

Rooney being linked.

 

It'll be interesting to see how Rooney gets on with a half decent team. Did a good job at Derby and seems to have something about him as a coach beyond just relying on his playing career.

 

Still absolute madness to get rid of Eustace, unless there's more to it. He's got a far better tune out of them than anyone seems to have done for a long, long time. 

[smiller14]

12 minutes ago, Ricky said:

Birmingham have sacked Eustace. Madness but he was favourite for the Rangers job so wonder if it was a result of asking to speak to them or something. Can’t be on form this season as they are doing well.

Rooney being linked.

A baffling decision unless there's more to it. Reminds me of when they got rid of Rowett.