We are going down (the pessimism thread)

[Tyrone Shoelaces]

13 minutes ago, martonrover said:

The problem is, a few of that core of players are always likely to be injured at any one time, and the quality of the bench is crucial in modern day football, especially with games coming thick and fast.

That’s what is going to hurt us. We have several players who are regularly injured/ never really 100 match fit.

[Ghost7]

We're struggling to compete in the Championship because of Venky's. Hopefully that is understood by every Rovers fan.

[rickard]

1 hour ago, Ghost7 said:

We're struggling to compete in the Championship because of Venky's. Hopefully that is understood by every Rovers fan.

spoiler alert: it's not understood by every Rovers fan. 😠 

 

There are still people out there to call them good owners. Why? Is it because they do absolutely minimum that can be expected by owners; let the club exist? 

I'll stop now before I get too angry about this, haha!

[Mattyblue]

2 hours ago, Ghost7 said:

We're struggling to compete in the Championship because of Venky's. Hopefully that is understood by every Rovers fan.

It isn’t.

We struggle to compete because of our ‘small gates’ and we are a ‘small club these days’… neither of those things have anything to do with the owners, of course.

[booth]

3 hours ago, Ghost7 said:

We're struggling to compete in the Championship because of Venky's. Hopefully that is understood by every Rovers fan.

Don't look at the Telegraph comments. Some absolute class acts on there singing Venkys/Waggotts praises whilst laying the blame completely with JDT.

[Upside Down]

4 hours ago, booth said:

Don't look at the Telegraph comments. Some absolute class acts on there singing Venkys/Waggotts praises whilst laying the blame completely with JDT.

It's been well documented that a lot of those comments are from very suspicious accounts.

And the rest are just morons.

[philipl]

My worry is two of the 3 in the bottom grouping all season are on fire now.

This could be a 50 points to avoid the drop season.

Certainly Plymouth (and maybe Boro) downwards are in a dog eat dog scrap and we have four dogs in our next four games.

[Mattyblue]

Boro?! They have 44 points already. 13 games to get six points (if it even gets to 50 to survive).

Don’t think they need to be planning their trip to Lincoln just yet.

[philipl]

4 hours ago, Mattyblue said:

Boro?! They have 44 points already. 13 games to get six points (if it even gets to 50 to survive).

Don’t think they need to be planning their trip to Lincoln just yet.

I did put them in brackets but extrapolating current form they will finish on 52 points sandwiched between QPR and Wednesday.

[Groundhog]

I keep flitting between thinking it'll be another season like our relegation to League 1, where the usual 50 points wasn't enough, and a season where it'll be a very low points total. 

Surely Sheff Wed, Hudds, QPR can't keep their recent resurgence in form up, there has to be a downturn in results for those teams soon, law of averages would suggest. 

Likewise with us, we must be due a mini run of our own to see us climb out of the mess. 

There's 12-13 games to go, I can see all the teams getting 3-4 wins each, gonna be tight as a gnat's clasp purse. 

Edit: looking at the fixtures, there's a sequence of weekends where most of the teams at the bottom all play each other. It's bonkers.

Edited February 28 by Groundhog

[joey_big_nose]

I just can't credit relegation at all - Eustace obviously knows what he is doing tactically, we look motivated, we have the leagues top scorer, we have tightened up at the back. 

Any neutral person looking in won't see us as in any serious danger. We should be looking up the table now, trying to get into the top eight of the form table between now and end of the season I would say. That would be about 20 points from the last 36 to get in there, and while it wouldn't get us into the playoffs (probably finish around 8th-10th) it would give us optimism for next season. 

[jim mk2]

4 minutes ago, joey_big_nose said:

I just can't credit relegation at all - Eustace obviously knows what he is doing tactically, we look motivated, we have the leagues top scorer, we have tightened up at the back. 

Any neutral person looking in won't see us as in any serious danger. We should be looking up the table now, trying to get into the top eight of the form table between now and end of the season I would say. That would be about 20 points from the last 36 to get in there, and while it wouldn't get us into the playoffs (probably finish around 8th-10th) it would give us optimism for next season. 

Really? One good game in the Cup and we're now looking at the top 8?? The players put in a massive shift last night but the question has to be asked why they didn't do that in the league (my last game at Birmingham was awful) and whether they can repeat it. Last night will have taken its toll. All the games are difficult from now on - starting at Swansea 

[joey_big_nose]

35 minutes ago, jim mk2 said:

Really? One good game in the Cup and we're now looking at the top 8?? The players put in a massive shift last night but the question has to be asked why they didn't do that in the league (my last game at Birmingham was awful) and whether they can repeat it. Last night will have taken its toll. All the games are difficult from now on - starting at Swansea 

I think the mentality around it is important. We've yo-yo'd from a team who expected to make top six but missed on last day of season, to a team expecting to be in the playoff conversation as recently as November, to a team genuinely concerned about relegation at the end of a terrible run in January. We've now corrected the key issues I think that led to the December and January collapse, and while we need to get the results to prove it, it would be crazy for us to hold onto a mindset that we are going to get relegated. We should be looking up the table not down.

I guess what I am saying is to think that avoiding relegation by a point as a good outcome is not right. We should be expecting a lot more from this manager and group of players. They have the quality to do a lot better than that.

[Groundhog]

41 minutes ago, jim mk2 said:

The players put in a massive shift last night but the question has to be asked why they didn't do that in the league (my last game at Birmingham was awful)

The Birmingham performance is really confusing, I can't get that out of my head. How it's the same team is beyond me. It's fine margins though, Telalovic puts that header away and it's a well grafted point. 

All I can think is that Newcastle weren't that much of a physical threat, and they allowed Moran and Dolan time and space.

[Bbrovers2288]

Nicked points here and there are helpful but it’s three points we need to get us safe, quite simply we need at least 2 wins in our next 3

[ABBEY]

Can't see us getting out of this .

 

Edited March 2 by ABBEY

[G Somerset Rover]

I’ve always thought we’d be doomed next season. Kudos to our lovely owners who look like they’re going to in fact manage it this season. Some achievement.

[jim mk2]

There always one team that drops like a stone from mid-table in the second half of the season. Looks like it's us this year

And I said after the last 2 away games I attended at West Brom and Brum that we looked a relegation side

Nothing has changed

Edited March 2 by jim mk2

[sharpysharps86]

For the first time this season I genuinely think we're going down. Never thought it'd come to it this season but the way we've just failed continuously to win matches against teams below or around us, combined with having such a weak defence....this team are goners. Teams around us all fighting for their lives and Rovers players turn up with that first 20 - 30 mins today....utterly woeful.

Plenty of fight in 'em for an FA cup game against a premier league side, but not in a crucial relegation 6 pointer.

League One here we come.

[RTM08]

Playing staff has been gutted, promising manager not backed and replaced by a happy clapping cheerleader - we're done.

This time we will not be coming back either.

[DE.]

15 minutes ago, G Somerset Rover said:

I’ve always thought we’d be doomed next season. Kudos to our lovely owners who look like they’re going to in fact manage it this season. Some achievement.

Yeah, up until around a month ago I figured we'd scrape enough points to survive this season and then drop the next.

I think there's a high chance now that we go down this season. Looking at our run in things look bleak. 

[Mattyblue]

Have to pick up wins against Millwall and Plymouth (or 4 points at least), as I certainly can’t see where many more are coming from after that - can’t see the four points either considering we’ve one win in fourteen.

One of the biggest weeks for many years coming up… yet the people who actually own the club couldn’t give a flying fuck about it.

Edited March 2 by Mattyblue

[Norbert Rassragr]

This club is dead. It is finished. There is no chance of anything positive happening unless the Raos sell the club, and since that's never going to happen......

All the players with the exception of Sammy are bottle jobs. 

[broadsword]

Jesus, should be looking up the table, top eight of form teams?! Shite slight, We've just lost (again) and we're a point off the drop.

I did say before, if we fall into the drop zone, we won't be able to get out. Well we're real close now.

Stoke apparently close to appointing pulis

[simongarnerisgod]

19 minutes ago, Norbert Rassragr said:

This club is dead. It is finished. There is no chance of anything positive happening unless the Raos sell the club, and since that's never going to happen......

All the players with the exception of Sammy are bottle jobs. 

scott wharton and mcfadzean excepted,you are right,they are