Gregg Broughton

[tomphil]

If Eustace said i want to use the tiny budget by re-signing Mcfadz, bringing in Ruddy and the ageing striker from Brum whilst extending Gallys contract i expect Broughton would be against that.

[tomphil]

46 minutes ago, Gav said:

I know Broughton has had a lot of stick on here, much of it unwarranted in my opinion.

He was brought in at a time of real crisis for the club. Mowbray had left, so had many of the 1st team players, manager after manager turning down the top job, no time to work with the incumbent on a plan for the following season and then he helped pull the JDT rabbit out of the hat, followed by the signature of Sammie/Hyam.

That first season took everyone by surprise, some of the football was a joy to watch and the team looked rejuvenated by JDT and in no small part to the additions brought in by Broughton. Venkys must have panicked as the team looked like making the Championship playoffs, sadly just missing out in the end. 

That summer the owners took centre stage once again, one minute Broughton has a budget, then that is slashed, then slashed again, "free transfers Gregg, work your magic"...... oh yes and "We'll be selling Adam Wharton should a decent bid come in, let JDT know will you" ......any the plans to build on the back of the previous season are scuppered, turmoil behind the scenes, job done once again by these abhorrent owners.

Anyone working under these conditions deserves a medal, money alone wouldn't be enough for me. I wish him well to be honest, he's just another in a long line of people who have been shit on by these owners and as fans many must be asking themselves, is it really worth it anymore? I don't think so until these rats piss off. 

VENKYS OUT - NOTHING ELSE MATTERS

 

 

I'm pretty mixed on him tbh he did some good stuff but also the bit that is actually supposed to be his area of expertise - young players for next to nothing to polish and sell - he flopped very badly.

However after 30 million of sales and more pending he had every right to demand some kind of budget in order to improve on who he could target. And he'd proven he could use a bit of money well even if his cheap young back up recruits were dire.

 

[TheRevAshton]

6 minutes ago, tomphil said:

If Eustace said i want to use the tiny budget by re-signing Mcfadz, bringing in Ruddy and the ageing striker from Brum whilst extending Gallys contract i expect Broughton would be against that.

This is my concern...

I'd expect GB to be fully on board with bringing in good, experience players who aren't too over the hill - but I think it's likely the case that Eustace is just looking at the really old and really cheap options, that nobody else wants... and that's where there's been a clash.

[martonrover]

“Boss John Eustace and Broughton have been aligned on the direction of Rovers but Broughton has been unable to find common ground with the club”.

⬆️From the BBC report on Friday.

Might be incorrect, of course, but I found it interesting, even before today’s speculation re - Broughton and Eustace’s relationship.

[chaddyrovers]

1 hour ago, pedrob2014 said:

I have been told that the disagreement is on what the incomings will be.  allegedly it is Broughton who has wanted to go down the younger players route and wanted to get players that could be polished and sold.  Eustace has come in and has said he wants to add some more experience along with younger players from the academy  and he has won the battle

Thanks for Sharing.

Yes, we need experience players signings plus younger players signings then 2 or 3 up and coming academy players Duru, Gent and Tyjon. 

 

[tomphil]

1 hour ago, TheRevAshton said:

This is my concern...

I'd expect GB to be fully on board with bringing in good, experience players who aren't too over the hill - but I think it's likely the case that Eustace is just looking at the really old and really cheap options, that nobody else wants... and that's where there's been a clash.

This is a very easy gig for managers etc to get their mates in through the door on good contracts we've seen it all before.

Crazy thing is in our current state those 3 i mentioned do actually strengthen the squad but financially we really need to be putting what little money there is to the best possible use, like buying a good forward to replace Sammie !

[DackDackGoose]

Will he be replaced is the question, or back to old model?

[tomphil]

1 hour ago, martonrover said:

“Boss John Eustace and Broughton have been aligned on the direction of Rovers but Broughton has been unable to find common ground with the club”.

⬆️From the BBC report on Friday.

Might be incorrect, of course, but I found it interesting, even before today’s speculation re - Broughton and Eustace’s relationship.

So it's quite likely hes spat his dummy out at the board over sales/reinvestment/lying about Indian funding sorted but it'll be spun by Waggots propaganda machine that it was different views over future signings with the Head Coach.

Meanwhile that B&W poster will pop on to tell us Gregg wanted out and fashioned his own exit so it isn't anybody at the clubs fault whatsoever he's just another bad bad man.

[martonrover]

28 minutes ago, DackDackGoose said:

Will he be replaced is the question, or back to old model?

Well given that Elliott Jackson is reporting that Broughton left at the end of last week, I'm wondering if they hope to announce his replacement at the same time as confirming his exit.

[SIMON GARNERS 194]

Just feels like the Merry Go Round is starting up again.Absolute chancers jostling for position and backstabbing when chance presents.

These people have zero vested interest in our Club other than remuneration,they are not fans,they are the epitome of the self preservation Society...here today gone tomorrow.

Edited May 14 by SIMON GARNERS 194

[Mattyblue]

So now the 'model' is now *not* young players to polish and sell on for a profit?

You see it's why I don't ever take any notice to what the latest 'plan'/'model'/'philosophy' is at BRFC (unlike a certain few posters on here) as before you know it the whole thing has been chucked in a skip and we have a totally new approach under whoever the flavour of the month at the club now is.

There is no plan at this club under these owners, never has been, never will be. It just stumbles on from year to year.

[Crimpshrine]

3 hours ago, pedrob2014 said:

I have been told that the disagreement is on what the incomings will be.  allegedly it is Broughton who has wanted to go down the younger players route and wanted to get players that could be polished and sold.  Eustace has come in and has said he wants to add some more experience along with younger players from the academy  and he has won the battle

No problem adding experience as we have been lacking it for years. I can't see why Broughton would not agree with this.

What worries me is that Waggott now has an appetite for getting involved in player purchases and harking back to his old methods when he was a player agent. Eustace/McFad/Fleck were all Waggott signings and I can see more 'contacts' being approached for one final payday.  

[JHRover]

So we bring in a 'specialist' in academy / youth football in Broughton to oversee and orchestrate an 'academy model' of developing kids through our academy, progressing them to the first team, selling them off for a profit, supposedly with the intention then to reinvest the proceeds of those sales to go again and strengthen the club. 

Sounds good and relatively sensible.

Less than 2 years later we've just raked in over £20 million by selling the two crown jewels of the academy in Ash Phillips and Adam Wharton to Premier League clubs. If anything I think we should be disappointed with that amount of money as I think someone had our pants down on Ash Phillips and Adam Wharton is very soon going to be worth a hell of a lot more than we hurriedly flogged him for.

But anyway, £20 odd million it is. Still a good chunk of money. Not bad at all from 12-18 months of the 'project' given neither of those lads had featured at senior level prior to Broughton's arrival. 

We know there was never any real intention of reinvesting the cash, there never has been, but at least it sounds good talking about the Brentford model and sustainability and FFP.

All the while in season 1 of the 'project' we went within a hair's breadth of Wembley and the play-offs playing some terrific football and integrating numerous youngsters into the XI (or at least giving plenty of opportunities to do so).

Looks to me like the project has actually worked to absolute perfection. Could anyone have expected a better rate of return?

So why is it being changed again?

Answer - they're just making it up as they go along and reacting to the latest noises coming out of India. Essentially they have 'used' people like Broughton and JDT to get them through another couple of years without any scrutiny whilst the owners continue to slash costs and pocked the transfer receipts yet both the above bought into a longer term project and ideals of getting to the PL and developing as a club. 

Never any intention of doing any of it. 

[Exiled_Rover]

28 minutes ago, Crimpshrine said:

No problem adding experience as we have been lacking it for years. I can't see why Broughton would not agree with this.

What worries me is that Waggott now has an appetite for getting involved in player purchases and harking back to his old methods when he was a player agent. Eustace/McFad/Fleck were all Waggott signings and I can see more 'contacts' being approached for one final payday.  

So back to the days of washed up players like Murphy getting a nice retirement fund then. Lovely stuff. 

[Tyrone Shoelaces]

16 minutes ago, JHRover said:

So we bring in a 'specialist' in academy / youth football in Broughton to oversee and orchestrate an 'academy model' of developing kids through our academy, progressing them to the first team, selling them off for a profit, supposedly with the intention then to reinvest the proceeds of those sales to go again and strengthen the club. 

Sounds good and relatively sensible.

Less than 2 years later we've just raked in over £20 million by selling the two crown jewels of the academy in Ash Phillips and Adam Wharton to Premier League clubs. If anything I think we should be disappointed with that amount of money as I think someone had our pants down on Ash Phillips and Adam Wharton is very soon going to be worth a hell of a lot more than we hurriedly flogged him for.

But anyway, £20 odd million it is. Still a good chunk of money. Not bad at all from 12-18 months of the 'project' given neither of those lads had featured at senior level prior to Broughton's arrival. 

We know there was never any real intention of reinvesting the cash, there never has been, but at least it sounds good talking about the Brentford model and sustainability and FFP.

All the while in season 1 of the 'project' we went within a hair's breadth of Wembley and the play-offs playing some terrific football and integrating numerous youngsters into the XI (or at least giving plenty of opportunities to do so).

Looks to me like the project has actually worked to absolute perfection. Could anyone have expected a better rate of return?

So why is it being changed again?

Answer - they're just making it up as they go along and reacting to the latest noises coming out of India. Essentially they have 'used' people like Broughton and JDT to get them through another couple of years without any scrutiny whilst the owners continue to slash costs and pocked the transfer receipts yet both the above bought into a longer term project and ideals of getting to the PL and developing as a club. 

Never any intention of doing any of it. 

If the object of the exercise is to make enough money from players sales to just “keep the lights on “ -  the plan has worked to “ perfection “. As far as I know, ‘ the lights are still on “. 
 

However, if the object of the exercise is to have a successful football team -  just look at the league table.

 

[windymiller7]

So what is the plan? (Saw this the other day, but it kind of reminded me of Rovers and lack of/changing 'plans)

 

[NeilInBristol]

Director of Football Gregg Broughton has also departed, though Rovers are yet to formally announce his exit. It's understood he left the club at the end of last week following talks with the board.

 

 

Just read the above in an LT article.

[Mercer]

From Jackson's LT article:

Sean Kimberley remains at the club as Head of Recruitment. Chief Executive Steve Waggott has previously taken on a hands-on role in negotiating player deals too.

This really scares me.  Whilst I think Broughton had shortcomings in his abilities, I didn't see anything that would lead me to question his integrity, however, I simply have no trust at all in Waggott, not least following the Brockhall debacle.

Edited May 14 by Mercer

[JamieUK]

The disagreement over player ages sounds a load of bollocks to me. It will be the usual, not being willing to stump up the going rate for exceptional young players and instead expecting him to find cheap ones that can't step up - Telalovic.

If they'd have gone in quick for Anel Ahmedhodzic in 2022 and the Norwegian(?) striker last summer we'd be sat on £25m+ worth of assets that cost £7m/£8m.

Lets not forget that last summer we were actively chasing experience and were told Venkys vetoed it.

[Rogerb]

5 hours ago, pedrob2014 said:

  Eustace has come in and has said he wants to add some more experience along with younger players from the academy  and he has won the battle

Adding some more experience was exactly what JDT was asking for last summer 

[ChrisyG]

16 minutes ago, Mercer said:

I didn't see anything that would lead me to question his integrity, however, I simply have no trust at all in Waggott, not least following the Brockhall debacle.

I don't trust anyone who has wonky eyes.

[Exiled_Rover]

17 minutes ago, Mercer said:

From Jackson's LT article:

Sean Kimberley remains at the club as Head of Recruitment. Chief Executive Steve Waggott has previously taken on a hands-on role in negotiating player deals too.

This really scares me.  Whilst I think Broughton had shortcomings in his abilities, I didn't see anything that would lead me to question his integrity, however, I simply have no trust at all in Waggott, not least following the Brockhall debacle.

He should probably take a more hand-on role on the commercial side, 'cos the club is dying on it's arse. 

[Wheelton Blue]

10 minutes ago, Exiled_Rover said:

He should probably take a more hand-on role on the commercial side, 'cos the club is dying on it's arse. 

I'd rather he took a hands-off role, and instead they employed someone with an ounce of commercial capablity.

[NeilInBristol]

48 minutes ago, Mercer said:

From Jackson's LT article:

Sean Kimberley remains at the club as Head of Recruitment. Chief Executive Steve Waggott has previously taken on a hands-on role in negotiating player deals too.

This really scares me.  

How come..?

Sure he can't be that bad... He hand picked the leather seats for the bus...

😉

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[tomphil]

Yeah his hands on role saw BBD, Rothwell, Nyambie and Lenihen all leave for nothing the man is useless but i bet he suddenly becomes unuseles when there is a cut to be had.