v QPR (h) - 28/09/24

[roversfan99]

3 hours ago, Forever Blue said:

Well you would if you wanted someone to drift inside and open up the wing for the attacking fullback. There’s a bit more to it than just playing a left footed wide player on the left. 

I never suggested playing a left footer, I suggested Weimann who himself would drift inside. Not a natural wide man himself but not as unfamiliar with starting from that area.

[chaddyrovers]

28 minutes ago, roversfan99 said:

I never suggested playing a left footer, I suggested Weimann who himself would drift inside. Not a natural wide man himself but not as unfamiliar with starting from that area.

With Pickering coming in at the left back surely you want to play Hedges to give you that width with Brittain coming in at right back providing the width from Right back with Dolan moving inside. 

That is what my team selection was based on 

[roversfan99]

I wouldnt want Hedges to play, no. Nor Dolan on the right.

[rigger]

I would suggest playing the best players in their best positions. If it means benching someone from a certain position, because we have a better player for that position, so be it.

[M_B]

Don't really understand the clamour to drop Dolan. He's been instrumental in an excellent start to the season. There's nobody better at setting the tempo, I'd be very surprised if Eustace doesn't start him on Saturday. 

[Forever Blue]

8 minutes ago, M_B said:

Don't really understand the clamour to drop Dolan. He's been instrumental in an excellent start to the season. There's nobody better at setting the tempo, I'd be very surprised if Eustace doesn't start him on Saturday. 

Yep, he was awful yesterday but he’s been good in our home games this season. 

[rigger]

10 minutes ago, M_B said:

Don't really understand the clamour to drop Dolan. He's been instrumental in an excellent start to the season. There's nobody better at setting the tempo, I'd be very surprised if Eustace doesn't start him on Saturday. 

Because Dolan has a record of inconsistency and was very poor against Preston.

 

[joey_big_nose]

I think playing both Carter and Pickering as full backs in a back four will be a problem personally... neither provide the outlet needed... So I would maybe consider moving to the below. Brittain has been preferred to JRC at right back but if JRC is properly fit Id like to see him have another shot.

                            Pears

JRC/Britain    Carter     Hyam    Pickering

                    Travis      Tronstad

          Wiemann  Dolan   Hedges

                           Gueye

I'd think about going to a back 3 as it suits our players better imo, but it's hard to justify when our defensive record has been so good. 

[steelcityblue]

Eustace likes to have one full back free to move forward and the other moving in to make a back 3 when we have the ball. Was Brittain initially and then Beck on the other side for the last two games. With Pickering back I suspect he’ll go for Brittain rather than Carter at right back. Which for me means Batth would miss out in the back four. Also means that the  winger that drops in would be on the right side where JRC was playing in the first few games. I think Weimann could do that well but it might be Hedges whom he seems to like. In any event we need an improvement on the last match in terms of creativity. Maybe he’ll do something completely different. At least he’s shown he will change something that isn’t working…a concept that JDT struggled with and we haven’t had a mad Mowbrayesque detour like a central midfielder as a false nine either. I think the guy works stuff out pretty quickly and I’m interested to see what he chooses to do. I’m developing some faith in him. He seems to fit this team and our club right now and it’s hard to argue with results so far this season. 

[chaddyrovers]

2 hours ago, roversfan99 said:

I wouldnt want Hedges to play, no. Nor Dolan on the right.

Why? Given how Eustace plays, those 2 would give us that balance on the pitch

[roversfan99]

6 minutes ago, chaddyrovers said:

Why? Given how Eustace plays, those 2 would give us that balance on the pitch

To be honest, I am not convinced that Eustace himself is overly sure who he fancies on either side. He tried JRC, and since he cant get off the bench. He tried Hedges off the left, he was as ineffective as he is on the right so he has since been moved back. Clearly doesnt fancy Sigurdsson, and has tried Baker drifting in from the left which again hasnt worked.

We badly needed to overhaul our wide options in the summer, and one failing IMO of our business was that we only managed to sign one who is a natural out there. 

Hedges 9 times out of 10 struggles to impact on games. And you have suggested Dolan where he doesnt play. Cozier Duberry is the obvious choice for me, I would go with Weimann on the other side.

[Upside Down]

Pears has had a couple of decent games recently, he's well overdue to throw one into his own net.

[tomphil]

21 minutes ago, Upside Down said:

Pears has had a couple of decent games recently, he's well overdue to throw one into his own net.

Hold onto the hope hes turned a corner it can happen 🤞

Nothing but a novice when he palmed it in at Wigan and last season everyone had the collywobbles at some point after JDTs style had been drilled into them.

I'd have strung him up by the gonads after that but he should have learnt from it and may never do it again.

[Paul Mani]

10 hours ago, JamieUK said:

I don't think any of Carter, Hyam or Batth can be dropped. Given Pickering will come in it's a very defensive backline so tactics will need to change with neither full back likely to be as attacking as Britain or Beck have been. For me:

Pears

Carter, Hyam, Batth, Pickering

Travis Tronstad

ACD Cantwell Sigurdsson

Gueye

You make a good point about Carter, Batth and Hyam being ‘undroppable’ after two clean sheets, especially when you consider QPR’s physical presence.

Maybe he will start with your back four and see if Carter (who’s pretty good going forwards) or Pickering can be an attacking outlet out wide.

I can’t see Cantwell starting, but I do think it would be good to freshen up those front four positions..eg

ACD.    Dolan.    Siggy

            Gueye

 

[chaddyrovers]

7 hours ago, roversfan99 said:

To be honest, I am not convinced that Eustace himself is overly sure who he fancies on either side. He tried JRC, and since he cant get off the bench. He tried Hedges off the left, he was as ineffective as he is on the right so he has since been moved back. Clearly doesnt fancy Sigurdsson, and has tried Baker drifting in from the left which again hasnt worked.

We badly needed to overhaul our wide options in the summer, and one failing IMO of our business was that we only managed to sign one who is a natural out there. 

Hedges 9 times out of 10 struggles to impact on games. And you have suggested Dolan where he doesnt play. Cozier Duberry is the obvious choice for me, I would go with Weimann on the other side.

Surely his team selection will be based on form, tactics depending who the full backs, whether we play 2 strikers or not and the opposition not like yourself who seems to be suggesting a pecking order system..

Dolan started playing for Rovers as right winger. Disagree on Hedges

[dingles staying down 4ever]

3 hours ago, chaddyrovers said:

Surely his team selection will be based on form, tactics depending who the full backs, whether we play 2 strikers or not and the opposition not like yourself who seems to be suggesting a pecking order system..

Dolan started playing for Rovers as right winger. Disagree on Hedges

I agree that selection should be based on tactics and form but not the opposition as I think you should set up to your strengths and not to nulify the opposition. When was the last time we started with two strikers, genuine question?

Colin Hendry started his life as a striker but it is clear that his best position was centre half so I dont get your point that because Dolan started his Rovers career as a Right Winger he can be utilised there. I would argue there is a case for both Hedges and Dolan if you are going to play inverted with the wide men cutting in and shooting or for Dolan if you want to apply the high press as he will do the closing down playing centrally. 

Edited September 24 by dingles staying down 4ever

[ruggles1995]

Score draw or a 3-1 victory is my prediction for Saturday. 

My predicted JE 11:
Pears
Brittain carter Hyam Pickering 
tronstad trav
 Weimann   Dolan Dubbery
  Gueye

Not sure we need 3 CBS on the pitch for a home match even though we have had 2 clean sheets, I thinks Sundays poor attacking display will give him licence to change it a bit. With Pickering back after a bit of time out, you would think he would give him some legs in front of him to help him out, so I reckon Dubbery might get a starting debut. 
 

[Lancaster Rover]

I often think Hedges gets in the team for his work out of possession and ability to retain shape/occupy defenders by his positioning. 

[Exiled_Rover]

So I've just read that Beck has got a 3 game ban. Surely not?

[Exiled_Rover]

8 hours ago, Lancaster Rover said:

I often think Hedges gets in the team for his work out of possession and ability to retain shape/occupy defenders by his positioning. 

He gets into the team because he's a good athlete and a good footballer (touch / vision / reading of the game / work rate) - his end product is just diabolical. 

[simongarnerisgod]

Just now, Exiled_Rover said:

So I've just read that Beck has got a 3 game ban. Surely not?

yep,count dracula will looking at a 10 game ban i think

what is it with preston players,darnell fisher was caught sticking his hand down a sheff wed players shorts a few seasons ago,now this rabid specimen bites someone🤕

[Exiled_Rover]

On 23/09/2024 at 13:24, Forever Blue said:

He can play from the left in the role Eustace wants him to play. You keep making the mistake of thinking he is being played as a traditional wide mid/winger. He isn’t.

I think he's very much a CM doing a job out wide until players get match fit. 

[Exiled_Rover]

Just now, simongarnerisgod said:

yep,count dracula will looking at a 10 game ban i think

what is it with preston players,darnell fisher was caught sticking his hand down a sheff wed players shorts a few seasons ago,now this rabid specimen bites someone🤕

So what does Greenwood get then? 6 games?

[rigger]

5 minutes ago, Exiled_Rover said:

So I've just read that Beck has got a 3 game ban. Surely not?

Violent conduct = 3 match ban, I believe, I may be wrong.?

[rigger]

1 minute ago, Exiled_Rover said:

So what does Greenwood get then? 6 games?

I would think 3 matches as well.