January Transfer window

[simongarnerisgod]

11 minutes ago, J*B said:

I think I'd give serious thought towards a Ross Stewart gamble in January. He's been out ages and is on 20K / week at Southampton, but I wonder if they'd be open to a loan, he's clearly not going to be able to play for them. If we could get him fit he's proven he can lead the line at this level.

snapped his achilles when at sunderland and has never been the same player since,no idea why southampton bought him

[KentExile]

8 minutes ago, islander200 said:

He wouldn't get minutes at those clubs even  Boro he won't play ahead of Latth or Conway and even if you put him as a wide forward they are stocked there too with Doak etc 

Villa will be looking for a team where he will play most weeks to get him in the shop window to be sold in the summer.He has done well lower down and looks a talent but  il be shocked if he joins one of them

He is more an inside forward/second sriker than a central striker, could see him wide left for Boro, where he has played mostly for Stockport, Doak plays on the right

The only times he has been central striker, is in a 2 up front, cant see him working up front by himself as a lone striker

Edited December 19 by KentExile

[islander200]

3 minutes ago, KentExile said:

He is more an inside forward/second sriker than a central striker, could see him wide left for Boro

The only times he has been central are in a 2 up front, cant see him working up front by himself

Their first choice front 4 would probably be 

   Doak.      Azaz.    McGree 

                   Lath 

And then Conway who they paid 5 mil for on the bench time will tell but surely minutes is going to be Villas main concern. 

 

[KentExile]

24 minutes ago, islander200 said:

Their first choice front 4 would probably be 

   Doak.      Azaz.    McGree 

                   Lath 

And then Conway who they paid 5 mil for on the bench time will tell but surely minutes is going to be Villas main concern. 

 

As I said, I could see him on the left for Boro, ahead of McGree who rarely seems to play many more than 20 games in a season anyway,

15, 24, , 43, 22 (games in each of the last 4 years) & 13 so far this season

https://www.transfermarkt.co.uk/riley-mcgree/leistungsdatendetails/spieler/428061/plus/0?saison=&verein=&liga=&wettbewerb=GB2&pos=&trainer_id=

 

Incidentally, I could also see him on the left for Sheff Utd, who could then move Hamer back inside.  or Sunderland (if Mundle and Watson are out for any length of time)

Leeds, I agree with you, are probably too strong in wide areas for Villa to consider loaning him to them

Edited December 19 by KentExile

[Emerald Isle Rover]

23 minutes ago, KentExile said:

As I said, I could see him on the left for Boro, ahead of McGree who rarely seems to play many more than 20 games in a season anyway,

15, 24, , 43, 22 (games in each of the last 4 years) & 13 so far this season

https://www.transfermarkt.co.uk/riley-mcgree/leistungsdatendetails/spieler/428061/plus/0?saison=&verein=&liga=&wettbewerb=GB2&pos=&trainer_id=

 

Incidentally, I could also see him on the left for Sheff Utd, who could then move Hamer back inside.  or Sunderland (if Mundle and Watson are out for any length of time)

Leeds, I agree with you, are probably too strong in wide areas for Villa to consider loaning him to them

Sheff u will be looking bbd on the left 

[KentExile]

3 minutes ago, Emerald Isle Rover said:

Sheff u will be looking bbd on the left 

Possibly, maybe even probably, but now that Southampton will have a new manager in place, it is not certain

Edited December 19 by KentExile

[riverholmes]

Watching Liverpool’s left back situation with some concern re. Beck. They seem to have played Gomez in the Carabao Cup, with Endo, normally a midfielder, at CB. Tsimikas came off the bench. Robertson meanwhile has been indifferent lately.

It seems possible they’ll bring in a new signing at left back in Jan, but also possible they’ll consider recalls. As well as Beck, I think they have another left back, Scanlon, who’s less experienced.

Not much Rovers can do, but will need a replacement if he does go back. 

[Ricky]

I came on to suggest Bamford as an out of form option but I’ve read the last posts and given myself a slap. 

[47er]

40 minutes ago, riverholmes said:

Watching Liverpool’s left back situation with some concern re. Beck. They seem to have played Gomez in the Carabao Cup, with Endo, normally a midfielder, at CB. Tsimikas came off the bench. Robertson meanwhile has been indifferent lately.

It seems possible they’ll bring in a new signing at left back in Jan, but also possible they’ll consider recalls. As well as Beck, I think they have another left back, Scanlon, who’s less experienced.

Not much Rovers can do, but will need a replacement if he does go back. 

Beck is a key figure for us now. Will go on to great things I imagine.

We should be desperate to keep him for what we hope is our promotion drive.

[RevidgeBlue]

Unless he's being very crafty and keeping his cards close to his chest, it doesn't sound from the latest LT article as though Eustace has the first idea what is going on re: any potential January business or even if there'll be any business at all.

Pretty poor if that's the case and especially bearing in mind how well the manager has done to date, we should have specified targets in mind and be  going all out to get them, instead it's probably a case of "See if you can find me a no.9 and a left winger for a couple of sweet wrappers and a half eaten Mars Bar."

[47er]

I just read the LT article and I agree it doesn't sound promising.

He's clearly bemoaning the loss of John Park and annoyed there's been no replacement and does't seem to know what's going on.

Only at Ewood you'd think.

[Exiled_Rover]

2 hours ago, riverholmes said:

Watching Liverpool’s left back situation with some concern re. Beck. They seem to have played Gomez in the Carabao Cup, with Endo, normally a midfielder, at CB. Tsimikas came off the bench. Robertson meanwhile has been indifferent lately.

It seems possible they’ll bring in a new signing at left back in Jan, but also possible they’ll consider recalls. As well as Beck, I think they have another left back, Scanlon, who’s less experienced.

Not much Rovers can do, but will need a replacement if he does go back. 

They were willing to let Beck go for £3-4m (I forget which without looking up the article) in the summer to Celtic. I don't think they're anywhere near as high on him as we are.

[philipl]

Nobody seems to have clocked that a Hedges contract renewal creates a saleable asset.

He might not be good enough for us but he's better than 50% of equivalent players in the Championship.

If we sign the two players Swag will now be vilified for if we don't get, I expect Dolan will be sold at the end of the window.

[Paul Mani]

5 hours ago, 47er said:

I just read the LT article and I agree it doesn't sound promising.

He's clearly bemoaning the loss of John Park and annoyed there's been no replacement and does't seem to know what's going on.

Only at Ewood you'd think.

I didn’t read it like that. Though I think it’s always prudent not to read too much into articles which quote interviews as the way written form is constructed, including the words used to contextualise quotes can often be read 10x different ways.

FYI - I read it as - the club know what they need, quality over quantity to improve a couple of key positions, rabbits outta the hat stuff (think Cantwell) it’s upto them whether they do loans, or buy and that will come down to budget. Then it looks like JE was asked about Park, his job role and replacement, to which he’s answered honestly. When you put ot all together into a few hundred words, it sounds anxious..

I would like to watch the full interview.

Edited December 20 by Paul Mani

[K-Hod]

1 hour ago, philipl said:

Nobody seems to have clocked that a Hedges contract renewal creates a saleable asset.

He might not be good enough for us but he's better than 50% of equivalent players in the Championship.

If we sign the two players Swag will now be vilified for if we don't get, I expect Dolan will be sold at the end of the window.

Probably because saleable assets need buyers.

[Ossydave]

3 hours ago, philipl said:

 

He might not be good enough for us but he's better than 50% of equivalent players in the Championship.

 

Is he?

I can’t imagine fans of many other teams have left a game against us saying “blimey that Hedges looks like a real player, we would do with him”.

No idea what sort of wages he’s on but I wouldn’t be increasing them much if offering a new contract. 

[Mattyblue]

‘Better than 50% of equivalent players in the Championship’. Typical Phil throw away statement, that’s based on what exactly?

 

[RevidgeBlue]

4 hours ago, philipl said:

Nobody seems to have clocked that a Hedges contract renewal creates a saleable asset.

He might not be good enough for us but he's better than 50% of equivalent players in the Championship.

If we sign the two players Swag will now be vilified for if we don't get, I expect Dolan will be sold at the end of the window.

We only paid £200k for him (at which price I still think we had our pants pulled down) Must be worth even less now.

Are you saying we should give him a new contract so if necessary  we can sell him for about £100k ?

Edited December 20 by RevidgeBlue

[roversfan99]

4 hours ago, philipl said:

Nobody seems to have clocked that a Hedges contract renewal creates a saleable asset.

He might not be good enough for us but he's better than 50% of equivalent players in the Championship.

If we sign the two players Swag will now be vilified for if we don't get, I expect Dolan will be sold at the end of the window.

He definitely isnt better than 50% of equivalent players, he rarely ever contributes going forward, has 7 goals in 4 seasons and is less effective for us in comparison to a left back.

How is he a sellable asset? He will be 30 next summer, has had 2 bad (the same) injuries and as mentioned seldom offers an attacking threat. How much do you think he is worth?

[KentExile]

So long as Hedges basic wage isn't too high, I have no issue with renewing his contract and having him as a squad player.  Beck will not be here next season (unless Rovers manage promotion in which case we may be able to have him back on loan), which already leaves us needing to find someone to play on the left side (at either left wing or left back, I personally like Pickering at left back and Beck further forwards), so re-signing Hedges allows us to theoretically concentrate our search on someone who will go into the first 11.  

For all the talk of injury issues, he has played 98 first team games for Rovers in under 3 years since he signed (albeit boosted by a near ever present season in JDTs first year).  But he has also been near ever present this year so far too.  His injury issues were confined to last season)

As a squad player, Hedges is useful, he is versatile, does not shirk defensive duties, puts in a shift, and is capable of temporarily plugging a gap in the side in case of injury/suspension/late in the game when we are trying to keep things tight.

Edited December 20 by KentExile

[roversfan99]

The biggest compliment that anyone seems to be able to give him is that he is useful, tries hard and gives decent cover. So why do we need to offer him an extended contract when his current one with the extension should we choose to activate it already keeps him until he is 31?

[KentExile]

48 minutes ago, roversfan99 said:

The biggest compliment that anyone seems to be able to give him is that he is useful, tries hard and gives decent cover. So why do we need to offer him an extended contract when his current one with the extension should we choose to activate it already keeps him until he is 31?

If it was me offering the extension, it would be an attempt to reduce his basic salary, but bump his performance related clauses for appearances/goals/assists etc, to try to coax more consistency from him in regard to goal contributions whilst also negating any potential fall off in availability due to age/future injuries

Edited December 20 by KentExile

[chaddyrovers]

27 minutes ago, roversfan99 said:

The biggest compliment that anyone seems to be able to give him is that he is useful, tries hard and gives decent cover. So why do we need to offer him an extended contract when his current one with the extension should we choose to activate it already keeps him until he is 31?

Hedges is a good squad player and someone who Eustace trusted. He has been every presence this season. 

We can't offer a 2 year contract extension as a squad player. 

So what is your problem with him? JDT and Eustace clearly always rated him. 

[RevidgeBlue]

1 minute ago, chaddyrovers said:

Hedges is a good squad player and someone who Eustace trusted. He has been every presence this season. 

We can't offer a 2 year contract extension as a squad player. 

So what is your problem with him? JDT and Eustace clearly always rated him. 

He's nowhere near the standard required Chaddy. Either as a first choice or squad member.

I know Dolan isn't everyone's cup of tea but we'd be far better served binning off Hedges and offering the wages saved to him.

[chaddyrovers]

Just now, RevidgeBlue said:

He's nowhere near the standard required Chaddy. Either as a first choice or squad member.

I know Dolan isn't everyone's cup of tea but we'd be far better served binning off Hedges and offering the wages saved to him.

We won't agree on Hedges. I rated him. Good player for me. You won't agree.