England - Thomas Tuchel then…

[RTM08]

2 minutes ago, rock steady said:

In terms of who goes first it can't really be any fairer than 50/50 can it? 

When I watch back some shootouts it's amazing how far the keepers came off their lines which they wouldn't get away with now. 

But I do agree that the balance has swung a bit far in favour of the taker, with how they now do the feints in the run up.

How to address it though? Would you allow keepers to move off the line? 

Could potentially alternate the takers to reduce the advantage and swing the pressure a bit to even it out. I know it was trialled in some places but I'm unsure what the conclusions were. 

For the pens themselves - keepers have to stay on the lines as they do now, outfielders have to run in one motion and just kick the ball. Seems the fairest way to me. No funny business, just a one on one. Outfielder should score more often than not anyway.

[Darrenbot]

9 minutes ago, Forever Blue said:

Totally agree. People think we’re Brazil 1970.

We’re getting to semi finals consistently now. This is unheard of for England in 100 years of major tournament football. 

Wait until we lose and Roverandout will be back to saying Southgate is shit,get him out. 

[Polky]

 

Scott & Adam Wharton with a fan 😂

[Darrenbot]

Turkey holding on here atm,the Dutch getting stronger as the game goes on.

[Darrenbot]

as i was saying

 

[Exiled_Rover]

6 minutes ago, Polky said:

 

Scott & Adam Wharton with a fan 😂

Who's that twat on the end?

[RTM08]

Honestly, considering how insipid England are going forwards I can see them seriously struggling against either of these teams.

[London blue]

Oof, if the Turks could defend...

[Darrenbot]

Just now, Exiled_Rover said:

Who's that twat on the end?

In the stands is where he should be next match while Toney or Watkins start.

[Exiled_Rover]

Just now, RTM08 said:

Honestly, considering how insipid England are going forwards I can see them seriously struggling against either of these teams.

We'd beat Turkey quite comfortably. We won't beat the Netherlands unless we seriously up our game.

[Exiled_Rover]

This Yank rules lawyer is awful - never goes against the on-field decision.

That's a straight red.

[roverandout]

15 minutes ago, Darrenbot said:

Wait until we lose and Roverandout will be back to saying Southgate is shit,get him out. 

Probably 

[RTM08]

Just now, Exiled_Rover said:

We'd beat Turkey quite comfortably. We won't beat the Netherlands unless we seriously up our game.

We create absolutely nothing and Turkey attack better than any team we've faced. I've seen nothing to say we could beat anyone comfortably. But I agree, the Dutch are a level above what we've seen.

[simongarnerisgod]

Just now, Exiled_Rover said:

We'd beat Turkey quite comfortably. We won't beat the Netherlands unless we seriously up our game.

dutch move the ball quickly and have width,the polar opposite to us which should make for an interesting game,they are excellent in defence as well

[roverandout]

We will lose v Holland 

[wilsdenrover]

25 minutes ago, rock steady said:

In terms of who goes first it can't really be any fairer than 50/50 can it? 

When I watch back some shootouts it's amazing how far the keepers came off their lines which they wouldn't get away with now. 

But I do agree that the balance has swung a bit far in favour of the taker, with how they now do the feints in the run up.

How to address it though? Would you allow keepers to move off the line? 

Ban the feint 

[Giant]

1 minute ago, roverandout said:

We will lose v Holland 

Superfan No.1 was accusing everybody of being negative a few posts back.

[Darrenbot]

3 minutes ago, roverandout said:

Probably 

i like your honesty 😀

[Forever Blue]

That’s not a vintage Dutch team by any means. 
 

I think it will be another even contest if we play them.

Edited July 6 by Forever Blue

[Silas]

12 minutes ago, Exiled_Rover said:

Who's that twat on the end?

An Adam Wharton super fan.

And he appears to have won a bag in the meat raffle. 

[roverandout]

5 minutes ago, Giant said:

Superfan No.1 was accusing everybody of being negative a few posts back.

Yeah but I'm also an England fan so expect the worst

[London blue]

I'm not overly impressed by the Dutch, I think turkey have bottled this.

Granted we'll need to improve again but they're beatable.

What a save Verbruggen!

[wilsdenrover]

4 minutes ago, Forever Blue said:

That’s not a vintage Dutch team by any means. 
 

I think it will be another even contest if we play them.

We’ll drag them down to our level.

 

[Darrenbot]

Turkey throwing everything forward,they may be going out but they've been the most entertaining team in this tournament

[Giant]

2 minutes ago, roverandout said:

Yeah but I'm also an England fan so expect the worst

As are most on this message board, it’s part of the DNA.